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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:18 PM ET
A's are strongly dependent on linemates' ability to finish... plus all three guys are primarily shooters, so to compare them through goals seems pretty fair.

Defense is the other area where Vinny doesn't measure up to the other two... Kovy and Nash are competent both ways.

- Tomahawk


Agreed. Kurri and Robitaille made Gretzky what he was.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yeah, but Read's a fantastic PKer. Gagne was not by that point in his career.
- jmatchett383


Yes he is. Making top money to do so. If he had a pp role I wouldn't be as skeptical. Plus Hexy didn't mention him at all when talking about the vacant wing spot. I just get that feeling
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
Berube already said he doesn't think Read is a good option for 1LW because he wants a stronger player on the boards to complement G and V.

So I double checked Nash's cap hit and he is the only Ranger forward signed past this coming season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:21 PM ET
Yes he is. Making top money to do so. If he had a pp role I wouldn't be as skeptical. Plus Hexy didn't mention him at all when talking about the vacant wing spot. I just get that feeling
- Just5


I don't think he projects as a top-line winger. He and Couturrier have a good thing going and I'd hate to break it up.

Edit: Just like he probably didn't say Laughton or Coburn were good fits for the top line wing, because that's not what they project to be in his eyes.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:22 PM ET
So I double checked Nash's cap hit and he is the only Ranger forward signed past this coming season.
- Feanor


Sather's quietly become an almost competent salary-cap manager.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:24 PM ET
Berube already said he doesn't think Read is a good option for 1LW because he wants a stronger player on the boards to complement G and V.

So I double checked Nash's cap hit and he is the only Ranger forward signed past this coming season.

- Feanor



I'm really intrigued with the E Kane thing. Would make a nice core player to grow with the team and compliment Roo
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:26 PM ET
Ranking the last 20 1st-overall picks:
http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/527371

- Tomahawk


Jovo ahead of Chris Phillips?

I don't know about all that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
Jovo ahead of Chris Phillips?

I don't know about all that.

- johndewar


He was an All-Star early on. Phillips is a steady yet unspectacular player.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:28 PM ET
whats the buzz today
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
whats the buzz today
- SMS4016


Trade for E Kane
Trade for Ekblad
Dump Vinny
Can't trade Vinny until July 1st
Sixers are gonna win the Championship next year
Everything sucks.

Edit: Sex stops 1 year after marriage
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
Sather's quietly become an almost competent salary-cap manager.
- Tomahawk


I don't know if having ~$22m to fill out almost half your roster is a great position to be in right now with the way salaries are climbing.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:32 PM ET
Trade for E Kane
Trade for Ekblad
Dump Vinny
Can't trade Vinny until July 1st
Sixers are gonna win the Championship next year
Everything sucks.

Edit: Sex stops 1 year after marriage

- jmatchett383

whats with the e kane talk? got a feeling vinny is moved before the draft
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
He was an All-Star early on. Phillips is a steady yet unspectacular player.
- jmatchett383


Wow, I actually had to look it up but Jovo has 500 NHL points; almost double Phillips.

If my life depended on knowing that, I'd be deader than fried chicken.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:34 PM ET
Wow, I actually had to look it up but Jovo has 500 NHL points; almost double Phillips.

If my life depended on knowing that, I'd be deader than fried chicken.

- johndewar


For the first 10 years or so, he was a legit top-pair defenseman, then his knees gave up.

Phillips was a good complimentary player. I always liked their defense when it was Phillips with Redden, back before Redden became Redden.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
I don't know if having ~$22m to fill out almost half your roster is a great position to be in right now with the way salaries are climbing.
- Feanor



Outside of Zuccarello's re-up, they seem set up pretty well for next year. Cheap depth and kids should get them over the finish line.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
For the first 10 years or so, he was a legit top-pair defenseman, then his knees gave up.

Phillips was a good complimentary player. I always liked their defense when it was Phillips with Redden, back before Redden became Redden.

- jmatchett383


Jovo had some really good years in Vancouver (17 goals and 48 points in '01-'02), which I don't remember at all.

Yeah, I was way off on that one.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
Just because MacD may play on the third pair doesn't make him your typical third pairing defenseman.

Flyers spread the wealth on thier blue line, I would label thier Dmen as follows.

Coburn(1)-Timonen(4)
Streit(2)-Grossmann(5)
MacD(3)-Schenn(6)

- Baxter27

You think Streit is number two? The guy who plays on the second PP unit and doesn't kill penalties? The guy who doesn't go clear the oppositions best players?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
You think Streit is number two? The guy who plays on the second PP unit and doesn't kill penalties?
- SuperSchennBros


Given the other options....I guess maybe switch AMac with him???
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Evander Kane will announce the Flyers 1st overall draft pick
Hextall will be riding a unicorn
Shea Weber will be playing guitar coming down from the raftors with a Flyers uniform
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Evander Kane will announce the Flyers 1st overall draft pick
Hextall will be riding a unicorn
Shea Weber will be playing guitar coming down from the raftors with a Flyers uniform

- Winning


I think only one of these 3 will come true.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
Outside of Zuccarello's re-up, they seem set up pretty well for next year. Cheap depth and kids should get them over the finish line.
- Tomahawk


I see him and Brassard both holding out for $4m or more. They have the stats and age to demand that type of money.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
Given the other options....I guess maybe switch AMac with him???
- jmatchett383


I'm floored.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:41 PM ET
I'm floored.
- SuperSchennBros


okay
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 4:41 PM ET

- mydoglicks

That creek is very divisive.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:41 PM ET
whats with the e kane talk? got a feeling vinny is moved before the draft
- SMS4016



Some guy tweeted @RonHextall to get us E Kane

E Kane favorited the tweet.

Its all speculation from there.
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