More worried about filling PK time. Lose 16&26 = PK hole.
- resqmed99

Those are quite easy to acquire through trade or FA, especially for contending teams.

>Still think the number for #19 & #88 is 8/$9.375 per ($75 million total)
>Am convinced SBow has been in contact with just about every team trying to see what they need and what his options are
>Also believe the Hawks learned their lesson about gloating after a big win on the Leddy trade
>You can be the smartest GM in the world, but if no one will trade with you, you become useless
>Enough time has passed since the gloating and Uncle Dale being shown the door -- think the climate is right for some big-time dealing by the Hawks
>Also think the Hawks may wind up being the most active team this offseason -- if they are -- it should be good for we fans
- SnapitUpstairs

Hi, Snapper. It will be good for the fans if they are "effectively active", imo. Those acquired need to do what they are intended to do.

And life man...
- HawkintheD

You got it! Good pick up.

More worried about filling PK time. Lose 16&26 = PK hole.
- resqmed99

Once again.... Why do people keep forgetting? We have Brandon (Frank)ing Bollig.

So IF Kruger goes, Shaw gets moved to 3C. Who is 4C, and who plays next to Kesler on 2PK?

I still think Sharp needs to get moved for his cap space.

If they pull this off, I will do my happy dance...

Screwing around on Capgeek with their armchair GM. I doubt they would/could make so many moves, but if they were to deal Leddy, Oduya, and Rozy, and send Kruger and picks/prospects to Vancouver for Kessler, that leaves them with plenty of room to resign Ben Smith, Raanta, Morin if they want to, and add a couple of veteran dmen, even one at $3 mil to play with Hammer and say one at $1 mil. to play with Rundbland/Dahlbeck.

A few free agent d-men who averaged the 20 mins per game ice time of a 2nd pairing:

Tom Gilbert
Brooks Orpik
Andre Benoit
Willie Mitchell
Kyle Quincey

Those guys made $3 mil or less last season. There are a few others who made more and lots of other guys who had much worse +/-

So there are some options if they got very aggressive, besides adding someone in trade.

Brookbank could be resigned around $1 mil. to be in play on that 5/6/7th dman role. I'd much rather have him back than Rozy, although I'd rather have an upgrade.

Just an example and the dmen could change, Smith/Morin/Raanta's salaries could be slightly higher but there is a tiny bit of cap room to accommodate that.

Hawks example roster
FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Brandon Saad ($0.764m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Bryan Bickell ($4.000m) / Andrew Shaw ($2.000m) / Ben Smith ($0.750m)
Brandon Bollig ($1.250m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Kris Versteeg ($2.200m)
Jeremy Morin ($0.761m) / Joakim Nordstrom ($0.617m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Niklas Hjalmarsson ($4.100m) / Tom Gilbert ($2.000m)
Klas Dahlbeck ($0.613m) / Sheldon Brookbank ($1.000m)
David Rundblad ($0.785m) /
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($6.000m)
Antti Raanta ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Steve Montador ($0.000m)
Rostislav Olesz ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,353,878; BONUSES: $433,333
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,746,122

Once again.... Why do people keep forgetting? We have Brandon (Frank)ing Bollig.
- bhawks8819

You mean that guy who was 1/3 of the Hawks most consistent line last season? I remember him. I also remember that he was a regular PK'er in his time at RFD, so maybe he is part of the answer there.

So IF Kruger goes, Shaw gets moved to 3C. Who is 4C, and who plays next to Kesler on 2PK?

I still think Sharp needs to get moved for his cap space.
- DMCsPulledHammy

Think of all the line options Q has if they keep 16 while acquiring RK. Moving 16 here not only mandates even more money being moved in other deals, it forces SB to ante-up for a 3C. Too bad Bolly is a health risk while asking too much.

So IF Kruger goes, Shaw gets moved to 3C. Who is 4C, and who plays next to Kesler on 2PK?

I still think Sharp needs to get moved for his cap space.
- DMCsPulledHammy

Details, Hammy, details....

Unbaleeevable


Could it really happen? The big Stan Bowman trade??

NYI get Patrick Sharp
CHI gets Ryan Kesler + Josh Bailey
VAN gets Marcus Kruger + NYI 2014 1st round pick

So IF Kruger goes, Shaw gets moved to 3C. Who is 4C, and who plays next to Kesler on 2PK?

