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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:35 PM ET
He wants to go somewhere where they'll guarantee him top 6 minutes...according to the interwebs
- Jsaquella

Nashville. Book that poop
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:37 PM ET
He wants to go somewhere where they'll guarantee him top 6 minutes...according to the interwebs
- Jsaquella


Having the chance to play with St. Louis could be very enticing. If a team can guarantee team basically a second line center role, he is waving.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:37 PM ET
Nashville. Book that poop
- Giroux_Is_God

i hope theyre smarter than that. i cant think of any egregious contracts on nashville to send back.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Nashville. Book that poop
- Giroux_Is_God

Definitely. Possibly the Panthers as well. But Nashville has to be out front.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:39 PM ET
Having the chance to play with St. Louis could be very enticing. If a team can guarantee team basically a second line center role, he is waving.
- ravishingone

i just cant see how taking on that contract could be a positive move for a team. unless like people have suggested, you just want to hit the cap floor. and his real life dollars are favorable to that end.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
i agree the downside of having to acquire both of those guys through assets. if their teams are expecting a ransom, id back away from the table for sure. but to me at least, both of those players are still significantly better than vinny all things considered.
- stayinthefnnet


No doubt Kesler and Spezza are much better. However, they'll be expected to play larger roles on their new teams to justify such an investment in relation to the assets traded and contract extension commitment. Buying Vinny with a lower cap hit comes with the expectation of less responsibilities.

The Flyers won't get much for him, but that is definitely okay.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
i hope theyre smarter than that. i cant think of any egregious contracts on nashville to send back.
- stayinthefnnet

I hear Josi's contract is pretty egregious

I mean you never know. Maybe they want offense that badly?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:44 PM ET
No doubt Kesler and Spezza are much better. However, they'll be expected to play larger roles on their new teams to justify such an investment in relation to the assets traded and contract extension commitment. Buying Vinny with a lower cap hit comes with the expectation of less responsibilities.

The Flyers won't get much for him, but that is definitely okay.

- ravishingone

even if all the team had to give up was a 7th rounder and a puck, if youre a team that is actually cap cognizant and not just trying to reach the floor, i just cant see how it isnt a detriment. in the best case scenario, its still a big, big risk.

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:48 PM ET
even if all the team had to give up was a 7th rounder and a puck, if youre a team that is actually cap cognizant and not just trying to reach the floor, i just cant see how it isnt a detriment. in the best case scenario, its still a big, big risk.
- stayinthefnnet


Sorry, Pens fan, you just have to come to terms that the Flyers are moving Vinny and getting some salary cap relief from the transaction or reduction in the amount of years that cap number will count.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:50 PM ET
eklund said deals already done, NHL wants to announce them at the draft

Evander Kane is a Flyer
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:52 PM ET
eklund said deals already done, NHL wants to announce them at the draft

Evander Kane is a Flyer

- Winning

Let's see the tweet then, big guy
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:52 PM ET
Sorry, Pens fan, you just have to come to terms that the Flyers are moving Vinny and getting some salary cap relief from the transaction or reduction in the amount of years that cap number will count.

- ravishingone

haha ugh i know. Hexy seems like a man on a mission, and he isnt (frank)ing around. He is just identifying dead wood and chopping it. Good for him.

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:53 PM ET
eklund said deals already done, NHL wants to announce them at the draft

Evander Kane is a Flyer

- Winning

no (frank)ing way!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:54 PM ET
no (frank)ing way!
- stayinthefnnet

Here's the thing.

I don't believe anything he says. Unless proof surfaces, obviously.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:55 PM ET
no (frank)ing way!
- stayinthefnnet


Kane-G-Voracek
Read-Coots-Simmonds

Not a bad top 6.



stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:00 PM ET
Kane-G-Voracek
Read-Coots-Simmonds

Not a bad top 6.




- ravishingone

not bad at all. phenomenal actually. you better have to give up something more than b schenn though.

if thats the crew you ahve though, i move up simmonds and create the checkers line and have jake on the second
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:01 PM ET
not bad at all. phenomenal actually. you better have to give up something more than b schenn though.

if thats the crew you ahve though, i move up simmonds and create the checkers line and have jake on the second

- stayinthefnnet

I agree.

That being said, let's all relax. Kane is not a Flyer.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:03 PM ET
I agree.

That being said, let's all relax. Kane is not a Flyer.

- Giroux_Is_God

my sources say otherwise
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:03 PM ET
not bad at all. phenomenal actually. you better have to give up something more than b schenn though.

if thats the crew you ahve though, i move up simmonds and create the checkers line and have jake on the second

- stayinthefnnet


I would be very surprised if they go high ticket at forward. However, a guy like Kane is such a unique talent, that this roster doesn't have on right now. I still think there will be major remodeling on the blueline, really have no idea where he goes.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:05 PM ET
I would be very surprised if they go high ticket at forward. However, a guy like Kane is such a unique talent, that this roster doesn't have on right now. I still think there will be major remodeling on the blueline, really have no idea where he goes.
- ravishingone

i think hexy understands the importance of the blueline. and would definitely rather aim his efforts there rather than the forwards. the flyers can score. however, there really arent many appealing options to sign. and trading for one and keeping the young core together are very much conflicting ideals
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:06 PM ET
my sources say otherwise
- Winning

right
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:07 PM ET
sad news about gino odjick...hopefully he can find a way to beat his illness.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:09 PM ET
i think hexy understands the importance of the blueline. and would definitely rather aim his efforts there rather than the forwards. the flyers can score. however, there really arent many appealing options to sign. and trading for one and keeping the young core together are very much conflicting ideals
- stayinthefnnet


The only way they deal B. Schenn if they project Laughton to be that pesky, checking center on the third line over the next two years. In general, I do expect some fireworks throughout the league at the draft.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:14 PM ET
The only way they deal B. Schenn if they project Laughton to be that pesky, checking center on the third line over the next two years. In general, I do expect some fireworks throughout the league at the draft.
- ravishingone


It'd be kind of a low budget show without fireworks.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:14 PM ET
The only way they deal B. Schenn if they project Laughton to be that pesky, checking center on the third line over the next two years. In general, I do expect some fireworks throughout the league at the draft.
- ravishingone

hopefully there are some good trades, because free agency is kind of mundane anymore.

i think laughton can do that fine. schenn is a decent player, but i still think the ultimate answer should try to package him for a defender.
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