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Habssuperfan77
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brain Tumor survivor...wish they would have at least provide me with a brain after the surgery. : (
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:00 AM ET
That's because I like Sacha.
- Cyberhabs




LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUC!
Habssuperfan77
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brain Tumor survivor...wish they would have at least provide me with a brain after the surgery. : (
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:01 AM ET
Very few people I know, are finer people than Sacha.
- hscesq





I feel the same way towards you brother.
Habssuperfan77
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brain Tumor survivor...wish they would have at least provide me with a brain after the surgery. : (
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:03 AM ET
Probably
- mr.peanut



you would know, if you let me visit you in Mascouche once in a while.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:12 AM ET
hi.
Habssuperfan77
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brain Tumor survivor...wish they would have at least provide me with a brain after the surgery. : (
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:15 AM ET
hi.
- muffin_man


hey man.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:22 AM ET
you would know, if you let me visit you in Mascouche once in a while.

- Habssuperfan77

Only if I lived there.
habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 24 @ 7:25 AM ET
Galchenyuk's time at center has come. For this to happen they need to get rid of Desharnais. I love the guy and his heart but Eller, Plekanec and Galchenyuk (in no particular order) are your top 3 centers. I'm sure some team somewhere would pick up his salary, therefore giving MB more wiggle room to add depth on July 1st. (not to mention a little signing he needs to get done involving PK Subban)
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:31 AM ET
Galchenyuk's time at center has come. For this to happen they need to get rid of Desharnais. I love the guy and his heart but Eller, Plekanec and Galchenyuk (in no particular order) are your top 3 centers. I'm sure some team somewhere would pick up his salary, therefore giving MB more wiggle room to add depth on July 1st. (not to mention a little signing he needs to get done involving PK Subban)
- habfanforever

Yes, trade your highest scoring centre and plug in a guy that hasn't played the position in years making your top-3 Plekanec, poor mans Plekanec, and a guy who may not work in that position.

If you want Glachenyuk at centre have him take some turns taking face-offs from time to time on the 4th line and 2nd pp unit. Let him get his feet wet and if he does well keep giving more turns at the position.
Habssuperfan77
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brain Tumor survivor...wish they would have at least provide me with a brain after the surgery. : (
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:35 AM ET
Only if I lived there.
- mr.peanut


Oops.

I meant Blainville.
sorry
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 24 @ 7:36 AM ET
Oops.

I meant Blainville.
sorry

- Habssuperfan77

Close, so close
Habssuperfan77
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brain Tumor survivor...wish they would have at least provide me with a brain after the surgery. : (
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:37 AM ET
Yes, trade your highest scoring centre and plug in a guy that hasn't played the position in years making your top-3 Plekanec, poor mans Plekanec, and a guy who may not work in that position.

If you want Glachenyuk at centre have him take some turns taking face-offs from time to time on the 4th line and 2nd pp unit. Let him get his feet wet and if he does well keep giving more turns at the position.

- mr.peanut



well said Nuthead!


Also, please trade Bourque, Moen and the rights to Vanek.
Thanks
Habssuperfan77
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brain Tumor survivor...wish they would have at least provide me with a brain after the surgery. : (
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 7:37 AM ET
Close, so close
- mr.peanut


ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 8:11 AM ET
Yes, trade your highest scoring centre and plug in a guy that hasn't played the position in years making your top-3 Plekanec, poor mans Plekanec, and a guy who may not work in that position.

If you want Glachenyuk at centre have him take some turns taking face-offs from time to time on the 4th line and 2nd pp unit. Let him get his feet wet and if he does well keep giving more turns at the position.

- mr.peanut



I like Desharnais, he tries hard and showed up for every games in the playoffs. But as the #1 center he finished with only 8 pts in 17 games in the playoffs for 9th place on the habs team. Even Vanek had more pts then him.

When you are the #1 center and you play big minutes and are on all the PP and you get outscored by players on the 3rd line ( bourque, Eller), then sometimes giving all you have is not good enough.

Montreal needs to start comparing themselves to the best teams in the league like Chicago, L.A., Anaheim, San Jose, Colorado, Boston, etc. Would Plec and Desharnais play top 6 on those teams?

