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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Not for real...

- mayorofangrytown

i know coburn doesn't have much value but i think it's a fair deal
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Laughton Coburn Read 1st for Gagner and 3rd overall
- 2Real



Why would we trade youth in Laughton for Gagner? Also Coburns is our number 1 so who eats his minutes.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
Why would we trade youth in Laughton for Gagner? Also Coburns is our number 1 so who eats his minutes.
- J35Bacher

someone else? coburn isn't a number 1 dman in this league so it isn't hard to replace him
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
Why would we trade youth in Laughton for Gagner? Also Coburns is our number 1 so who eats his minutes.
- J35Bacher

gagner is 24
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
someone else? coburn isn't a number 1 dman in this league so it isn't hard to replace him
- 2Real


Flyers still haven't replaced Matt Carle
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
LECAVALIER'S AGENT GETS PERMISSION TO TALK TRADE WITH TEAMS (TSN)

We would probably retain some salary on that I assume.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
Flyers still haven't replaced Matt Carle
- PhillySportsGuy

we did have a replacement his name was gustufsson the team was too (frank)ing stupid to realize
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
LECAVALIER'S AGENT GETS PERMISSION TO TALK TRADE WITH TEAMS (TSN)

We would probably retain some salary on that I assume.

- Chris48

wut
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
we did have a replacement his name was gustufsson the team was too (frank)ing stupid to realize
- 2Real


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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
TRADE VINNY TO SAN JOSE PLZ THEY WANT HIM HE'D LOVE TO PLAY THERE
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
someone else? coburn isn't a number 1 dman in this league so it isn't hard to replace him
- 2Real


Maybe. But on the FLYERS he is. And they don't have anyone that does what he does at this time.


I know gagner is 24 but Laughton is what 19, 20. I don't see us winning the cup next year right now so I would want to keep my youth. Also I see Laughton as one of those players that fits into what Berubes system is about. Skating, agressck support two way team.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
we did have a replacement his name was gustufsson the team was too (frank)ing stupid to realize
- 2Real



yeah he's so good only the khl could see it
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
we did have a replacement his name was gustufsson the team was too (frank)ing stupid to realize
- 2Real


Gustufason is = to Coburn?

Really?

What showed you that?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
yeah he's so good only the khl could see it
- -davies-


So good he was never drafted after a standout college career.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
Vinny and Grossman for Jason Demers GIT ER DONE HEXY
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
If they can move VL, here is my roster:
Vrbata ($3.5m) / Giroux ($8.275m) / Voracek ($4.250m)
Umberger ($4.600m) / Schenn ($2.500m) / Simmonds ($3.975m)
Raffl ($1.100m) / Couturier ($1.750m) / Read ($3.625m)
Bellemare ($0.600m) / Hall ($0.600m) / McGinn ($0.732m)

Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Akeson ($0.715m)

DEFENSEMEN
Streit ($5.250m) / Coburn ($4.500m)
Schenn ($3.600m) / MacDonald ($5.000m)
Timonen ($2.000m) / Grossmann ($3.500m)

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.650m)


LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)

RETAINED SALARIES (1.58% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($1.125m—25.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000

I don't play Akeson unless I can get him minutes on a line that is there to score.
Rosehill has go to someplace, but he in inconsequential at this point.
Back up goalie just can't cost more than Ray did.

- nails


Why do you have 2 extra forwards but no 7th Dman? If Akeson is not going to play put him in the minors and call up Laurisden to play as a 7th Dman
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
So good he was never drafted after a standout college career.
- jmatchett383


Dan Girardi
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
Gustufason is = to Coburn?

Really?

What showed you that?

- J35Bacher

Gusty -> Carle
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
Dan Girardi
- aflyerpower8


Was a college standout?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
So good he was never drafted after a standout college career.
- jmatchett383

oh really so there's never been a good college player in the NHL?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
oh really so there's never been a good college player in the NHL?
- 2Real


Yeah, you totally missed the point there. Not surprising, I know hate blinds you 98% of the time.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
i know coburn doesn't have much value but i think it's a fair deal
- 2Real


You mean the guy MacTavish was salivating over and desperatley trying to get at last years draft and Homer refused to part with has no value to Edmonton? That guy? They just signed Nikita Nikitin for 4.5 mil, trust me, Coburn has TONS of value in Edmonton. But If I'm giving that kind of overpayment, I'd be sending them South for Florida's pick.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:31 PM ET
Was a college standout?
- jmatchett383


No, but he was never drafted. You also forget that after college you don't go back into the draft, you become a free agent.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:31 PM ET
wut
- 2Real



Lecavalier is owed a 2M bonus this July 1st. Everyone knows we want to move him and Hextall is somewhat handcuffed being at the cap ceiling already. Don't know if the current CBA allows a team to pay the bonus to a roster player prior the bonus date (July 1st) and trade him right after. Basically we pay the bonus before it's due, the new team acquires Lecavalier saving a cash payment (not the cap hit) giving Hextall liberty to make possible moves.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:32 PM ET
You mean the guy MacTavish was salivating over and desperatley trying to get at last years draft and Homer refused to part with has no value to Edmonton? That guy? They just signed Nikita Nikitin for 4.5 mil, trust me, Coburn has TONS of value in Edmonton. But If I'm giving that kind of overpayment, I'd be sending them South for Florida's pick.
- flyler


Come on, he's a run of the mill bum and you know it.
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