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dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:12 PM ET
Yeah, but Umberger is older and has the same cap hit. Idk don't really care for this trade. Only benefit is Hartnell has more years left on his deal.
- PLindbergh31


Hartnell's older than Umberger. By 15 days, granted, but Umberger is at least technically younger.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
This is a bad deal. Umberger was a scratch for Columbus. This would be like the Flyers trading VL for a much more productive player who is signed a little longer.
- PhillySportsGuy


Who do you think the Sixers get Thursday night? Parker or Wiggins?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
I can't believe Hartnell waived his NTC
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Ouch Boys......Ouch

Umberger was a buy-out candidate, was he not?
Not to mention he demanded a trade out...........



Don't worry.



Here comes Kesler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yet another center for y'all
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Who do you think the Sixers get Thursday night? Parker or Wiggins?
- PLindbergh31


Exum
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET


It's official Giroux will be traded in minutes

or Coots

- Winning

Josh Bailey and a 4th?
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET


It's official Giroux will be traded in minutes

or Coots

- Winning


PLEASE tell me that's not the lesson Hextall learned from Holmgren while he was apprenticing.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET


It's official Giroux will be traded in minutes

or Coots

- Winning


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Any chance that Philly management tired of Hartnell's act?

I'm just throwing poop at the wall here.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Hartnell's older than Umberger. By 15 days, granted, but Umberger is at least technically younger.
- dilbert719


Oh ok. They are the same age. I didn't think Hartnell was 32 yet. Wasn't Umberger a healthy scratch in the playoffs?
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Here comes Dion. Hartnell and him hate each other.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Wait until you find out that 'lumbus ate half of Umberger's salary.
- Tomahawk


Actually, that'd make me feel a little better.

I like Hartnell, but understand that maybe he should go because of the term of his current contract.

But for just Umberger and a mid draft pick?

RJ looks like a shot player to me.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Yeah, but Umberger is older and has the same cap hit. Idk don't really care for this trade. Only benefit is Hartnell has more years left on his deal.
- PLindbergh31



They may not keep Umberger around... buyout is a possibility.

And still can't believe Hartsy waived his NMC to go to 'lumbus.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
I don't think people love Hartnell, but he's a better player than Umberger. Doesn't make much sense. Perhaps it's the pre-cursor to a flurry of moves.
- PLindbergh31

People are really overlooking Hartnell's contract term. That's why you're not getting a better player back. I'm perfectly fine with Umberger tbh.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
This is a bad deal. Umberger was a scratch for Columbus. This would be like the Flyers trading VL for a much more productive player who is signed a little longer.
- PhillySportsGuy

The kicker is the 4th rounder.

If that was a 2nd. Then fine.

Being a 4th tells me CBJ eats salary here
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Tyler J. Altemose ‏@TJamesAltemose Protected Tweets 38s

The move relieves $150k in cap space. #Flyers now at $4,363,571. Umberger is UFA in 2017. His modified NTC kicks in this year.

THIS GETS BETTER BY THE MINUTE
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
this trade will probably increase giroux's numbers
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Maybe the jackets are eating salary?

Otherwise, this is a horrible trade.

- Giroux_Is_God


Not pleased.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
How long before hartnell joins Richards, carter and Williams in LA?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
yeah. right now, hartnell may be the better player, but he is going down fast.

he would have been harder to move with each passing year. this is a slight step down in order to essentially free yourselves of those last 2 years. aggressive, and objectively like it.

- stayinthefnnet

It's a realistic deal in a cap world. Shave off two years that are otherwise untradeable.

It helps CLB in the short term.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
My Flyers trade PTSD has been triggered.

/remembers the Carter/Richards trade day
//starts rocking back and forth in my office chair
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
Umberger was gonna be bought out.... This is a bad trade... Hartnell actually could've returned some value rather than garbage.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
They may not keep Umberger around... buyout is a possibility.

And still can't believe Hartsy waived his NMC to go to 'lumbus.

- Tomahawk

Briere and Bryz already have been bought out. No more CBOs
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
What will Sheena do now?!?!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
How long before hartnell joins Richards, carter and Williams in LA?
- funmaster18


I'm sure that LA has an overrated prospect laying around they could pawn off on Columbus again.
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