Hopefully, Bergevin will make some changes to this team this summer. Trade some veteran players for some young players. 1993 is a freaking long time ago, and I want my team to at least be part of the contending teams in the league for the cup, and not just try to make the playoffs.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 24 @ 8:15 AM ET
Did I miss anything?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 24 @ 8:15 AM ET
Oh hi Sacha
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 8:15 AM ET
I like Desharnais, he tries hard and showed up for every games in the playoffs. But as the #1 center he finished with only 8 pts in 17 games in the playoffs for 9th place on the habs team. Even Vanek had more pts then him.

When you are the #1 center and you play big minutes and are on all the PP and you get outscored by players on the 3rd line ( bourque, Eller), then sometimes giving all you have is not good enough.

Montreal needs to start comparing themselves to the best teams in the league like Chicago, L.A., Anaheim, San Jose, Colorado, Boston, etc. Would Plec and Desharnais play top 6 on those teams?

Hopefully, Bergevin will make some changes to this team this summer. Trade some veteran players for some young players. 1993 is a freaking long time ago, and I want my team to at least be part of the contending teams in the league for the cup, and not just try to make the playoffs.

- ShafterBenRaide



Went to 6 th game of ECF without their starting goalie and beat Boston, they did more than make the playoffs.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 8:16 AM ET
Did I miss anything?
- dt99999

Stee got drunk and fell into eklund and Julie during the podcast.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 8:17 AM ET
Went to 6 th game of ECF without their starting goalie and beat Boston, they did more than make the playoffs.
- BingoLady

I was thinking the same thing. Which....scares me a bit.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 24 @ 8:19 AM ET
I was thinking the same thing. Which....scares me a bit.
- hscesq

Leave the thinking to stee and sacha
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 8:21 AM ET
Leave the thinking to stee and sacha
- dt99999

Probably the best way to go.
ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 8:21 AM ET
Went to 6 th game of ECF without their starting goalie and beat Boston, they did more than make the playoffs.
- BingoLady


The East won't stay weak for very long. Montreal wouldn't of made the playoffs if they played in the West imo.

I really hope you don't think we are a contender because we beat an injured Bruins team? Montreal played 1 hard series against Boston and they were out of juice. They had nothing left against the Rangers. Look at L.A., the played 3 extremely physical series and they still had energy left to beat the rangers in 5.

We need young blood, and we need to get bigger.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 8:22 AM ET
Leave the thinking to stee and sacha
- dt99999

I will trust Bergevin , Dudley etc make the right decisions. Can't see them blowing up the team. A few minor tweaks here and there. Get PK locked up LT. Then see how season goes and add at deadline again.
ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 8:24 AM ET
I will trust Bergevin , Dudley etc make the right decisions. Can't see them blowing up the team. A few minor tweaks here and there. Get PK locked up LT. Then see how season goes and add at deadline again.
- BingoLady



Seems like the same strategy we have been using the past 20+ years. Patch some holes here and there and hope we can play 1 or 2 rounds in the playoffs.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 8:25 AM ET
The East won't stay weak for very long. Montreal wouldn't of made the playoffs if they played in the West imo.

I really hope you don't think we are a contender because we beat an injured Bruins team? Montreal played 1 hard series against Boston and they were out of juice. They had nothing left against the Rangers. Look at L.A., the played 3 extremely physical series and they still had energy left to beat the rangers in 5.

We need young blood, and we need to get bigger.

- ShafterBenRaide

All the youngsters are good size. The big 3 2015 version on D are big. DLR is what 6'1 and the next Lucic is 6'5. We will draft a 7 footer this week.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 8:26 AM ET
The East won't stay weak for very long. Montreal wouldn't of made the playoffs if they played in the West imo.

I really hope you don't think we are a contender because we beat an injured Bruins team? Montreal played 1 hard series against Boston and they were out of juice. They had nothing left against the Rangers. Look at L.A., the played 3 extremely physical series and they still had energy left to beat the rangers in 5.

We need young blood, and we need to get bigger.

- ShafterBenRaide

1. Montreal finished the regular season with 100 points
2. Montreal doesn't play in the west, so that issue is irrelevant.
3. They beat the top team in the conference to reach the conference finals.
4. They lost in 6 games in the ECF, after losing their goalie in game 1.
5. There are a bunch of younger guys on this team (Subban, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Eller, Patch, and the younger DMen on the way, plus Price). You can't have all younger players - it doesn't work.

Are they a "contender"? Well, final four is pretty good and it taught them a lot about how to win. Let's see what MB does to keep them competitive, and go from there.
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