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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:41 PM ET
Agreed, good 2nd pair guy, works well with Schenn. The problem with the Flyers defensively isnt the D so much, all 6 are solid, capable NHL dmen. The problems often stem from the forwards. When the forwards backcheck diligently and keep the gaps short, the Flyers D looks fine. When they don't the D struggles.

Would it be nice to have a Suter/Weber top pair? Sure, but how far did Nashville ever go with those two? If the forwards buy into and properly execute Berube's system, the D will be fine.

- BiggE


Well said.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:43 PM ET
Anthony Petrielli ‏@APetrielli 4m

Commenter on MLHS says Philly Sports Radio 94WIP says Philly has 3 offers for Lecalvier: Upshall from FLA, Gleason from TOR, picks from DAL.

- mochoson

Go with the Dallas offer.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:44 PM ET
Anthony Petrielli ‏@APetrielli 4m

Commenter on MLHS says Philly Sports Radio 94WIP says Philly has 3 offers for Lecalvier: Upshall from FLA, Gleason from TOR, picks from DAL.

- mochoson


Love to hear picks from Dallas.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:44 PM ET
Anthony Petrielli ‏@APetrielli 4m

Commenter on MLHS says Philly Sports Radio 94WIP says Philly has 3 offers for Lecalvier: Upshall from FLA, Gleason from TOR, picks from DAL.

- mochoson



What are the picks? That's what i'm leaning towards even without knowing what they are.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:44 PM ET
Go with the Dallas offer.
- SuperSchennBros


You have to assume that that one involves eating the most salary.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:44 PM ET
Anthony Petrielli ‏@APetrielli 4m

Commenter on MLHS says Philly Sports Radio 94WIP says Philly has 3 offers for Lecalvier: Upshall from FLA, Gleason from TOR, picks from DAL.

- mochoson


Take the picks from Dallas.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:45 PM ET
If the Flyers truly have interest in Ehrhoff. The options are simple to fit him into the Cap for the season. If they're able to trade Lecavalier, that helps. Also have the option to trade Grossmann or L. Schenn. The Flyers have options and some cap flexibility.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:45 PM ET
Anthony Petrielli ‏@APetrielli 4m

Commenter on MLHS says Philly Sports Radio 94WIP says Philly has 3 offers for Lecalvier: Upshall from FLA, Gleason from TOR, picks from DAL.

- mochoson


Upshall one year 3.5 mill
Gleason two years 4 mil x 2 years
Picks- the future

The buster is the salary retention- oh to be a cyber fly on the wall
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:45 PM ET
Take the picks from Dallas.
- ob18

Unless it involves eating a lot of money. Rather have one year of Upshall than picks & 4 years of dead space
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:47 PM ET
Unless it involves eating a lot of money. Rather have one year of Upshall than picks & 4 years of dead space
- Jsaquella


True, much is known......should explore them all and take the best one.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:47 PM ET
Unless it involves eating a lot of money. Rather have one year of Upshall than picks & 4 years of dead space
- Jsaquella


I agree. I would then move Grossman for picks and sign a cheaper replacement and back-up goalie in either scenario.

I dont want Upshall if we have to eat salary too.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:49 PM ET
Go with the Dallas offer.
- SuperSchennBros


Need to what if any % of VLs contract we have to eat before I pick one of those deals

If Dallas is offering a 3rd, but asking us to eat 2 million per year for the next 4 years while Fla is offering Upshall straight up while absorbing VLs whole contract, then I take the Florida deal. They can just buy out Upshall and only have to carry a cap hit of 1.1 million for 2 years, freeing up 3.4 million and giving them some financial breathing room.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:49 PM ET
True, much is known......should explore them all and take the best one.
- ob18


I'm just glad there is enough interest to generate 3 offers.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:49 PM ET
Unless it involves eating a lot of money. Rather have one year of Upshall than picks & 4 years of dead space
- Jsaquella



UPPIE COME HOME
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:49 PM ET
Unless it involves eating a lot of money. Rather have one year of Upshall than picks & 4 years of dead space
- Jsaquella

Take Upshall, ship both Upshall and Umburger to LA in exchange for the excitement of watching them win a Cup with our old buddies. Hartnell to follow at the deadline.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:49 PM ET
Unless it involves eating a lot of money. Rather have one year of Upshall than picks & 4 years of dead space
- Jsaquella


Agreed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:50 PM ET
I agree. I would then move Grossman for picks and sign a cheaper replacement and back-up goalie in either scenario.

I dont want Upshall if we have to eat salary too.

- mochoson


I agree, don't want to eat salary in an Upshall deal. And with Upshall only having one year left on his deal. I would then try to trade Upshall. Some teams need to get to the floor
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:50 PM ET
Need to what if any % of VLs contract we have to eat before I pick one of those deals

If Dallas is offering a 3rd, but asking us to eat 2 million per year for the next 4 years while Fla is offering Upshall straight up while absorbing VLs whole contract, then I take the Florida deal. They can just buy out Upshall and only have to carry a cap hit of 1.1 million for 2 years, freeing up 3.4 million and giving them some financial breathing room.

- BiggE


First Umbeger. Then Upshall. Getting' the band back together!
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:51 PM ET
I'm just glad there is enough interest to generate 3 offers.
- PhillySportsGuy


Funny how we are trying to rid ourselves of LeCavalier and others are willing to take him on with some swapping of $$$ misery
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:51 PM ET
Need to what if any % of VLs contract we have to eat before I pick one of those deals

If Dallas is offering a 3rd, but asking us to eat 2 million per year for the next 4 years while Fla is offering Upshall straight up while absorbing VLs whole contract, then I take the Florida deal. They can just buy out Upshall and only have to carry a cap hit of 1.1 million for 2 years, freeing up 3.4 million and giving them some financial breathing room.

- BiggE


Exactly. I can spend 3.5 mill on a better LW in FA than Upshall.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:51 PM ET
I agree, don't want to eat salary in an Upshall deal. And with Upshall only having one year left on his deal. I would then try to trade Upshall. Some teams need to get to the floor
- MJL


Good point, maybe Buffalo would take him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:51 PM ET
Need to what if any % of VLs contract we have to eat before I pick one of those deals

If Dallas is offering a 3rd, but asking us to eat 2 million per year for the next 4 years while Fla is offering Upshall straight up while absorbing VLs whole contract, then I take the Florida deal. They can just buy out Upshall and only have to carry a cap hit of 1.1 million for 2 years, freeing up 3.4 million and giving them some financial breathing room.

- BiggE



Also a reasonable option. Of course I'd try and trade Upshall first.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 29 @ 6:51 PM ET
Anthony Petrielli ‏@APetrielli 4m

Commenter on MLHS says Philly Sports Radio 94WIP says Philly has 3 offers for Lecalvier: Upshall from FLA, Gleason from TOR, picks from DAL.

- mochoson


Is this assuming vinny would accept a trade to these teams.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:52 PM ET
I agree. I would then move Grossman for picks and sign a cheaper replacement and back-up goalie in either scenario.

I dont want Upshall if we have to eat salary too.

- mochoson


That's why the Gleason one might actually be the best bet in the end if they can move Grossmann... probably don't have to absorb salary at all, and he's still a semi-capable defender who can eat some tough matchups.

(He's more mobile than Grossmann)
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:52 PM ET
First Umbeger. Then Upshall. Getting' the band back together!
- PhillySportsGuy


Carle and Lupul are just waiting for the phone to ring!
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