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sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:47 PM ET
Why did they turn down re-alignment ? If the talent is not distributed evenly , Teams that get an abundance of talent won't be able to pay as much per player . Also the teams that don't have the wealth of talent , pay less out . That was the whole idea of drafts to make sure all teams have talent. Maybe they lower the age to free agency in exchange for approving this new draft proposal. By the time players get to free agency , how many good years do they really have left. The age it is set up now has not worked for anyone .

Our owner was willing to put out the money to have our own evaluation camps to have better success drafting . They saw how good a draft Buffalo had and rather than other teams doing it , they made it against the rules . So now we try to rebuild this way as other successful franchises did and they change the rules again . Fine change the rules but you have to give franchises enough time to adjust to them . You do not pull this crap when franchises are in the middle of rebuilding counting on the rules that were in place.

- Maximum Signal


They changed the percentages last year and the union allowed it. So that's why I was wondering why they would not do the same this time.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:51 PM ET
They changed the percentages last year and the union allowed it. So that's why I was wondering why they would not do the same this time.
- sippyd


All about the power . NHLPA will want something back in exchange for approving it . What will the owners give up if this means so much to them.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:52 PM ET
The only way to get real assets in this NHL is to draft them . If you want to trade them after you acquire fine . Also you have no clue when it comes to Myers . He will develop . You do not bail on him now and start over when he finally has a coach that is developing him properly.

You are not going to make the playoffs this year . We still will get high picks . We need another year of that . No guarantee NHLPA approves this.



- Maximum Signal

Myers is an asset. Whats the return.. Murray has no ties to him..
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:53 PM ET
EDIT: Anyone want to help me come up with a deadline/punishment(maybe Leino instead of Darcy this time?)/punishment duration?

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Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:54 PM ET
I think we should collectively come up with an agreed upon punishment soon.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 26 @ 9:55 PM ET
[quote=Herzeleid]EDIT: Anyone want to help me come up with a deadline/punishment(maybe Leino instead of Darcy this time?)/punishment duration?

**Thinking of either Habs/GoLeafsGo avatar (not one bashing either team though), until the end of summer (end of August), deadline some time tonight or 12.00PM tomorrow.

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:
/quote]


Good job I kept track the last one .
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jun 26 @ 9:56 PM ET
Myers is an asset. Whats the return.. Murray has no ties to him..
- hafgod



Probably the #15 overall pick and a prospect?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 26 @ 9:56 PM ET
I think we should collectively come up with an agreed upon punishment soon.
- Herzeleid

Could have Nf ban the fails till July 1st 11:59 pm


Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:57 PM ET
Myers is an asset. Whats the return.. Murray has no ties to him..
- hafgod

You have developed him this far . Another year under Nolan and his value sky rockets.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:58 PM ET
It just makes no sense to me, they put in a cap to prevent teams from trying to buy the cup and now they put in rules so you can't take advantage of the draft. Not sure how many other ways there are to rebuild other than getting really luck on some lopsided trades.
- BigStew

I want the sabres to get McDavid.
But in the long run its good for the NHL.
You cant have teams openly saying they want to tank..
People pay money to see these games. Teams are on NBC.
the draft will be still an asset to bad teams. but will make teams make trades and draft to get better
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 26 @ 9:59 PM ET
You have developed him this far . Another year under Nolan and his value sky rockets.
- Maximum Signal

Seems to be were he is trending . Next season will be the tell tail. I would rather not be wishing we kept him.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jun 26 @ 9:59 PM ET
Myers is an asset. Whats the return.. Murray has no ties to him..
- hafgod



Myers is an asset. Correct. And if we happen to have an opportunity to acquire an offensive stud straight up, or in a package, for Myers then we need to do it.

Our defensive depth will allow us to trade from a position of strength to shore up a position of weakness.

After all, there are no guarantees of McEichel. Especially now.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:00 PM ET
You have developed him this far . Another year under Nolan and his value sky rockets.
- Maximum Signal

I like Myers.. If there is a trade that makes us better u make it.
You give Nolan to much credit. He gets average players to give all. I know of no defenseman he has ever developed..
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:00 PM ET
Myers is an asset. Correct. And if we happen to have an opportunity to acquire an offensive stud straight up, or in a package, for Myers then we need to do it.

Our defensive depth will allow us to trade from a position of strength to shore up a position of weakness.

After all, there are no guarantees of McEichel. Especially now.

- grand-magus

SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:02 PM ET
It just makes no sense to me, they put in a cap to prevent teams from trying to buy the cup and now they put in rules so you can't take advantage of the draft. Not sure how many other ways there are to rebuild other than getting really luck on some lopsided trades.
- BigStew



Put it this way..

In the end, Ol Patty wasn't gonna let T-Pegs get over after getting crap canned.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:02 PM ET
EK just posted that the Panthers are 75% to trade the pick to the Nuks
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:03 PM ET
Myers is an asset. Whats the return.. Murray has no ties to him..
- hafgod


I don't agree that Murray has no ties to him. He's on Murray's team. If he feels that way, and I doubt he does, he would get rid of Girgensons too.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:05 PM ET
It just makes no sense to me, they put in a cap to prevent teams from trying to buy the cup and now they put in rules so you can't take advantage of the draft. Not sure how many other ways there are to rebuild other than getting really luck on some lopsided trades.
- BigStew



There are thirty GM's that get paid much more handsomely than any of us to figure out a way. I'm not going to shed a tear for them. Do I want the Sabres to land McDavid next year? Of course, I do. However, this notion that the "only" way to build a championship team is with a set of top 5 picks is false. Eventually, that trend will stop.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:07 PM ET
Apologize if this has come up already but I don't wanna read the last 10 pages but the sabres have been in contact with Orpiks agent.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:07 PM ET
There are thirty GM's that get paid much more handsomely than any of us to figure out a way. I'm not going to shed a tear for them. Do I want the Sabres to land McDavid next year? Of course, I do. However, this notion that the "only" way to build a championship team is with a set of top 5 picks is false. Eventually, that trend will stop.
- buffalofan19


I'd agree with you, except no one wants to sign here. So now what?
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:07 PM ET
EK just posted that the Panthers are 75% to trade the pick to the Nuks
- SABRES 89



Sad to see, TM hasn't even made it to his first draft yet and already his plan is imploding all around him!


First the league takes away McEichel !?


And now Vancouver is climbing the mountain to take our guy !?!



WTF is next?!?

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:08 PM ET
Apologize if this has come up already but I don't wanna read the last 10 pages but the sabres have been in contact with Orpiks agent.
- Pegullaville


Actually this is news to me, do u have a link?
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:08 PM ET
Apologize if this has come up already but I don't wanna read the last 10 pages but the sabres have been in contact with Orpiks agent.
- Pegullaville


Nope, this is the first I heard of it.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:08 PM ET
I don't agree that Murray has no ties to him. He's on Murray's team. If he feels that way, and I doubt he does, he would get rid of Girgensons too.
- sippyd

no but its not a guy he drafted or traded for. girgensons fits the role of what murray said he wants. myers not sure. I am not a myers hater just saying if some made me a great offer I would move him I would move girgensons too. this team was horrendous last year. Everyone should be tradeable..
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:09 PM ET
Sad to see, TM hasn't even made it to his first draft yet and already his plan is imploding all around him!


First the league takes away McEichel !?


And now Vancouver is climbing the mountain to take our guy !?!



WTF is next?!?

aah:

- SuperCat


He'll take Ekblad or Bennett and not lose a minute of sleep over it
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