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Maximum Signal
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Jun 26 @ 10:54 AM ET
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I have Ehrhoff as good as gone so I didn't even include him... but with signing Moulson and giving Ennis a big pay day... Including Reinhart's 2nd overall size pay day

We are still 20M under the cap

- JVince11


I don't think Reinhart gets 3.75 on Rookie deal . There are set limits . The mindset has been for months that #1 pick goes back to junior to get bigger and stronger . Murray Nolan do not believe in teenagers being here.
JVince11
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Jun 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
We would get more production out of him then we will Stewart.
- SABRES 89



....... are you even listening to yourself?

Jussi Jokinen??
SABRES 89
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Jun 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
....... are you even listening to yourself?

Jussi Jokinen??

- JVince11

Yea I am, Stewart is nothing and will be traded.
nfph
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Jun 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
....... are you even listening to yourself?

Jussi Jokinen??

- JVince11

Easy, please. Trying to stamp this stuff off the board.
Maximum Signal
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Jun 26 @ 10:57 AM ET
We would get more production out of him then we will Stewart.
- SABRES 89


Stewart is in a contract year . I think Nolan does for him what he did for Stafford . He is playing for his next contract this year.
nfph
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Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
Stewart is in a contract year . I think Nolan does for him what he did for Stafford . He is playing for his next contract this year.
- Maximum Signal

Hopefully to raise his value in a trade.
twinks20
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Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
Ehrhoff, 2015 St Louis 1st, 2014 39th overall

for

Brett Connolly, 19th overall?

Connolly has disappointed as a high draft pick so far. He's having trouble beating out the likes of Johnson and Palat and Filpulla. I don't know if it would be wise to pick up a mediocre Luke Adam type.

- TheSabresTaco



Thanks for the info. Heard his name the other day and never really looked into how he has progressed.
cabin
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Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
Hopefully to raise his value in a trade.
- nfph

Last season everyone crapped. What if they all play above their "potencial" and we make the playoffs
HonkFortheGoose
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Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
I don't think Reinhart gets 3.75 on Rookie deal . There are set limits . The mindset has been for months that #1 pick goes back to junior to get bigger and stronger . Murray Nolan do not believe in teenagers being here.
- Maximum Signal


You are right, but at the same time so is he. A rookie doesn't make that much for a base salary, but with all the bonuses they can get, it could essentially equal that much.

However, I thought that when the CBA was renegotiated, the bonuses don't count against your cap until the next year, and there's a certain bonus cushion you're allowed. So no matter what, from what I remember, he shouldn't actually count that much against the cap either way. (I could be wrong though).
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
Sure the cap is a problem, but its a nice problem to have.

We can't just assume Stewart is looking to stay, and why let an asset like Stafford walk for nothing?

Those 2nd rd picks become nice assets when stocking the cupboards.

- SuperCat


Well now you're introducing variables instead of looking at it as a static issue. Sure, what we talk about here is conjecture and speculation and hypotheticals...

If you look at all the variables, it's going to be very difficult to release more than one of those guys, especially if you're not getting a veteran in return of equal or greater value. Our cupboards are going to be overflowing with kids without the necessary veteran presence this team needs to succeed let alone reach the friggin cap. If. If both of those guys are 100% sure they want to walk, sure they'll be traded for money in return. But I'm going to take a stab and say both of them are not 100% convinced.
Maximum Signal
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Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
Hopefully to raise his value in a trade.
- nfph


That would be a nice result as well . Make a real catch at trade deadline.
SuperCat
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Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
Stafford or Stewart stay... we need one of them... Just my hunch.

Stafford really bought into Nolan last year and played good for a big part of the year.

Stewart when he is motivated like he was in STL can be a very good power forward but probably not top line.

- JVince11



It is a little odd, because Teddy really seems to have takin a liking to both Stafford & Stewart.

But I just can't see Staff fitting in with the plan. $4 mill for 16g's, on a guy who has already peaked? IDK.

I could do 3yrs @ $3 mill/yr... But even that is taking ice away from young players on my3rd line.
Stripes77
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Jun 26 @ 11:00 AM ET
Jussi Jokinen, but IMO he would be a hard player to sign if other playoff teams want him.
- SABRES 89


I agree, he would be a good 2nd liner here in the future but my guess is he wouldn't want to come here unless he was overpaid and honestly I am not in that kind of mind set.

