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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:01 PM ET
According to Hextall, after he explained the rationale to Grillo, Hartnell called him.

“The one question he asked me was, ‘When did I fall out of favor?’” Hextall said. “I said, ‘No Hartsy, you haven’t fallen out of favor. This is just something that fits for us and we want to move forward with it.’

“To Scott’s credit and his agent’s credit, they were open to it, though it took them two days, which I had no problem with.”

- feanor


(frank) man this made me legitimately sad
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:01 PM ET
Is quoting (frank)ed up for anyone else?

EDIT: I had to type in the html command things

for anyone who wants it, it's
.....................
- USERNAME
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
I'm sorry...I feel you misunderstood me...let me try it this way
A BONAFIDE NUMBER 1 DEFENSEMAN THAT HAS WON A NORRIS TROPHY AT AGE 25.

- Deasr1

don't give a poop b schenn will bring a lot to the team and l schenn's contributions will be a bonus out weighing what a single subban brings
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
Is quoting (frank)ed up for anyone else?
- Giroux_Is_God


Yes, I have to try it like four times and refresh the page before it works.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
Ok, then I agree with your point. No one, but Giroux and Mason, should be untouchable when it comes to a proven number one defenseman. If they were unproven, the you start adding Voracek, Couts, Simmer, Morin, etc.
- aflyerpower8

I'm not sure it's really worth it to trade for a guy like that. I'm not a big fan of the OS either. You hope that your picks are high, but if injuries strike the main core and you end up with a top ten pick, it's gone. What if you are a player away and at the deadline you could have him for a 1rst. No picks. I like Subban and I know we need a player of his caliber, just don't see it being worth it.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:04 PM ET
Yes, I have to try it like four times and refresh the page before it works.
- aflyerpower8

it's:

(quote=USERNAME) ............ (/quote)

But replace the () with []
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
don't give a poop b schenn will bring a lot to the team and l schenn's contributions will be a bonus out weighing what a single subban brings
- 2Real

My friend, I hope you are right. However, if Montreal called Hexy and said, " We can't sign Subban, give us both Schenns and your first. He's yours". I bet you both those little buggers would be in the same suitcase on a plane to Canada that hour.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
Can't edit either
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:06 PM ET
Can't edit either
- Giroux_Is_God

It's the server. Probably a SQL error.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:06 PM ET
It's the server. Probably a SQL error.
- Deasr1

SQL??? who the (frank) still uses that poop
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:08 PM ET
I'm not sure it's really worth it to trade for a guy like that. I'm not a big fan of the OS either. You hope that your picks are high, but if injuries strike the main core and you end up with a top ten pick, it's gone. What if you are a player away and at the deadline you could have him for a 1rst. No picks. I like Subban and I know we need a player of his caliber, just don't see it being worth it.
- Deasr1


In general, it costs a ton and you need enough good roster players, good prospects, and some cap space to refill all the holes you made. The Flyers don't have enough right now for a trade like that.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:09 PM ET
SQL??? who the (frank) still uses that poop
- 2Real

We are at the moment
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:09 PM ET
My friend, I hope you are right. However, if Montreal called Hexy and said, " We can't sign Subban, give us both Schenns and your first. He's yours". I bet you both those little buggers would be in the same suitcase on a plane to Canada that hour.
- Deasr1

i tell montreal sucks to be you bro here's luke schenn and 1st
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:10 PM ET
In general, it costs a ton and you need enough good roster players, good prospects, and some cap space to refill all the holes you made. The Flyers don't have enough right now for a trade like that.
- aflyerpower8

I understand that. I know that is not going to happen again. Well, at least I think it won't. But I am curious to see the deal he gets. Friday to next Friday will be very interesting around the league.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:11 PM ET
We are at the moment
- Deasr1

man i'm partial to Solr and Cassandra
SQL poop is just too slow
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:11 PM ET
i tell montreal sucks to be you bro here's luke schenn and 1st
- 2Real

Thank god you are not the GM. Look at it this way, you would be able to most likely be able to keep your boy Vinny on the 2nd line.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:11 PM ET
Kind of a little less excited for the draft after seeing Hexy's thoughts on this draft. Sounds like they're very softly kicking around the idea of moving up. Really curious what the cost to move up from 17 to 6 or 7 would be. Could be the difference from getting a solid 2nd line winger and a legit top line LW. I'm looking at Vancouver at 6 and wondering if 17, Hagg and a 3rd get it done or would it have to be something like 17 and Laughton? Richie is the guy I would have in mind with the pick.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:11 PM ET
man i'm partial to Solr and Cassandra
SQL poop is just too slow

- 2Real

Well, it isn't going to disappear anytime soon.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:12 PM ET
what do you guys estimate the cost to move into the top ten for the Flyers in the draft?

assuming this is a swap of #17 for a pick #6-10, as hinted in the earlier comment from Hexy?

- Marc D


It will cost a fair amount because there isn't a large amount of "high end talent", I firmly stay at 17 because I believe it's still a solid draft or if I can I try to slide back a little.

aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:14 PM ET
It will cost a fair amount because there isn't a large amount of "high end talent", I firmly stay at 17 because I believe it's still a solid draft or if I can I try to slide back a little.
- ob18


Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 7:14 PM ET
It will cost a fair amount because there isn't a large amount of "high end talent", I firmly stay at 17 because I believe it's still a solid draft or if I can I try to slide back a little.
- ob18

Vinny and 17 for Pacioretty and 26?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:15 PM ET
Well, it isn't going to disappear anytime soon.
- Deasr1

uh huh said the same people about just storing your data in plain files then searching
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:15 PM ET
Vinny and 17 for Pacioretty and 26?
- Deasr1


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:17 PM ET

- aflyerpower8


That's just me, others will move up no matter the cost.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:23 PM ET
That's just me, others will move up no matter the cost.
- ob18


Hopefully that includes all the teams in the 20-23 range. My pipe dream is trading back to 21(picking up their later second) and grabbing McKeown.
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