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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
It really seems like Schenn against boys out there when he plays
- funmaster18

hmm
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
Good point on his perschenntage.
- feelingkettle

I just want Schenn2shine
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
I think the Flyers are going to dip their toes into Free Agency.
- MJL


It will be interesting to see what they do in free aschenncy
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
I was here when the trade broke. The complete 180 from fans on Hartnell is flat out laughable.
- hereticpride


It is funny. But the main vibe on this thread has always been negative towards the Flyers and how they run the team. I'm curious as to how long it's going to take for Hextall to be turned on?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
I think the Flyers are going to dip their toes into Free Agency.
- MJL


Maybe just their pinky toe. There's not much room left now unless Vinny or Grossmann is traded.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
Does Umberger's and Hartnell's NMC's go with them?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
It is funny. But the main vibe on this thread has always been negative towards the Flyers and how they run the team. I'm curious as to how long it's going to take for Hextall to be turned on?
- MJL

I give him 3 years.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
hmm
- feelingkettle

I would like to beat this to death. And poorly
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
Maybe just their pinky toe. There's not much room left now unless Vinny or Grossmann is traded.
- Feanor


They may not dive in head first, but I believe they will do something.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
It is funny. But the main vibe on this thread has always been negative towards the Flyers and how they run the team. I'm curious as to how long it's going to take for Hextall to be turned on?
- MJL


Can't really fully judge any of this until October.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
I was here when the trade broke. The complete 180 from fans on Hartnell is flat out laughable.
- hereticpride


Umberger has a cap hit of 4.6.
Hartnell for 4.75

Hartnell has 5 years left and I believe Umberger has 3?

So essentially the same cap hit, for 2 years less of a worse player.
I am not a fan of Hartnell to the extreme I have often been the first to call him out for being inconsistent in the most basic parts of his game. I think he and his contract have faults.

However Umberger... Blah
Columbus GM to me took on a couple more years to get the better player. Again, I'd be cool with it but don't like taking Umberger back.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:41 PM ET
After the resigning of B Schenn, does anybody like the Hartnell trade more?

In 2 years, the flyers will have to resign Couturier, Voracek and B Schenn.

If necessary, they can buyout Umberger at that point and only have to pay 1.6m for that year.

More flexibility, more options, more better
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:41 PM ET
They may not dive in head first, but I believe they will do something.
- MJL


Come on hexy, cherry bomb!
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 23 @ 6:41 PM ET
Raffl G Jake
Akeson Schenn Simmer
Umberger Couts Read
Bellemare VL Laughton

is what we are working with right now?

I guess its solid. 2nd line still needs to be sheltered though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
Does Umberger's and Hartnell's NMC's go with them?
- jstross


That depends on if the team trading for them, agrees to keep in place. Technically when a player is traded, all movement clauses are voided. But players can request that the clauses in their deals are kept intact, as part of agreeing to accept a trade.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
I think the Flyers are going to dip their toes into Free Agency.
- MJL

I hope so, but until Vinny's lot is decided, I don't know that it will be more than testing the temperature.
No cannon balls with the vinny anchor
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
Come on hexy, cherry bomb!
- funmaster18

Trade VL and somebody else then make the niskanen plunge
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
Can't really fully judge any of this until October.
- puckhead17


Exactly!
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:43 PM ET
Trade VL and somebody else then make the niskanen plunge
- JoeRussomanno


Dive head first into a new era of flyers hockey
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:43 PM ET
I hope so, but until Vinny's lot is decided, I don't know that it will be more than testing the temperature.
No cannon balls with the vinny anchor

- nails

Maybe they'll pronger him
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 6:43 PM ET
It is funny. But the main vibe on this thread has always been negative towards the Flyers and how they run the team. I'm curious as to how long it's going to take for Hextall to be turned on?
- MJL


it happened about 5 hours ago.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
Dive head first into a new era of flyers hockey
- funmaster18

That wont happen until snider takes a formaldehyde dip.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
That wont happen until snider takes a formaldehyde dip.
- JoeRussomanno


This is his team, sink or swim
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
it happened about 5 hours ago.
- MBFlyerfan


So all of one move huh? Shocking!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:45 PM ET
Does Umberger's and Hartnell's NMC's go with them?
- jstross

no

once they waive to be traded they relinquish the NTC in their deal, according to our blogger
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