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Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
Sorry Ducks have more to offer, and any team that gets Kesler will be able to sign Kane away from the Hawks.
- A_SteamingLombardi


What/who does Anaheim have to offer? The players I'm hearing available on Anaheim, Etem & DSP, are not better than Leddy. TT has a different skill set to those two, but is most likely the more skilled player. Don't think the #10 pick in this weak draft is anything that puts them over the top.

IMO, I believe the Hawks have more to offer.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 4:41 PM ET
Hawks now getting the 1st overall for Sharpe.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
Lebrun just posted some stuff about a Kesler trade...

The one thing Kesler can’t dictate, however, is forcing the Vancouver Canucks to trade him. Unless and until either Anaheim or Chicago presents a package that the Canucks believe is worthy, they won’t move him, one source said. These things can change with one single conversation, but as of Tuesday afternoon, no trade for Kesler was imminent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...ading-the-pack-for-kesler

- hankthetank


I sort of got that impression too that Canucks have not received a decent offer. Trevor said on Friday and again yesterday Jim Likes Kesler and wants to try to keep him. That tells me posturing for a better deal .
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 24 @ 4:45 PM ET



I Wonder if Benning will allow Horvat to compete in the World Juniors..........

(assuming he makes the team)

So many players getting hurt in international competitions these days.


A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
What/who does Anaheim have to offer? The players I'm hearing available on Anaheim, Etem & DSP, are not better than Leddy. TT has a different skill set to those two, but is most likely the more skilled player. Don't think the #10 pick in this weak draft is anything that puts them over the top.

IMO, I believe the Hawks have more to offer.

- Dannyboy

No use for Leddy, we have 4 LHD and #10 is much higher than the Hawks pick, but that's just my opinion, which seems to carry more weight in a Canuck thread than yours.
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
I sort of got that impression too that Canucks have not received a decent offer. Trevor said on Friday and again yesterday Jim Likes Kesler and wants to try to keep him. That tells me posturing for a better deal .
- VANTEL


If he's holding out for/wants TT, see ya TT.
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
No use for Leddy, we have 4 LHD and #10 is much higher than the Hawks pick, but that's just my opinion, which seems to carry more weight in a Canuck thread than yours.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Totally understand. Just saying this year, the #10 doesn't have value like it should. Just think the package the Hawks could offer is better in spite of having the #27 pick. Interesting to see what happens either way.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
If he's holding out for/wants TT, see ya TT.
- Dannyboy


With word of Gaborik being close to signing in LA, the Hawks need Kesler more otherwise they won't be able to compete with the Kings. Plus, if he goes to the Ducks then the Ducks could give the Hawks a good run for their money. But the Ducks also need Kesler to stay competitive with LA and Chicago. This should be an all out bidding war!
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
No use for Leddy? How wrong you are

Leddy goes to Florida in a package for the 1st overall and we can keep Tanev
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
Totally understand. Just saying this year, the #10 doesn't have value like it should. Just think the package the Hawks could offer is better in spite of having the #27 pick. Interesting to see what happens either way.
- Dannyboy

You could make an offer for Speeza.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
Totally understand. Just saying this year, the #10 doesn't have value like it should. Just think the package the Hawks could offer is better in spite of having the #27 pick. Interesting to see what happens either way.
- Dannyboy


Leddy is good, but I think the Canucks would rather get some impacts forwards.
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:51 PM ET
You could make an offer for Speeza.
- A_SteamingLombardi


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
No use for Leddy? How wrong you are

Leddy goes to Florida in a package for the 1st overall and we can keep Tanev

- The_Kuze

I bet Tanev is looking in the 4.5 range as an opener. Not worth it yet .
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
I Wonder if Benning will allow Horvat to compete in the World Juniors..........

(assuming he makes the team)

So many players getting hurt in international competitions these days.



- classic321


As long as he not getting regular minutes in the NHL. Thats the only reason GM's say no. If Horvat is still in junior, this is a big boost to his development so its crazy to say no.
Cletuswest
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.19.2014

Jun 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
Too many people trying to tell him he's full of sh!t probably. I always get a good chuckle when he pretends he has sources.

I hope Kesler goes to Anaheim. I'm not sold on TT at all.

- hankthetank

I 100 percent agree , they have a better pick too
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
I bet Tanev is looking in the 4.5 range as an opener. Not worth it yet .
- VANTEL


Any hold out for that kind of money might get his ass traded.(Arb most likely then).
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
You could make an offer for Speeza.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Carol is right, Kesler is a big domino. He's the best player that is "available" plus his cap hit is VERY cap-friendly. I think Benning and Linden are wise to hold out and get others to up their offer. They aren't gonna Gillis this one.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:54 PM ET
Leddy is good, but I think the Canucks would rather get some impacts forwards.
- hankthetank

Shaw.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
Any hold out for that kind of money might get his ass traded.(Arb most likely then).

- boonerbuck

I have a feeling that is what he wants
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
I have a feeling that is what he wants
- VANTEL


I don't think he's that stupid.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
I don't think he's that stupid.
- DrChristianTroy

Wasn't he playing top line minutes last year? I doubt he wants a bridge deal of three years three mil.
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
I bet Tanev is looking in the 4.5 range as an opener. Not worth it yet .
- VANTEL


Agree there forsure

If that's what Tanev wants keep Leddy then.

Shinkaruk is a non starter for me. He looks like a special player. He basically made the team last year with a busted hip. I don't think id be trading him unless you are very very certain reinhart will be a top line center. It would pretty sweet to see a Shinkaruk Reinhart Kassian line in the future
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:02 PM ET
Agree there forsure

If that's what Tanev wants keep Leddy then.

Shinkaruk is a non starter for me. He looks like a special player. He basically made the team last year with a busted hip. I don't think id be trading him unless you are very very certain reinhart will be a top line center. It would pretty sweet to see a Shinkaruk Reinhart Kassian line in the future

- The_Kuze

We were all raving about Bennings uncanny scouting abilities, and looks like he wants to go balls to the wall after Sammy R , so he must feel he is a number 1
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 24 @ 5:02 PM ET
I have a feeling that is what he wants
- VANTEL


I havent noticed/heard anything to suggest that. Plus, this team has been good for his career so far.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
I don't think he's that stupid.
- DrChristianTroy


Agreed. That would get him traded pronto. He should be signed in the 3m range.
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