TheSabresTaco
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Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
You are right, but at the same time so is he. A rookie doesn't make that much for a base salary, but with all the bonuses they can get, it could essentially equal that much.

However, I thought that when the CBA was renegotiated, the bonuses don't count against your cap until the next year, and there's a certain bonus cushion you're allowed. So no matter what, from what I remember, he shouldn't actually count that much against the cap either way. (I could be wrong though).

- HonkFortheGoose


Then I gotta ask what's going on with the Jerome Iginla cap penalty because of his bonuses.
keptupl8
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Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
Jussi was only that good because he had Malkin and Crosby..

he comes here and he would revert back to just being a shootout specialist with no skill on the ice.

Kind of like Boyes was here... although miss-used.. his points were gone when not with other talented players.

- JVince11

His 2 best point-production seasons were in Carolina
Stripes77
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Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
....... are you even listening to yourself?

Jussi Jokinen??

- JVince11


Vince Jokinen played big minutes and in key situations with the Pens last season. He was one of their best players. Even his advanced stats are really good and I am not a huge advanced stat guy but his numbers are impressive.
JVince11
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Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
His 2 best point-production seasons were in Carolina
- keptupl8


His best season was 65 pts in 2009 with Carolina but last season with Pitt was his 2nd best with 57 points.

he is also 31 years old
nfph
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Jun 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
That would be a nice result as well . Make a real catch at trade deadline.
- Maximum Signal

Personally, I groaned when Stewart came back last spring. He can't get out of our jersey fast enough, and performance in a contract year will reinforce his crappiness the past two, rather than change my mind.

Stafford's contract situation all over again if they buy high on him this year.

"What's Darcy done wrong?"
Stripes77
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Jun 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
Jussi was only that good because he had Malkin and Crosby..

he comes here and he would revert back to just being a shootout specialist with no skill on the ice.

Kind of like Boyes was here... although miss-used.. his points were gone when not with other talented players.

- JVince11



Sorry Vince but I don't agree. Not at all actually
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
We would get more production out of him then we will Stewart.
- SABRES 89


Highly debatable considering his extremely streaky past. Having two of the top offensive players in the league is a far cry from what this team can offer. Jokinen is a finisher, not a play maker.
HonkFortheGoose
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Jun 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
Then I gotta ask what's going on with the Jerome Iginla cap penalty because of his bonuses.
- TheSabresTaco


Well, according to capgeek, Boston currently has a $4.75 mil bonus overage from last year.
keptupl8
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Jun 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
His best season was 65 pts in 2009 with Carolina but last season with Pitt was his 2nd best with 57 points.

he is also 31 years old

- JVince11

He had .7 points per game last year. He had 2 seasons with better production rate in Carolina.

I don't care either way, just pointing out that be was not better because of Crosby and Malkin. Also he shook the shootout specialist reputation in Carolina.
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 26 @ 11:06 AM ET
It is a little odd, because Teddy really seems to have takin a liking to both Stafford & Stewart.

But I just can't see Staff fitting in with the plan. $4 mill for 16g's, on a guy who has already peaked? IDK.

I could do 3yrs @ $3 mill/yr... But even that is taking ice away from young players on my3rd line.

- SuperCat


His next contract could be between 3.5 and 5 million depending on his performance next season. History says he'll make around 4 but he's been too inconsistent for a big ass contract. We'll see I guess.
JVince11
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Jun 26 @ 11:08 AM ET
Personally, I groaned when Stewart came back last spring. He can't get out of our jersey fast enough, and performance in a contract year will reinforce his crappiness the past two, rather than change my mind.

Stafford's contract situation all over again if they buy high on him this year.

"What's Darcy done wrong?"

- nfph


Stewart is 26 but has not had the type of production as Stafford has

Stafford is 28 but we know how style of streaky.


I wouldn't mind seeing them both leave.. but we need a veteran on our top 6. I hope Moulson comes back too.
Buffalo-Sabres
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Jun 26 @ 11:08 AM ET
I stopped watching after the trade deadline last year...

I know that we set the record for most goalies played last year... who did he bust up?

- JVince11



Hackett was one. I forgot the other. Both plays he was getting clearly beat and upended the guy.
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