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mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:16 PM ET
Schenn guess: 3 years, $9.3mm
- Jsaquella


Per Bob Mckenzie

Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.


Edit - Lait
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:16 PM ET
True true. I just don't like it personally. The Gagne fiasco, trading Carter/Richards/JVR after long term deals. Now Hartnell.

Not that all of those moves were back, but (frank). Better identity your core if you want to commit such contracts to it.

- flyer_nutter


But at some point, when things aren't going right, the core has to change.
I would rather they figure that out early than become the Sharks
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 23 @ 6:16 PM ET
Post your guesses for term and $ for BSchenn

2 yrs 2.5M per

- Marc D

Damn you good

Bob MacKenzie

Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:16 PM ET
Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.

says BMAC

- feelingkettle


Cheap.

If true I like it. 2 years to prove himself.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
I'm sure it'll be the worst contract the flyers ever handed out
- funmaster18

eh im not gonna indict people too much for being negative nancies. the pens still dont have a coach and it makes me want to shout bad things.

regardless, getting him resigned is a good thing
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
Post your guesses for term and $ for BSchenn

2 yrs 2.5M per

- Marc D


Winner winner

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
Schenn guess: 3 years, $9.3mm
- Jsaquella



That's going to be high. I say around 2.5M a year.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
A little curious for all those that say the team isn't re-building.

If I am MacDonald, Streit or Vinny I don't feel super comfortable right now.

Just get a (frank)ing plan and stick to it. All I ask. I can take a few years of a poop team, but stick to some kind of plan.

- flyer_nutter

Vinnie would be gone yesterday but they can't find a taker.

Streit and Amac will be here until the D prospects are ready, at least 3 years.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
True true. I just don't like it personally. The Gagne fiasco, trading Carter/Richards/JVR after long term deals. Now Hartnell.

Not that all of those moves were back, but (frank). Better identity your core if you want to commit such contracts to it.

- flyer_nutter


Tough to identify when it changes every 2 seasons, I don't consider this deal the same as some of the others, this was a bad contract because of the term/age/production, considerations.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:18 PM ET
Cheap.

If true I like it. 2 years to prove himself.

- flyer_nutter



That'll do, Hex. That'll do.

I guess that's a bit of redemption for Flyers fans who are still in an uproar today
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:18 PM ET
True true. I just don't like it personally. The Gagne fiasco, trading Carter/Richards/JVR after long term deals. Now Hartnell.

Not that all of those moves were back, but (frank). Better identity your core if you want to commit such contracts to it.

- flyer_nutter


Haven't they identified the core after the Richards/Carter trades? It looks like to me G, Voracek, Mason, B. Schenn, Coots, and Read. Hartnell's contract extension was based on the season he just completed (career best), it was risky.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:18 PM ET
Damn you good

Bob MacKenzie

Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.

- feelingkettle


Awesome!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:18 PM ET
Wait, what
- Jsaquella


? My post didn't make sense? Not to mention Hartnell was pretty awful in the series against the Rangers, perhaps that played a factor as well.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:18 PM ET
Per Bob Mckenzie

Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.


Edit - Lait

- mcefalu

bah what a wussy for an agent. come on man you couldnt even get 3?

thats a damn good deal for you guys
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:18 PM ET
Winner winner

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Brayden Schenn's new two year deal with PHI pays him $2.25M and $2.75M for an AAV of $2.5M.

- Jsaquella

I am very happy with that.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 6:18 PM ET
? My post didn't make sense? Not to mention Hartnell was pretty awful in the series against the Rangers, perhaps that played a factor as well.
- PLindbergh31


No, but it was so rational and positive
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
A little curious for all those that say the team isn't re-building.

If I am MacDonald, Streit or Vinny I don't feel super comfortable right now.

Just get a (frank)ing plan and stick to it. All I ask. I can take a few years of a poop team, but stick to some kind of plan.

- flyer_nutter


Does getting a plan and sticking too it, mean never making a trade?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
Post your guesses for term and $ for BSchenn

2 yrs 2.5M per

- Marc D

wow good guess
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
So many leights
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
But at some point, when things aren't going right, the core has to change.
I would rather they figure that out early than become the Sharks

- nails


No worries with that.

I could see Hextall trying to clean up a big of the mess Holmgren made with the overpayments.

The last two bigger deals I am just not a fan of. The JVR/Luke Schenn speaks for itself. I can live with dumping Hartnell, but Umberger is shot from what I have seen. Hate taking on that contract.

Really do wonder if they are going to go with a full frontal youth movement. I've been beating that drum for a while.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
bah what a wussy for an agent. come on man you couldnt even get 3?

thats a damn good deal for you guys

- stayinthefnnet

No agent can win against Triple HeXXX
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:20 PM ET
I am very happy with that.
- Marc D


Extremely. It's best for both sides too. Schenn has two years to cash in and te flyers have two more years of an affordable deal to see if he pans out the way they hope. Good bridge deal.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:20 PM ET
So you take on a player with worse numbers and performance cause you only have to sit on him for 3 years? At the same salary?


- flyler


Umberger is not an awful player. Again, If Hextall could've gotten more he would've. It's clear nobody wanted Hartnell without eating salary or taking back another contract. Umberger will fit nicely on the 3rd line and allow Read to move up in the lineup. Coldn't do that with Hartnell.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:20 PM ET
Well Schenns value just went up since he's signed for two years
Being on Dion the horrible
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