I still think Sharp needs to get moved for his cap space.
- DMCsPulledHammy

Saad? Smith? Didn't Versteeg see significant PK time in 2010? Seem to recall him scoring some shorties.

NYI get Patrick Sharp
CHI gets Ryan Kesler + Josh Bailey
VAN gets Marcus Kruger + NYI 2014 1st round pick
- kcNYI

Would the Islanders deal Bailey?

He does have a $3.3 mil cap hit. Which could fit in this year with another move or two, but keeping both him and Kessler for 2015 with the T and K raises could be an issue.

Would the Islanders deal Bailey?

He does have a $3.3 mil cap hit. Which could fit in this year with another move or two, but keeping both him and Kessler for 2015 with the T and K raises could be an issue.
- Hemingways

Bailey is being shopped

Hi, Snapper. It will be good for the fans if they are "effectively active", imo. Those acquired need to do what they are intended to do.
- mohel

>Howdy, Mo
>Just have a feeling good things are in the works
>And yes, if the FO makes all the right moves, the players -- and coaches -- will need to do their part

Saad? Smith? Didn't Versteeg see significant PK time in 2010? Seem to recall him scoring some shorties.
- Ogilthorpe2

Not sure about Steeg but I think both Saad and Smith (in particular) got better on pk as the year wore on.

I like Kooga but don't they have 3 more iterations of him at RFD in Nordy, Hartman, Danault; maybe not all ready for the big club yet but Shaw or Smith would certainly be fine at 3C.

NYI get Patrick Sharp
CHI gets Ryan Kesler + Josh Bailey
VAN gets Marcus Kruger + NYI 2014 1st round pick
- kcNYI

ummm...keep dreaming...sharp has a NMC/NTC and he is not going to approve a trade to a nothing Islander team

1. It's Toews. Learn it, live it, love it. 2. Don't view a single move in a vacuum. 3. 'guins have cap issues, deal with it. 4. Can't sign? FA isn't even open. 5. I am putting 19/88 at $75M/8yrs each.
- blackhawk24

From McKenzie earlier....

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 10h
It's believed Kane-Toews initial ask of CHI on extension is around $12M/yr each. They'll end up lower but still could be $10M+ AAV players.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 10h
If there are two guys to redefine new CBA era/rising cap, it's Kane and Toews. Each has one year left on existing deal. Fascinating dynamic.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 10h
Many agents believe cap could be as high as $75M for 2015-16, continue to escalate rapidly. Double digit AAV for superstars may be new norm.

NYI get Patrick Sharp
CHI gets Ryan Kesler + Josh Bailey
VAN gets Marcus Kruger + NYI 2014 1st round pick
- kcNYI

TT or nada, we already have enough 3rd line players...

#freeSource
- Ogilthorpe2

#freesource

#donttradekruger

I still cannot believe we haven't heard from Buttman regarding the cap number.

#freesource

#donttradekruger
- DarthKane

#whatiftheHawkswereabletogetKeslerandnielsen

edit - and #freesource

>Still think the number for #19 & #88 is 8/$9.375 per ($75 million total)
>Am convinced SBow has been in contact with just about every team trying to see what they need and what his options are
>Also believe the Hawks learned their lesson about gloating after a big win on the Leddy trade
>You can be the smartest GM in the world, but if no one will trade with you, you become useless
>Enough time has passed since the gloating and Uncle Dale being shown the door -- think the climate is right for some big-time dealing by the Hawks
>Also think the Hawks may wind up being the most active team this offseason -- if they are -- it should be good for we fans
- SnapitUpstairs

Not convinced gloating has been the issue, until now Bowman and Co. haven't been convinced they really needed to do something big in the trade market. All they have really done is dump prospects who they decided weren.t in future plans or moved players like Bolland and Frolik who they could lose to fee agency.

Now, Bowman is or should be looking worriedly over his shoulder at the Wild, Stars and Blues in his own division and at the Ducks and Kings.

Time to belly up to the bar and address roster deficiencies in a big way. And bring his prospect and draft pick wallet with him.

I still cannot believe we haven't heard from Buttman regarding the cap number.
- Lido_Shuffle

Bettman was quoted today saying the final assessment and consult with the Players Assoc. takes place tonight...

...numbers to be announced very soon, likely tomorrow before the draft.