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MrSquirrel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:14 PM ET
The Islanders have the fifth pick in Friday's draft and, rather than going into draft weekend looking to add to their prospect pool as in years past, Islanders general manager Garth Snow is looking to trade that pick for NHL-ready talent after an unsuccessful season.

"We're open to trading the pick for someone we think can come in and help us right away," Snow said recently.

I will laugh my but off if Islanders move that pick when local buffalo forum experts said it was a dumb idea. If Islanders want to move that pick call them up and offer Myers, the guy is a loser.

Yes, Girgensons is a future captain.
Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY
Joined: 07.22.2006

Jun 26 @ 6:15 PM ET
I hate how Schoop twists callers words . To try and void their opinion.



- Maximum Signal


He's the worst. Takes the minority stance as a way to act like he's such a forward thinker. He's been brutal during the World Cup. Crapped on Olympic hockey as a way to make a point about how great WC is.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:19 PM ET
The Islanders have the fifth pick in Friday's draft and, rather than going into draft weekend looking to add to their prospect pool as in years past, Islanders general manager Garth Snow is looking to trade that pick for NHL-ready talent after an unsuccessful season.

"We're open to trading the pick for someone we think can come in and help us right away," Snow said recently.

I will laugh my but off if Islanders move that pick when local buffalo forum experts said it was a dumb idea. If Islanders want to move that pick call them up and offer Myers, the guy is a loser.

Yes, Girgensons is a future captain.

- MrSquirrel



If he's such a loser why on earth would the isles give up the 5th overall pick for him? Is that knowledge based on your 40 + years of watching Amerks games? (even though Myers didn't play a single game there).
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 26 @ 6:28 PM ET
Apple isn't for lemmings. It's for people who like seamless integration, and hardware/software that is designed in house. It has it's pros and cons just like anything else. Naturally I respect your opinion, regardless of what you prefer.

I do agree with your last comment however. Jobs was one in a million, and without him, Apple is surely set up to fail.

- sambarugh

How do you game and say this?
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 26 @ 6:37 PM ET
Looks like we're getting boned in in the 2015 draft and nobody is talking about it or complaining? I'm shocked
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:38 PM ET
Looks like we're getting boned in in the 2015 draft and nobody is talking about it or complaining? I'm shocked
- Homer



I think because there is the hope it won't affect the '15 draft.

Once news breaks that it will impact that draft, the poop will hit the commercial sized fan.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:38 PM ET
Looks like we're getting boned in in the 2015 draft and nobody is talking about it or complaining? I'm shocked
- Homer



Won't take effect till after 2015 draft according to Tim
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:38 PM ET
Looks like we're getting boned in in the 2015 draft and nobody is talking about it or complaining? I'm shocked
- Homer


I'm just so used to it at this point.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 6:39 PM ET
Looks like we're getting boned in in the 2015 draft and nobody is talking about it or complaining? I'm shocked
- Homer

How? We have three picks in the 1st round. How exactly are we getting screwed in a season that hasn't even started
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 26 @ 6:40 PM ET
Won't take effect till after 2015 draft according to Tim
- Sabresfan-365


Who is Tim? WGR is reporting it will affect next year's draft. Well they are reporting that people are reporting that anyway.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 26 @ 6:41 PM ET
The Islanders have the fifth pick in Friday's draft and, rather than going into draft weekend looking to add to their prospect pool as in years past, Islanders general manager Garth Snow is looking to trade that pick for NHL-ready talent after an unsuccessful season.

"We're open to trading the pick for someone we think can come in and help us right away," Snow said recently.

I will laugh my but off if Islanders move that pick when local buffalo forum experts said it was a dumb idea. If Islanders want to move that pick call them up and offer Myers, the guy is a loser.

Yes, Girgensons is a future captain.

- MrSquirrel

So if Myers is a loser, then why would the Islanders trade the 5th overall for him?





Girgensons
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 26 @ 6:41 PM ET
How? We have three picks in the 1st round. How exactly are we getting screwed in a season that hasn't even started
- Smittyx36


because the last place team will now have even less of a shot at #1, and can move as far down as #6, not just #2. That's what they are saying anyway.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:42 PM ET
Who is Tim? WGR is reporting it will affect next year's draft. Well they are reporting that people are reporting that anyway.
- Homer



1)Tim Murray...the GM


2) I'll take TSN's word over WGR

3) It's really only a big deal if you think this teams success is solely based on drafting McDavid/Eichel, which I really don't believe is the case.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 26 @ 6:44 PM ET
1)Tim Murray...the GM


2) I'll take TSN's word over WGR

3) It's really only a big deal if you think this teams success is solely based on drafting McDavid/Eichel, which I really don't believe is the case.

