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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 4:59 PM ET
Is it a "creek" or a "crick??
- jmatchett383

We're in D'town not Lancaster it's still creek.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
Where are you going to get a better 2C than Brassard for less than $3.7 million?
- Feanor


A guy like Grabovski ($3M) will be out there again this summer... or get a younger/cheaper C in return for Brassard.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
Where are you going to get a better 2C than Brassard for less than $3.7 million?
- Feanor


That's a good question -- hell, they shouldn't have him in the first place, because Howson overpaid for Gaborik and Columbus just threw assets at the Rags
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
Here is where the flaw is. Call him a 3rd liner all you want. Only Giroux and Couturier play more per game then Read does. Both in total icetime per game, and in ES icetime per game.
- MJL


Okay. He's still a bottom-9 winger in my opinion. But you can throw him out there in any situation, whether defending a lead or needing a goal and he'll give you a shot, where as most players will get sparser time given the particular situation.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
A guy like Grabovski ($3M) will be out there again this summer... or get a younger/cheaper C in return for Brassard.
- Tomahawk


Vinny at 50%.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
A guy like Grabovski ($3M) will be out there again this summer... or get a younger/cheaper C in return for Brassard.
- Tomahawk


GRABOVSKI? ZOMG HE SUCKS!

/Steve Simmons
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
GRABOVSKI? ZOMG HE SUCKS!

/Steve Simmons

- johndewar


That entire exchange was kind of juvenile... was like somebody reading HB out loud. But damn did he pounce there.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
I have bad feeling Big Buff and Kane will be Flyers tomorrow
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
Okay. He's still a bottom-9 winger in my opinion. But you can throw him out there in any situation, whether defending a lead or needing a goal and he'll give you a shot, where as most players will get sparser time given the particular situation.
- jmatchett383


I think the amount of ice time he gets shows how important of a player he is to the team. And the fact that he puts up the number of goals and points that he does, with the match ups and starts that he gets, along with little PP time. Shows how valuable, and how good of a player he is. I don't think he'd be an ideal first line Winger, but right now, he's as good a choice as any, with the current makeup of the team. On the flip side, I don't disagree with anyone who says they don't want to change his role because of how effective he is in it. That's hard to argue against.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
That entire exchange was kind of juvenile... was like somebody reading HB out loud. But damn did he pounce there.
- Tomahawk


It was like someone did sketch comedy of what WIP would be like if it were in Canada.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
I have bad feeling Big Buff and Kane will be Flyers tomorrow
- Winning


where is the 10 mil in cap sapce coming from?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
where is the 10 mil in cap sapce coming from?
- mydoglicks

Traded players going back
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:07 PM ET
where is the 10 mil in cap sapce coming from?
- mydoglicks

The other 10 guys going back to Winnipeg
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
I think the amount of ice time he gets shows how important of a player he is to the team. And the fact that he puts up the number of goals and points that he does, with the match ups and starts that he gets, along with little PP time. Shows how valuable, and how good of a player he is. I don't think he'd be an ideal first line Winger, but right now, he's as good a choice as any, with the current makeup of the team. On the flip side, I don't disagree with anyone who says they don't want to change his role because of how effective he is in it. That's hard to argue against.
- MJL


Absolutely.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
I have bad feeling Big Buff and Kane will be Flyers tomorrow
- Winning

No, that's the clap. Get some cream.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
No, that's the clap. Get some cream.
- Deasr1


hahahaha post of the day
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
It was like someone did sketch comedy of what WIP would be like if it were in Canada.
- johndewar



Was really embarrassed for both of them... in a perfect world, internet spats would stay on the internet.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
I have bad feeling Big Buff and Kane will be Flyers tomorrow
- Winning

Even if they replace VL and say grossman?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:19 PM ET
Even if they replace VL and say grossman?
- nails


Only if they include Trouba
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 5:21 PM ET
Was really embarrassed for both of them... in a perfect world, internet spats would stay on the internet.
- Tomahawk

What did I miss?


(welcome back)
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:26 PM ET
What did I miss?


(welcome back)

- mayorofangrytown


LOTS OF SCREAMING!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 5:28 PM ET
LOTS OF SCREAMING!
- PhillySportsGuy

i like screaming
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:28 PM ET
We're in D'town not Lancaster it's still creek.
- mayorofangrytown

Dude (frank) "crick"

Is the bug a "bittle"?

Is another name for a road a "strit"?

Do you " bip" a horn?

Mother(frank).
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
Dude (frank) "crick"

Is the bug a "bittle"?

Is another name for a road a "strit"?

Do you " bip" a horn?

Mother(frank).

- Giroux_Is_God



Is our football team the Iggles?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:32 PM ET
Maybe he meant in terms of where they land on our depth chart?
- Tomahawk

I know what he meant, what else could he mean?

I'm gonna throw out some thoughts on our defense if I may.

There seems to be a lot of worry surround Kimmo Timonen. You wanted him back but now that he's signed for less, you expect a lesser role for him. I don't agree with this. I believe Kimmo Timonen the player took a pay cut for a chance at winning a Stanley Cup. He gave the team cap flexibility so that his dream could come true. This has nothing to do with his role or how old he is. If the Flyers didn't want him back, he wouldn't be here. If Timonen didn't want to come back, he wouldn't be here. As long as Timonen is playing on our top pair, starting on the Power Play and starting the Penalty Kill, he's our number one. I think he should be allowed to be our number one defenseman until he proves he can't do it anymore. It's an 82 game schedule. Could Kimmo Timonen role change this season? Absolutely! Scott Hartnell was apart of that pretty consistent number one Power Play unit for the past 3 seasons but now he's moved on. Mark Streit is our best offensive defenseman, so I would expect adjustments. It doesn't mean Kimmo Timonen and Brayden Coburn will be split up. It doesn't mean Timonen won't continue to see the toughest opponents on the other team's top line. The only thing that's changed for Timonen is he's one year old and he's getting paid less. He should do what he does until he proves he can't do it anymore.

As for our defense as a whole, I'm not sure it should be looked at as a numbers game or a depth chart. I don't want to say we have an odd collection of desensemen but we don't have a great balance. However, we do have an NHL caliber defense and the Flyers seem to make it work. I wouldn't go as far as underrate it, especially by numbering each defenseman.

If I did number each defenseman, Streit wouldn't be number 2 on the depth chart and Timonen would not be 4th.
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