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ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 27 @ 5:09 PM ET
Sharp is a 0.62/G in the playoffs, Bickell is a 0.59/G player in the playoffs. That's pretty much even...
- L_B_R

Sharp led the Hawks in scoring to get Chicago to the playoffs too.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
So lets be real here....

You aren't getting much IF anything back for Versteeg.

So that leaves:

Oduya
Sharp
Leddy
Bickell
Rozsival

As probably the main trade chips. So before we continue the Spezza, or Stasny, or Nielsen love...do the math on cap geek and know right now the Hawk are NOT compliant with the cap.

And also know the return wont' be as high for any trade as it would IF the cap came in at, at least 70 million.

What an absolute kick in the nuts.

- SteveRain


I think your wrong about that....more like a couple of kicks!

Spezza? Stasny?....

Sharp is the hwk walking dead: he is certainly gone if not this weekend...certainly by this time next year!!

StanBow has the for sale sign out on Johnny O. Versteeg might get you a bag with out the pucks!
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
If I understand it right the Flyers can be 4.9mil over and drop Pronger to LTIR on the first day of the season and be fine. They have a little more room to work with than the other 3.
- vipeviper



You guys have 19 players signed...I guess you are OK, a bit tight though.
SnapitUpstairs
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CHICAGO, IL
Joined: 02.03.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
>We will see who the best poker players are now, for sure
>Think Rutherford in Pitt will get roasted, can Stan outplay his Bruin counterpart Peter S?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
Canadian dollar is weaker now than when the new TV deal was originally set, so that lowers the impact it has on profits when converted to USD.
- L_B_R


And the idiots in the league office couldn't understand or project this.

Inexcusable to be off by $3MM.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
I think your wrong about that....more like a couple of kicks!

Spezza? Stasny?....

Sharp is the hwk walking dead: he is certainly gone if not this weekend...certainly by this time next year!!

StanBow has the for sale sign out on Johnny O. Versteeg might get you a bag with out the pucks!

- bogiedoc

kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
Versteeg might get you a bag with out the pucks!
- bogiedoc



SOLD!
SUDA88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
Tick..tock..tick..tock..
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
Sit on your hands Stan in full force

But he'll just keep dishing out sweetheart contracts to guys like bollig and crawford

Really afraid to hear the toews and kane deals now

- FourFeathers773



bollig's contract is sickening 1.25 mil for a goon that was part of the downfall of the 4th line in the playoffs....morin is 5x the player bollig is...and yes i realize he has a role on the team bc there are a bunch of pansies who can't stand up for themselves on the hawks roster but why not sign him for under 1mil...is the market for goons really that small???
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
And the idiots in the league office couldn't understand or project this.

Inexcusable to be off by $3MM.

- StLBravesFan



NHL is run by clowns. Not anything new. No wonder it's a 2nd tier sport still. And I LOVE hockey...both my sons dumped baseball to play hockey. Hell, I even moved to an area so my oldest could compete in hockey. But still...until it's run as big time, it won't be big time.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:12 PM ET
And the idiots in the league office couldn't understand or project this.

Inexcusable to be off by $3MM.

- StLBravesFan

Plenty of 'idiots' on Wall Street can't project it.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 27 @ 5:12 PM ET
it seems at this point it is not a matter of IF Sharp is moved, but WHERE..... and now the Hawks seem to have lost their leverage bc other GMs know the hawks are above the cap.....
- EnzoD

Hawks are 490k over. drop someone to rockford and you can recoup 900k in cap room. step back from the ledge. Maybe chicago doesnt carry 8 dmen this next season
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
bollig's contract is sickening 1.25 mil for a goon that was part of the downfall of the 4th line in the playoffs....morin is 5x the player bollig is...and yes i realize he has a role on the team bc there are a bunch of pansies who can't stand up for themselves on the hawks roster but why not sign him for under 1mil...is the market for goons really that small???
- EnzoD


If we need to trade Bollig I think we could. Hell, we traded John Scott and he can't even skate.
CBHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pallie
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
Sharp is a 0.62/G in the playoffs, Bickell is a 0.59/G player in the playoffs. That's pretty much even...
- L_B_R


Career #'s are deceiving.

In 2014, Playoffs Sharp is a third line winger getting paid top 6 $$.
Cup-Bearer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
Versteeg - for 6th round pick
Rozy - for 3rd round pick
el-Predicto
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
I think your wrong about that....more like a couple of kicks!

Spezza? Stasny?....

Sharp is the hwk walking dead: he is certainly gone if not this weekend...certainly by this time next year!!

StanBow has the for sale sign out on Johnny O. Versteeg might get you a bag with out the pucks!

- bogiedoc

I think Canucks will go after Stasny now that they have 20 mil in cap space.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
And the idiots in the league office couldn't understand or project this.

Inexcusable to be off by $3MM.

- StLBravesFan

I'm a little dismayed. I always counted on you as one of the few voices of reason on this site.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 27 @ 5:14 PM ET
If we need to trade Bollig I think we could. Hell, we traded John Scott and he can't even skate.
- kwolf68


Yes but at least he actually fights and pounds people in the face! Bollig had what? 5 scraps this year?? and he got absolutely blasted by Chris Neil
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:14 PM ET
I think Canucks will go after Stasny now that they have 20 mil in cap space.
- VANTEL

Stastny plus nothing equals nothing
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
I think Canucks will go after Stasny now that they have 20 mil in cap space.
- VANTEL


If you did...the Nucks would look pretty damn good down the middle

L1-C-Sedin
L2-C-Stastny
L3-C-Bonino

Shoot, that's better than us.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
Hawks are 490k over. drop someone to rockford and you can recoup 900k in cap room. step back from the ledge. Maybe chicago doesnt carry 8 dmen this next season
- ikeane



yes that is an option but it leaves the Hawks right where they left off...with an incomplete top 6 and a weak 3rd defense pair
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
I think Canucks will go after Stasny now that they have 20 mil in cap space.
- VANTEL

dont care. 《red font from the cell》 didnt you hear, Chicago is in cap hell so they need to trade off the whole team ala summer of 2010 《red font》
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
Yes but at least he actually fights and pounds people in the face! Bollig had what? 5 scraps this year?? and he got absolutely blasted by Chris Neil
- EnzoD


True and not true. Almost no one would fight Scott. So he was useless. Bollig isn't a very good fighter and is a very suspect hockey player at this level. He only got the call because of his physical element and YES he's overpaid.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
If you did...the Nucks would look pretty damn good down the middle

L1-C-Sedin
L2-C-Reinhart
L3-C-Bonino

Shoot, that's better than us.

- kwolf68


Fixed for the long term
Morganskaner88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
How can we all be so upset and disappointed? I think most of us expected nothing and it's becoming clearer that's probably what we will get. Get the band back together Colin Fraser and Jake Dowell anyone...that should maker Kane want to stay right? I'm not so upset about today but the overwhelming pattern of our prospects, picks, or aging productive veterans are too valuable.

I think the outlook it still positive for the franchise, the cupboards are pretty well stocked with bottom 6ish forwards, but not bonafode guys who will fill the holes we do/will have...a 2c and 1st/2nd line wings to replace Sharp and Hossa. The d and g prospects are non-existent or marginal in most cases.

I'm not jumping off cliffs based on things, just hoping we do more than replace crap with newer crap and dump cash because we had no foresight.
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