Ed Snider will have Ekbad

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- Tomahawk

Whoa! That's crazy. I still have my old Nintendo system buried in my basement. I was tempted to hook it up a few weeks ago. I wanted to see Bald Bull on a 70" high def screen.

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 8s

It's believed Kane-Toews initial ask of CHI on extension is around $12M/yr each. They'll end up lower but still could be $10M+ AAV players.


- Streit2ThePoint

See, there it is -- what Pat Riley called "The Disease of Me," 30 years ago. You forget what got you your success: talent +depth + hunger, and instead believe that it was all about you and what you did, not what the team did.

I am sure you are right VL would have to be moved. But even a player like Grossman and his 3.5M. Can you move him and replace him was a player like Clayton Stoner from the Wild. He is a big body who can play 5-6 and could be probably had for a modest raise...2-2.5M
- 3flyerkids

Clayton Stoner isn't half the player that Grossmann is. That would be a mistake in my opinion.

Yeah, his tradeability begins to peak July 2, 2015. Only $8.5M owed to him over 3-years then.
- Tomahawk

Where does that $2 mil bonus show on the cap if we trade him after paying it? Does it not affect our cap at all?

Whoa! That's crazy. I still have my old Nintendo system buried in my basement. I was tempted to hook it up a few weeks ago. I wanted to see Bald Bull on a 70" high def screen.
- PLindbergh31

I played 2012 using an NES emulator on my phone -- really fun.

See, there it is -- what Pat Riley called "The Disease of Me," 30 years ago. You forget what got you your success: talent +depth + hunger, and instead believe that it was all about you and what you did, not what the team did.
- AllInForFlyers

10 mil they deserve

I played 2012 using an NES emulator on my phone -- really fun.
- Tomahawk

Geez. I'm not nearly that tech savvy. I'm lucky if I can connect to the internet/send emails from my phone.

See, there it is -- what Pat Riley called "The Disease of Me," 30 years ago. You forget what got you your success: talent +depth + hunger, and instead believe that it was all about you and what you did, not what the team did.
- AllInForFlyers

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 6m

Many agents believe cap could be as high as $75M for 2015-16, continue to escalate rapidly. Double digit AAV for superstars may be new norm.

Where does that $2 mil bonus show on the cap if we trade him after paying it? Does it not affect our cap at all?
- vipeviper

It would not affect the Flyers Cap if he is traded after paying it.

Clayton Stoner isn't half the player that Grossmann is. That would be a mistake in my opinion.
- MJL

great hockey name though

10 mil they deserve
- Just5

toes yes, kane ok I guess he does too

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 6m

Many agents believe cap could be as high as $75M for 2015-16, continue to escalate rapidly. Double digit AAV for superstars may be new norm.


- Streit2ThePoint

Good thing Holmgren got promoted. He would have been paying third pairing dmen 7 mil per season.

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 6m

Many agents believe cap could be as high as $75M for 2015-16, continue to escalate rapidly. Double digit AAV for superstars may be new norm.


- Streit2ThePoint

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie · 1m ·

It's believed Kane-Toews initial ask of CHI on extension is around $12M/yr each. They'll end up lower but still could be $10M+ AAV players.

Good thing Holmgren got promoted. He would have been paying third pairing dmen 7 mil per season.
- PLindbergh31

It depends on your definition of third pairing dmen..

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie · 1m ·

It's believed Kane-Toews initial ask of CHI on extension is around $12M/yr each. They'll end up lower but still could be $10M+ AAV players.
- BulliesPhan87

uhh... yeah, this is awkward.

Way leight.

uhh... yeah, this is awkward.

Way leight.
- jak521

don't you talk to me in that tone of voice

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie · 1m ·

It's believed Kane-Toews initial ask of CHI on extension is around $12M/yr each. They'll end up lower but still could be $10M+ AAV players.
- BulliesPhan87

Good for them. I guess they want to be the complete focus of the team and be surrounded by AHLers.

It depends on your definition of third pairing dmen..
- jak521

Clayton Stoner isn't half the player that Grossmann is. That would be a mistake in my opinion.
- MJL

Not much difference IMO and if you can save a few bucks to add someone else to become stronger all round... He is an option, not saying he is great but if he comes a 1.5 cheaper to play 5-6, i would do it

Not much difference IMO and if you can save a few bucks to add someone else to become stronger all round... He is an option, not saying he is great but if he comes a 1.5 cheaper to play 5-6, i would do it
- 3flyerkids

Stoner is about as replacement-level as it gets... Lauridsen or Alt could come in and give you the same level of play for less.

10 mil they deserve
- Just5

Deserve is relative, is what Riley said, and i believe it for this reason: Just say you pay them 10 million each, 20 total. And the cap is, say, 80 million. That seems like a number we could get to.

So those two players, elite they may be, are takng 25 perecent of the available salary. But they're not doing 25 percent of the work for the whole team. Offense, defense, special teams, goaltending. All the things they do for the team, even though they do a lot, isn't commensurate to that kind of percentage on the cap.

It's unfortunate, because salaries will certainly rise of players around the league. But what Chicago will find is that paying those two that much would lessen the quality of the roster overall, in a capped league.

Take less so you can win more.

- PLindbergh31

Just because MacD may play on the third pair doesn't make him your typical third pairing defenseman.

Flyers spread the wealth on thier blue line, I would label thier Dmen as follows.

Coburn(1)-Timonen(4)
Streit(2)-Grossmann(5)
MacD(3)-Schenn(6)

Stoner is about as replacement-level as it gets... Lauridsen or Alt could come in and give you the same level of play for less.
- Tomahawk

And Lauridsen has a 600K cap hit.

Deserve is relative, is what Riley said, and i believe it for this reason: Just say you pay them 10 million each, 20 total. And the cap is, say, 80 million. That seems like a number we could get to.

So those two players, elite they may be, are takng 25 perecent of the available salary. But they're not doing 25 percent of the work for the whole team. Offense, defense, special teams, goaltending. All the things they do for the team, even though they do a lot, isn't commensurate to that kind of percentage on the cap.

It's unfortunate, because salaries will certainly rise of players around the league. But what Chicago will find is that paying those two that much would lessen the quality of the roster overall, in a capped league.

Take less so you can win more.
- AllInForFlyers

They've already won though. Twice. While playing on extra team friendly contracts. Show me the money if im them