Again, I disagree.
- PhilMeister89

In this case there really is nothing else to look at because of the timing of Getzlaf/Perry deal and the fact they are as valuable to the Ducks as Kane and Toews to Chgo.

Want to get things done? Deal TT for the #1 overall as centerpieces in first trade. Use that #1 plus a # 1 2015 for Kesler and their #2 2015. Deal Oduya and Sharp for picks or whatever. This is plan B if Statsny says no to Chg. Bowman gets partial or full season to determine if Leddy takes that next step. One year also for a few dman prospects in Rockford to prep. One year also to determine if Kruger can become an effective #3c. McNeill, Danault, Carey, Nordstrom are late season possibilities. By then Morin has played himself into a more prominent role for Chg or some other team. Hayes is like don't let the door hit you on your way out of town.

Hopefully Rosy can be given away. Stuck with Versteeg but there is slight possibility he could be dealt later in the season should he show that he is healthy.
- jhawk59

First overall picks are for poopty teams like the leafs stop being greedy

Bickell, Leddy and a 1st

for

Kesler


High price tag but helps both teams....
- ChicagoDave

Hope that would be a 2014 first

Why can't tv stations allow you to pay 4.99 a month and stream their stuff online.

I suppose that would undercut the cable companies but (frank) em
- Sheppy99

ala-cart. it's going that way. IMO, with the trajectory of technology, the "cable" companies either morph into a PPV/Netflix type or go bye-bye.

Comcast, U-verse, etc ... as you see them today will be done, gone, kaput; in less than 5 years, maybe 3.

175 comments an hour boys

yikes

Whatever cap problems the Hawks have in the future because OF Kane Toews AND a Hossas deals.it has been worth every penny
- mrpaulish

Gimme 3 cups in 6/7 years, or 4 in 8/9 years and I'll agree.

Getzlaf and Perry signed for 8,625,000 out of possible max deals of 12,860,000. That puts them at 67% of max.

Parise and Suter signed at 63% of max deals

Crosby signed at 72.5% of max

Malkin signed at 66.81% of max

So if Toews and Kane were to each get 70% of max, that means right about $10 million each.
- Tanuki

This! All of this $12M plus talk is probably to make the deal they eventually get look generous to the team and fans. 65%-75% of max should be the range.

175 comments an hour boys

yikes
- FourFeathers773

Drooling

In this case there really is nothing else to look at because of the timing of Getzlaf/Perry deal and the fact they are as valuable to the Ducks as Kane and Toews to Chgo.
- Al

Fair enough. But since this is essentially a "new market", don't Toews and Kane set the new bar? And I think it would be higher because of these players skill levels and accomplishments.

Want to get things done? Deal TT for the #1 overall as centerpieces in first trade. Use that #1 plus a # 1 2015 for Kesler and their #2 2015. Deal Oduya and Sharp for picks or whatever. This is plan B if Statsny says no to Chg. Bowman gets partial or full season to determine if Leddy takes that next step. One year also for a few dman prospects in Rockford to prep. One year also to determine if Kruger can become an effective #3c. McNeill, Danault, Carey, Nordstrom are late season possibilities. By then Morin has played himself into a more prominent role for Chg or some other team. Hayes is like don't let the door hit you on your way out of town.

Hopefully Rosy can be given away. Stuck with Versteeg but there is slight possibility he could be dealt later in the season should he show that he is healthy.
- jhawk59

Florida doesn't want another prospect as they have plenty of those in the system. It would take a player like Sharp who can score some goals for the team and provide some sort of leadership.

jeesh,, as a lightning fan it scare me to think what stamkos will get!
- tampabaydoompatrol

Yes, the price will set the bar but Stamkos is short a little hardware.

175 comments an hour boys

yikes
- FourFeathers773

And I helped!!

6/27/72: One of long-time 'Hawks fans least favourite dates.
- blackhawk24

Fair enough. But since this is essentially a "new market", don't Toews and Kane set the new bar? And I think it would be higher because of these players skill levels and accomplishments.
- PhilMeister89

To be clear I never said it wouldn't be higher, it should be as cap is higher...But higher is $9.5-$10 mill, not $12 million.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

Yes, the price will set the bar but Stamkos is short a little hardware.
- Cup-Bearer

Cup wins don't set the bar,, Justin Williams has 2 and is making less than 4

Cup wins don't set the bar,, Justin Williams has 2 and is making less than 4
- tampabaydoompatrol

Ditto to Kunitz

I don't buy $12M a season. If they break the bank, they will be playing with a lot ELC and retreads on the cheap and they both know that
- Sundevil

You'd think that even if 12m is what they are starting off with, its just a starting point. Franchise player discounts, negotiations.. I'd expect 9.5-10 each.

27 hours until the draft. Still nervous.

Gimme 3 cups in 6/7 years, or 4 in 8/9 years and I'll agree.
- blackhawk24

the price of happiness has went up... to think it was only 'wanting to see a cup in my lifetime' not long ago

This will be the summary of my reaction if Toews and kane get 10+ mil per

To be clear I never said it wouldn't be higher, it should be as cap is higher...But higher is $9.5-$10 mill, not $12 million.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
- Al

I'm not an advocate for $12 mil. I'm young but I understand negotiations and the concept of "you don't pay sticker price." If the Kane/Toews camp came to the table wanting $12, I expect it to be less. Just saying that I don't expect their contracts to be less than anybody's currently. I think they have earned the right to set the bar this time around.

Fair enough. But since this is essentially a "new market", don't Toews and Kane set the new bar? And I think it would be higher because of these players skill levels and accomplishments.
- PhilMeister89

EXACTLY. Which is why Donald Fehr will do whatever is in his power to make sure they get every last penny he thinks they are worth. He did it in MLB.

This will be the summary of my reaction if Toews and kane get 10+ mil per


- FourFeathers773

Why, are you going to paying them?

12M makes Verbeauty's 2.2 look like a bargain. On second thought, no it doesn't

This will be the summary of my reaction if Toews and kane get 10+ mil per


- FourFeathers773

"NO!! WE SIGNED TWO CONN SMYTHE WINNERS IN THEIR PRIME!?"