- Sabresfan-365


When did Murray say this? I've been away from radio for about an hour.

2. So would I.

3. It had a lot to do with their success going forward, IMO.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 6:45 PM ET
because the last place team will now have even less of a shot at #1, and can move as far down as #6, not just #2. That's what they are saying anyway.
- Homer

lame sauce. Makes sense they don't wanna guarantee the worst team a top 1-2 pick. They wanna make it more fair i guess. it does kinda make sense... just sucks because it impacts are team the most
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:46 PM ET
When did Murray say this? I've been away from radio for about an hour.

2. So would I.

3. It had a lot to do with their success going forward, IMO.

- Homer



Murray had said this a while ago, not today. I'm not going to worry about it until there is confirmation that it affects the 2015 draft.

A new lottery system for 2016 going forward is the most ideal system. I'm all about a system that at least tries to get away from rewarding failure as much as possible.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 6:47 PM ET
1)Tim Murray...the GM


2) I'll take TSN's word over WGR

3) It's really only a big deal if you think this teams success is solely based on drafting McDavid/Eichel, which I really don't believe is the case.

- Sabresfan-365

THIS! We are set up with picks and prospects to compete with the best if are guys turn out. We don't solely need one of those two to be a top team.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:47 PM ET
When did Murray say this? I've been away from radio for about an hour.

2. So would I.

3. It had a lot to do with their success going forward, IMO.

- Homer


He said to Pierre Lebrun a while back.

You don't absolutely have to have McDavid/Eichel to be a contender. Plenty of other options and with three 1st rounders they'll be fine.

Any mock lineup I've envisioned for this team as contender has been sans McDavid/Eichel and I think it still looks favourable for us.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 26 @ 6:48 PM ET
He said to Pierre Lebrun a while back.

You don't absolutely have to have McDavid/Eichel to be a contender. Plenty of other options and with three 1st rounders they'll be fine.

Any mock lineup I've envisioned for this team as contender has been sans McDavid/Eichel and I think it still looks favourable for us.

- Sabresfan-365


Right, but today it just got approved and I see nowhere that it wont affect next years draft. Even on TSN
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 26 @ 6:48 PM ET
Murray had said this a while ago, not today. I'm not going to worry about it until there is confirmation that it affects the 2015 draft.

A new lottery system for 2016 going forward is the most ideal system. I'm all about a system that at least tries to get away from rewarding failure as much as possible.

- buffalofan19



Until you realize Toronto, Montreal,
Pland Boston get all the picks
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:51 PM ET
Right, but today it just got approved and I see nowhere that it wont affect next years draft. Even on TSN
- Homer



Current TSN article mentions that they'l compress the odds in 2015 and then add more lottery selections in the 16 draft.

I can't imagine that the compression will even be that significant, otherwise I don't think it would be approved by the board.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 26 @ 6:52 PM ET
Right, but today it just got approved and I see nowhere that it wont affect next years draft. Even on TSN
- Homer



The NHLPA still has to approve it though, who knows what their thinking on it could be, they could just say no to just pi$$ off the owners
Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY
Joined: 07.22.2006

Jun 26 @ 6:55 PM ET
Right, but today it just got approved and I see nowhere that it wont affect next years draft. Even on TSN
- Homer


It's baffling that a league this big would make a decision based on votes by teams who are only looking at their current situation. Any changes should be for 3+ years down the road.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 26 @ 6:57 PM ET
@DamoSpin 48m DamienCox
Folks in BUFF may be upset about proposed draft lottery changes, but any league that puts in anti-tanking legislation should be applauded.

wiener, when his Leafs lose out to a generational talent he won't be so preachy
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 7:00 PM ET
@DamoSpin 48m DamienCox
Folks in BUFF may be upset about proposed draft lottery changes, but any league that puts in anti-tanking legislation should be applauded.

wiener, when his Leafs lose out to a generational talent he won't be so preachy

- GilPerreault11



He hates the leafs just as much


The statement's not even accurate. The rule change for 2015 is that the odds will be "compressed" I'm guessing instead of worst team having 25% it will now have like 19 or 20.

Even if that's the case, finishing dead last still guarantees you Eichel, the real change comes in 2016 when they introduce the extra lottery.


Edit: source http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455770

"The league has proposed smoothing or compressing the odds among the 14 non-playoff teams for the 2015 draft and then increasing the number of selections determined by the lottery in 2016."
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