true. i would love to see a play for James Neal. wouldn't come cheap though.
- DoubleDown

He definetly would look good with Patches and DD...

true. i would love to see a play for James Neal. wouldn't come cheap though.
- DoubleDown

Now there's a POS I wouldn't like even if he was on the habs. Hell of a player though and instantly makes the team better.

I'd love to see Kane despite complaints about his ego. The same was said of Subban and Price.

fair enough but i don't think there's much value in any of the players you listed. maybe Plekanec had serious value but the others are periphery pieces.
- DoubleDown

I think that Plekanec, Emelin have value and some team close to the cap would like to have Eller as well. But it all depends who MB is going for and i have no clue unlike Eklund *cough* *cough*

ok fair enough. say they move him.
then what? you've lost Vanek. you move Bourque, you're getting NOTHING in return. so you're down 2 top 9 forwards. who replaces them? re-sign Brian Gionta and play him on the second line? yay! Dale Weise on the third line? yay!
not sure we should be giving him away.
- DoubleDown

Agreed that you need to replace the lost offensive.

I'm quite sure there's a deal to be made via trade or maybe go after a guy like Michalek or Hesmky (cringes)

Now there's a POS I wouldn't like even if he was on the habs. Hell of a player though and instantly makes the team better.

I'd love to see Kane despite complaints about his ego. The same was said of Subban and Price.
- muffin_man

He was young, had an immediate impact on the team and wasn't surrounded properly. The management team is more of a mess than Kane IMO.

fair enough but i don't think there's much value in any of the players you listed. maybe Plekanec had serious value but the others are periphery pieces.
- DoubleDown

Emelin and Eller would be excellent sell-low options. I want to see another full season of Emelin before giving up on him. He was much better before his injury. Eller might be a 30 point player on the 3rd line and if so, he's a bust but he has shown flashes of brilliance. I don't see anyone giving us much of anything for him so not much point in trading him.

Agreed that you need to replace the lost offensive.

I'm quite sure there's a deal to be made via trade or maybe go after a guy like Michalek or Hesmky (cringes)
- WaterBoy

ugh please no.
Michalak, maybe, if on a super short term deal. that guy might be finished.

He was young, had an immediate impact on the team and wasn't surrounded properly. The management team is more of a mess than Kane IMO.
- Habsody

exactly. minor leaguers running an NHL franchise in a hockey-crazy market. He's 22. With good management he turns it around like Carter or Seguin.

ugh please no.
Michalak, maybe, if on a super short term deal. that guy might be finished.
- DoubleDown

This year's UFA crop blows. Both those guys will get $20M contracts

Emelin and Eller would be excellent sell-low options. I want to see another full season of Emelin before giving up on him. He was much better before his injury. Eller might be a 30 point player on the 3rd line and if so, he's a bust but he has shown flashes of brilliance. I don't see anyone giving us much of anything for him so not much point in trading him.
- muffin_man

yeah im not sold on Emelin being junk either but there's no question that he's got little to no value, especially with that contract. guys like Eller and Gorges, yeah they've got some value, but you're looking at second round picks or B prospects for them. not worth dealing. unless you plan on replacing Gorges another way.

exactly. minor leaguers running an NHL franchise in a hockey-crazy market. He's 22. With good management he turns it around like Carter or Seguin.
- muffin_man

Yeah i would be pretty confident with Kane doing the same turn around. Big, strong, fast and a pure goal scorer. He is the kind of power forward this team has been lacking for too long.

Eric Engels ‏@EricEngels 27 s Voir la traduction
Who would you rather have, Patrik Berglund or Dave Bolland?
- WaterBoy

Suggesting Bolland (when healthy) is not one of the better third line centers in the league is wrong.

If he's good enough to play in that role in Chicago then he's good enough to play that role in 90% of the teams in the league.

exactly. minor leaguers running an NHL franchise in a hockey-crazy market. He's 22. With good management he turns it around like Carter or Seguin.
- muffin_man

He's also by far the biggest celebrity in WPG, aside from Stormey.

Now there's a POS I wouldn't like even if he was on the habs. Hell of a player though and instantly makes the team better.

I'd love to see Kane despite complaints about his ego. The same was said of Subban and Price.
- muffin_man

Galchenyuk + for Kane.

You still want him?

Eric Engels: Markov's Leadership, Subban's Contract, Draft Weekend and UFA Period
- EricEngels

are we expecting a busy day in habsland?

Yeah i would be pretty confident with Kane doing the same turn around. Big, strong, fast and a pure goal scorer. He is the kind of power forward this team has been lacking for too long.
- Habsody

But does acquiring him create a bigger hole elsewhere?
Unless we can get him for Bourque/Gorges/Emelin + prospects + picks which I doubt so Stormey you don't have to tell me I'm an idiot for offering spare parts

Suggesting Bolland (when healthy) is not one of the better third line centers in the league is wrong.

If he's good enough to play in that role in Chicago then he's good enough to play that role in 90% of the teams in the league.
- stormeyweather

AND HE SCORED THE CUP WINNING GOAL!!!!






(like Travis Moen and Max Talbot did at some point)

Suggesting Bolland (when healthy) is not one of the better third line centers in the league is wrong.

