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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
I know what he meant, what else could he mean?

I'm gonna throw out some thoughts on our defense if I may.

There seems to be a lot of worry surround Kimmo Timonen. You wanted him back but now that he's signed for less, you expect a lesser role for him. I don't agree with this. I believe Kimmo Timonen the player took a pay cut for a chance at winning a Stanley Cup. He gave the team cap flexibility so that his dream could come true. This has nothing to do with his role or how old he is. If the Flyers didn't want him back, he wouldn't be here. If Timonen didn't want to come back, he wouldn't be here. As long as Timonen is playing on our top pair, starting on the Power Play and starting the Penalty Kill, he's our number one. I think he should be allowed to be our number one defenseman until he proves he can't do it anymore. It's an 82 game schedule. Could Kimmo Timonen role change this season? Absolutely! Scott Hartnell was apart of that pretty consistent number one Power Play unit for the past 3 seasons but now he's moved on. Mark Streit is our best offensive defenseman, so I would expect adjustments. It doesn't mean Kimmo Timonen and Brayden Coburn will be split up. It doesn't mean Timonen won't continue to see the toughest opponents on the other team's top line. The only thing that's changed for Timonen is he's one year old and he's getting paid less. He should do what he does until he proves he can't do it anymore.

As for our defense as a whole, I'm not sure it should be looked at as a numbers game or a depth chart. I don't want to say we have an odd collection of desensemen but we don't have a great balance. However, we do have an NHL caliber defense and the Flyers seem to make it work. I wouldn't go as far as underrate it, especially by number each defenseman.

If I did number each defenseman, Streit wouldn't be number 2 on the depth chart and Timonen would not be 4th.

- SuperSchennBros


tldr
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
Here is where the flaw is. Call him a 3rd liner all you want. Only Giroux and Couturier play more per game then Read does, among forwards. Both in total icetime per game, and in ES icetime per game.
- MJL


The notion that only Giroux and Couturier play more than Read is a fault in itself.

Ice time distribution was laughable in the playoffs. Berube'd.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
5 guaranteed locks for the NHL draft

1. Bettman will be booed, loudly and often

2. Maguire will go on and on ad nauseum on how amazing and wonderful each prospect is, he will then inform you where they attended kindergarten, the age at which they were potty trained and how each one can't wait to meet Sidney Crosby

3. Someone will get traded to somewhere else, this may actually happen more than once.

4. Each and every GM will go on and on ad nauseum about how fortunate they were to able to select the exact guy who they were hoping to choose. Most will then go on to trade this "dream" player at some point during the next 5 years.

5. No matter what the Flyers do, Tim Panaccio will only have negative things to say about it. He will also go on to insist that Shea Weber would be a Flyer right now if and only if, they had been willing to trade Morin. Oh, and he will squint a lot too!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:36 PM ET
Is our football team the Iggles?
- Doc_Sarcasm

No it is not. That annoys me too.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:36 PM ET
What did I miss?


(welcome back)

- mayorofangrytown


A creeping sense of malaise and general mayhem
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
No it is not. That annoys me too.
- Giroux_Is_God


Apparently, all of our teams are known as "Ill."
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
5 guaranteed locks for the NHL draft

1. Bettman will be booed, loudly and often

2. Maguire will go on and on ad nauseum on how amazing and wonderful each prospect is, he will then inform you where they attended kindergarten, the age at which they were potty trained and how each one can't wait to meet Sidney Crosby

3. Someone will get traded to somewhere else, this may actually happen more than once.

4. Each and every GM will go on and on ad nauseum about how fortunate they were to able to select the exact guy who they were hoping to choose. Most will then go on to trade this "dream" player at some point during the next 5 years.

5. No matter what the Flyers do, Tim Panaccio will only have negative things to say about it. He will also go on to insist that Shea Weber would be a Flyer right now if and only if, they had been willing to trade Morin. Oh, and he will squint a lot too!

- BiggE


When is the damn draft anyway? This weekend? Day 5 out of an 8 day work stretch. Oblivious to the world.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
A creeping sense of malaise and general mayhem
- BiggE

DOGS
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
When is the damn draft anyway? This weekend? Day 5 out of an 8 day work stretch. Oblivious to the world.
- flyer_nutter


Round 1 tomorrow night, Rounds 2-7 Saturday 10 AM
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
DOGS
- Giroux_Is_God


Cats > Dogs > terrorists
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:39 PM ET
Apparently, all of our teams are known as "Ill."
- jmatchett383

We're going from bad to worse here Jmatch don't get me into full on rage mode I was doing so good
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 26 @ 5:40 PM ET
No it is not. That annoys me too.
- Giroux_Is_God


I was less than amused when during the BC/Union game at the Frozen Four, Lou Nolan introduced BC as the Boston College "Iggles".
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:40 PM ET
DOGS
- Giroux_Is_God



Got to admit, I'm a little bit confused
sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise
if I don't stand my own ground, how will I find my way out of this maze?

Damn, I love that song!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:40 PM ET
Cats > Dogs > terrorists
- jmatchett383

Gotta stay awake gotta try and shake off
This creeping malaise
If I don't stand my own ground
How can I find my way out of this maze?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:40 PM ET
We're going from bad to worse here Jmatch don't get me into full on rage mode I was doing so good
- Giroux_Is_God

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 26 @ 5:41 PM ET
Round 1 tomorrow night, Rounds 2-7 Saturday 10 AM
- jmatchett383


Cool thanks.

I hope they do absolutely nothing except unload Wheels and trade at their designated spot. Keep it calm.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:41 PM ET
Gotta stay awake gotta try and shake off
This creeping malaise
If I don't stand my own ground
How can I find my way out of this maze?

- Giroux_Is_God



Dude, get out of my head!!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:41 PM ET
Cool thanks.

I hope they do absolutely nothing except unload Wheels and trade at their designated spot. Keep it calm.

- flyer_nutter


Works for me!!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:41 PM ET


Got to admit, I'm a little bit confused
sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise
if I don't stand my own ground, how will I find my way out of this maze?

Damn, I love that song!

- BiggE

His wailing guitar is sexy as (frank) in that song
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
All right miscreants, I'm off to band practice

Later!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
His wailing guitar is sexy as (frank) in that song
- Giroux_Is_God

aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
5 guaranteed locks for the NHL draft

1. Bettman will be booed, loudly and often

2. Maguire will go on and on ad nauseum on how amazing and wonderful each prospect is, he will then inform you where they attended kindergarten, the age at which they were potty trained and how each one can't wait to meet Sidney Crosby

3. Someone will get traded to somewhere else, this may actually happen more than once.

4. Each and every GM will go on and on ad nauseum about how fortunate they were to able to select the exact guy who they were hoping to choose. Most will then go on to trade this "dream" player at some point during the next 5 years.

5. No matter what the Flyers do, Tim Panaccio will only have negative things to say about it. He will also go on to insist that Shea Weber would be a Flyer right now if and only if, they had been willing to trade Morin. Oh, and he will squint a lot too!

- BiggE


Still waiting for the GM who says, "The guy I really wanted was picked a few spots earlier. This guy is ok, I guess..."
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:43 PM ET
tldr
- jmatchett383

??
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:44 PM ET
i like screaming
- mayorofangrytown


Stop. Aightwebang may be watching.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 26 @ 5:44 PM ET
Still waiting for the GM who says, "The guy I really wanted was picked a few spots earlier. This guy is ok, I guess..."
- aflyerpower8



That would only happen in a movie... think, "Liar, Liar".
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