Omelette on Hinkie's suit tonight. Lead pipe, CT chimp lock!
- PLindbergh31

you still have a bit of embryo on your chin from your months of calling the '010 flyers gutless pukes before the finals run

Ovechkin over Stamkos?
- jmatchett383

I think Fleury is too high

you still have a bit of embryo on your chin from your months of calling the '010 flyers gutless pukes before the finals run
- Crimsoninja

LOL

The new houses they crammed in next to the generator station or one of the older homes?
- mayorofangrytown

no i live on top of 3rd ave, its called w summit

Ranking the last 20 1st-overall picks:
http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/527371
- Tomahawk

the list is garbage, vl was an awesome player when he was younger, won a cup and all.

no i live on top of 3rd ave, its called w summit
- mydoglicks

Oh, you're all the way over by the train station. I grew up east of Embreeville road. We don't talk to you people.

you still have a bit of embryo on your chin from your months of calling the '010 flyers gutless pukes before the finals run
- Crimsoninja

Tap dancing on plind's skull

the list is garbage, vl was an awesome player when he was younger, won a cup and all.
- mydoglicks

There's not a player ahead of him except MAF that isn't more talented than he is/was. I suspect that Taylor Hall will eventually eclipse his career as well when all is said and done.

Ranking the last 20 1st-overall picks:
http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/527371
- Tomahawk

all kidding aside, i really feel if hextall makes any trades read will be involved, non-physical undersized guy and now they have umberger to take is pk time
- mydoglicks

I absolutely think read is in play. I go back to when the kings got rid of gagne citing he's not "kings material" or something like that. Reads game is much like his.

He would bring back tremendous value and we would need to fill a 3rd line and pk spot. That can be done in August

you still have a bit of embryo on your chin from your months of calling the '010 flyers gutless pukes before the finals run
- Crimsoninja

well to be fair they still lost

There's not a player ahead of him except MAF that isn't more talented than he is/was. I suspect that Taylor Hall will eventually eclipse his career as well when all is said and done.
- Tomahawk

Talent is one thing. VL has had a better NHL career than Nash and Kovalchuk.

Tap dancing on plind's skull
- BulliesPhan87

Do you know if a chimp is strong enough to rip someone's face off?

Talent is one thing. VL has had a better NHL career than Nash and Kovalchuk.
- Feanor

Those guys haven't had the opportunity to play with St. Louis either.

I absolutely think read is in play. I go back to when the kings got rid of gagne citing he's not "kings material" or something like that. Reads game is much like his.

He would bring back tremendous value and we would need to fill a 3rd line and pk spot. That can be done in August
- Just5

Good luck finding a player equal to Read in August. Sure you can bring in what's left of the scrap heap to play on the 3rd line, or on the PK. But not nearly to the level that Read can.

Talent is one thing. VL has had a better NHL career than Nash and Kovalchuk.
- Feanor

Mostly b/c he's played 300-400 games more than them...

Nash and Kovy both have higher per-game rates of goal-scoring despite neither ever having played with anybody decent who could get them the puck.... Vinny had Marty for all those years:

Kovy: .511
Nash: .429
Vinny: .364

Goals aren't the only thing that matters. Assists and playoff wins count, too.

Those guys haven't had the opportunity to play with St. Louis either.
- PhillySportsGuy

Nash has.

Goals aren't the only thing that matters. Assists and playoff wins count, too.



Nash has.
- Feanor

Playoff wins are a product of team success. I'm not a fan of Nash, but he never really had much help on Columbus. Kovalchuk didn't have much help either. Is it any surprise that both of those guys had more playoff success once they left Atlanta and Columbus?

I absolutely think read is in play. I go back to when the kings got rid of gagne citing he's not "kings material" or something like that. Reads game is much like his.

He would bring back tremendous value and we would need to fill a 3rd line and pk spot. That can be done in August
- Just5

Yeah, but Read's a fantastic PKer. Gagne was not by that point in his career.

Oh, you're all the way over by the train station. I grew up east of Embreeville road. We don't talk to you people.

- mayorofangrytown

Playoff wins are a product of team success. I'm not a fan of Nash, but he never really had much help on Columbus. Kovalchuk didn't have much help either. Is it any surprise that both of those guys had more playoff success once they left Atlanta and Columbus?
- PhillySportsGuy

I think the surprise was that Nash was such a dead weight for the Rangers in the playoffs. 15 points in 37 games is terrible for a ~$8 million player.

Yeah, but Read's a fantastic PKer. Gagne was not by that point in his career.
- jmatchett383

Honestly, I don't see how any GM wouldn't want Matt Read. He can fit any system.

I think the surprise was that Nash was such a dead weight for the Rangers in this year's playoffs.
- Feanor

He generated chances. He just couldn't seem to score. Rangers got by because they had strong balanced scoring. They preyed on a weak eastern conference. They really needed a top line to step up and score. Nash couldn't deliver.

Honestly, I don't see how any GM wouldn't want Matt Read. He can fit any system.
- PhillySportsGuy

Pretty much. Not a 1st line player, but can play win on any other line and can play in all manpower situations. Is a proven 20-goal scorer with fantastic 2-way ability.

Goals aren't the only thing that matters. Assists and playoff wins count, too.
- Feanor

A's are strongly dependent on linemates' ability to finish... plus all three guys are primarily shooters, so to compare them through goals seems pretty fair.

Defense is the other area where Vinny doesn't measure up to the other two... Kovy and Nash are competent both ways.