If he's good enough to play in that role in Chicago then he's good enough to play that role in 90% of the teams in the league.
- stormeyweather

We have 3 3rd line centers already, Sean.

Also, he's not healthy and thinks he's worth more than Gaborik. Talk about an ego problem...

Suggesting Bolland (when healthy) is not one of the better third line centers in the league is wrong.

If he's good enough to play in that role in Chicago then he's good enough to play that role in 90% of the teams in the league.
- stormeyweather

But will he be healthy again, he says he is still not ready to go. Been a long time.

But does acquiring him create a bigger hole elsewhere?
Unless we can get him for Bourque/Gorges/Emelin + prospects + picks which I doubt so Stormey you don't have to tell me I'm an idiot for offering spare parts
- braidan

Gallagher, Eller, 1st/D prospect would be my bet

that's not what an anecdote means... what you used is anecdotal evidence, it doesn't mean that what you observed is the norm.

Aren't you suppose to be smart?
- number_23

Hey, tell me something. Are you a complete (frank)ing idiot?

He was young, had an immediate impact on the team and wasn't surrounded properly. The management team is more of a mess than Kane IMO.
- Habsody

No.
That team was a mess when it came to WPG.

They are building through the draft with Scheifele, Trouba, Morrisey etc. There are no complaints in Winnipeg right now with the management team. We'll see what they do in the next couple of years to take the next step.

Plekanec, Gorges, 1st round pick, Eller. Something like that for the 1st overall pick from Florida and maybe a minimal something else. Draft Ekblad.

Trade Subban to Edmonton for the third overall and 1 of Yakupov, Perron or Gagner. Draft Draisaitl.

Throw money at Niskanen.

Edit: sorry, had to post in a hurry and didn't get to explain. Heard there was an offer of Plekanec, fucale and our first for the first overall. With mine, I know Florida wants someone younger as well who can play and I know they likely mean better than Eller but I'm not letting Pacioretty, Gallagher or Galchenyuk go.

I still like my previous suggestion of Bourque for Fleischmann as an add in bc fleischmann's contract ends next summer which allows some cap space to be free sooner for Galchenyuk and Gallagher who are RFA's next summer.

Pleky is the only centre who gets moved who gets any kind of a return.

With the cap only going to about $70M, I really don't like the idea of giving more than 10% of the cap to 1 player. I love Subban's personality but his defensive gaffes just make me wonder sometimes.

To me, Ekblad screams future Weber, Keith, Seabrook type of dman. I think this is all about the quality of the players and what they can become.

If Subban's going to settle on something closer to $7M, then keep him, anything more, I'd prefer to have 2 good assets for the same price.

Of Gagner, Yakupov and Perron, I'd honestly want Perron the most, but not sure if we get him, could likely easily get Yakupov or Gagner. Gagner is my last option.

On the other side, I'm thinking future too. Ekblad would be up for a big contract after his ELC as markov's contract ends in 3 years which would be perfect.

I'd aim to put money into Niskanen for another right handed shot. I'd go as far as $6M a year for 6 years on him.

Play Markov with Niskanen now. Put Emelin with Ekblad with the option of Ekblad and Beaulieu on the second power play unit or mixing it up to mix youth and experience at times between Markov, Niskanen, Beaulieu and Ekblad.

I'd just try to sign a cheap, older right handed defensive defenseman for the third pairing. Then look at tinordi and pateryn as the 7/8 guys.

Up front, tough to say. Go for iginla if you can. That would be great. I'd want 2 years at $6M per. I'd even offer him 3 years if it sealed the deal. Maybe at $5.5M cap hit if its 3 years.

Try michalek or moulson as preferences for a LW. Heatley at a discount as a backup option.

To me, it screams Bergevin. Build through the draft, have some more experience in the lineup and have some strong character. You also can choose to send Draisaitl back to junior or keep him but know that he can replace Desharnais, with size, down the road. Galchenyuk and Draisaitl as your top 2 centres in 3 years spells success.

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Iginla
Moulson/Michalek/Heatley-Galchenyuk-Perron/Yakupov
Bourque/Fleischmann/Other-Eller/Draisaitl/Other-Gallagher
Prust-Briere-Weise
Moen-Bournival

Markov-Niskanen
Emelin-Ekblad
Beaulieu-Other
Tinordi-Pateryn

Price
Budaj/Tokarski

Maximum Cap Hit - ~$77M

So I obviously choose to try and trade Briere for a cheaper option. Trade Budaj and use Tokarski, trade Moen and sign the cheapest but best option for the money for the second line left winger. Yakupov is also currently the cheapest option contract-wise for those potentially coming back from Edmonton.
- Elfward

AND HE SCORED THE CUP WINNING GOAL!!!!






(like Travis Moen and Max Talbot did at some point)
- Pecafan Fan

Didn't the Hawks lock up Bickell after a great playoff year, and have they not been trying to move him since.. Like a one hit wonder.

ugh please no.
Michalak, maybe, if on a super short term deal. that guy might be finished.
- DoubleDown

Can we trade for James Neal? Patrick Marleau?
Great, I'm back 100% to my high-hoping mode. Never ends well.