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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
correct me if Iamwrong, but haven't his shootout numbers been pretty pedestrian the past few seasons?
- jak521




Yeah. I would much rather invest in Mason raymond. Might be same money or less and can do same things. And pull the spin-a-roma out for the Flyers in shootouts.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
correct me if Iamwrong, but haven't his shootout numbers been pretty pedestrian the past few seasons?
- jak521

They haven't been as strong, but I think he would have the top percentage on the team, up there with Read.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
I know them enough to know they're terrible, will remain terrible, have an amazingly horrible history of developing high picks outside of Iverson, and that, as much as I hate soccer, I find The Union to be far most interesting. It's about time for them to go find an $8M guy to sit out a season, draft a bust, and just hope for next year.
- jmatchett383

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 26 @ 9:40 AM ET
I've been to a few games (2 last year), whenever I can get free tickets. It's cold, it's crowded, the seats are hard and have no leg room, the food's overpriced, the tickets are WAY overpriced, and parking is both expensive and a traffic nightmare both in and out.

I'll have my friends over, drink with them in my nice warm house, sit in a nice comfy chair with lots of leg room, let them drive home with relative ease after the game, all for about $10 including food and drink.

I understand the atmosphere and all, but it's such a pain in the ass and just not enjoyable in general.

- jmatchett383


Football is TAILOR MADE for television. I never have any desire to actually go to a football game.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 9:46 AM ET
Football is TAYLOR MADE for television. I never have any desire to actually go to a football game.
- MBFlyerfan


Agreed

I'd much rather watch the Eagles on my 50" hi def TV, drinking fine scotch or a good microbrew.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:48 AM ET
Agreed

I'd much rather watch the Eagles on my 50" hi def TV, drinking fine scotch or a good microbrew.

- BiggE



johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
Agreed

I'd much rather watch the Eagles on Duval Street, while scantily clad women have their breasts painted.

- BiggE


Fixed for Key West.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:04 AM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 58s
Lecavalier's agent, Kent Hughes has permission to speak to teams re: trade. Vinny gets a $2 mil bonus on July 1, so trade before is tough.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:06 AM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 58s
Lecavalier's agent, Kent Hughes has permission to speak to teams re: trade. Vinny gets a $2 mil bonus on July 1, so trade before is tough.

- PLindbergh31


couldn't the flyers agree to pay that bonus regardless of before or after July 1?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:08 AM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 58s
Lecavalier's agent, Kent Hughes has permission to speak to teams re: trade. Vinny gets a $2 mil bonus on July 1, so trade before is tough.

- PLindbergh31

Did not know about the bonus!
This keeps my hopes alive for a trade after 7/1.

Your football team could be the Idaho Giant Potatos after the move.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:09 AM ET
couldn't the flyers agree to pay that bonus regardless of before or after July 1?
- flyersfan51

They could at least put a deal in place and agree to wait until the dollars are paid to pull the trigger.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:09 AM ET
They could at least put a deal in place and agree to wait until the dollars are paid to pull the trigger.
- BulliesPhan87


i only say this because i would like them to get a pick in the draft friday.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:10 AM ET
Fixed for Key West.
- johndewar

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:11 AM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 58s
Lecavalier's agent, Kent Hughes has permission to speak to teams re: trade. Vinny gets a $2 mil bonus on July 1, so trade before is tough.

- PLindbergh31


That's cool. Swap him on July 2nd for a 2015 pick and I'm happy!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:11 AM ET
couldn't the flyers agree to pay that bonus regardless of before or after July 1?
- flyersfan51


I have no clue what this 2 million dollar bonus is.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:14 AM ET
That's cool. Swap him on July 2nd for a 2015 pick and I'm happy!
- BiggE

swap him and not have to take back a bad contract or throw in a Philly draft pick and call it a very good day
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:14 AM ET
I have no clue what this 2 million dollar bonus is.
- PLindbergh31


Performance?
signing bonus installment?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:14 AM ET
Football is TAYLOR MADE for television. I never have any desire to actually go to a football game.
- MBFlyerfan



Football is only tailor made for TV because they can cram like 86 commercials between each stoppage... not because it's any more entertaining on TV than in person. If you're at home, you basically spend 3/4 of the actual game broadcast listening to some analyst huffing over three angles of each replay... maybe 10 minutes is actual gameplay. The rest is commercial after commercial after commercial.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:16 AM ET
Performance?
signing bonus installment?

- nails



Signing bonus... like that poop they gave out to Weber in the poison pill.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:16 AM ET
Performance?
signing bonus installment?

- nails


I don't know. I'm trying to look into it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 10:17 AM ET
I have no clue what this 2 million dollar bonus is.
- PLindbergh31


http://capgeek.com/player/884

$2m of his $6m salary for 14-15 is due to be paid in a signing bonus. And now we know it's due to be paid on July, 1st.

As of July 2nd, Vinny will only be owed $14.5 million over four seasons, or $3.625m in salary per season.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:18 AM ET
Football is only tailor made for TV because they can cram like 86 commercials between each stoppage... not because it's any more entertaining on TV than in person. If you're at home, you basically spend 3/4 of the actual game broadcast listening to some analyst huffing over three angles of each replay... maybe 10 minutes is actual gameplay. The rest is commercial after commercial after commercial.


- Tomahawk


When you watch football at home, you can play video games at halftime. That's huge.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:18 AM ET
Football is only tailor made for TV because they can cram like 86 commercials between each stoppage... not because it's any more entertaining on TV than in person. If you're at home, you basically spend 3/4 of the actual game broadcast listening to some analyst huffing over three angles of each replay... maybe 10 minutes is actual gameplay. The rest is commercial after commercial after commercial.


- Tomahawk


Nonsense. When you are there you only get ten minutes of actual game play. The rest of the time you are freezing your ass off with a bunch of drunks you cant stand. It is way more entertaining on TV. Not even close.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:18 AM ET
They haven't been as strong, but I think he would have the top percentage on the team, up there with Read.
- Deasr1



He had one move... skate down the right side, stutter step in the slot, deke backhand or forehand... once goalies learned not to go down on the stutter, the magic was gone.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:19 AM ET
When you watch football at home, you can play video games at halftime. That's huge.
- PLindbergh31


couldn't have said it better myself.
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