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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Adam Proteau @Proteautype · 3h
Flyers owner Ed Snider may be the only person to be inducted into the Hall of Fame twice as a builder – for his team and for other teams.

Adam Proteau @Proteautype · 3h
The Flyers are the NHL's Game of Thrones franchise: when you grow to love one of their characters, they write them out of the plot.

- Pixote Andolini



Lol, common, those are pretty funny
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Maybe the only way the Jackets would take on the 5 years left on Hartnell is if we took their bad deal?
- Jsaquella


I guess saying no was never really an option
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Yeah.

Dude always has an axe to grind with the Flyers and of course a major middle school crush on Snider:

Adam Proteau @Proteautype · 3h
Flyers owner Ed Snider may be the only person to be inducted into the Hall of Fame twice as a builder – for his team and for other teams.

Adam Proteau @Proteautype · 3h
The Flyers are the NHL's Game of Thrones franchise: when you grow to love one of their characters, they write them out of the plot.

- Pixote Andolini


Proteau is a hack. He's like the Dane Cook of hockey writers.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
Maybe the only way the Jackets would take on the 5 years left on Hartnell is if we took their bad deal?
- Jsaquella



Most likely had too. Teams aren't just going to take your bad deal and give you picks.

We have to remember this isn't NHL14. Two gms have to make it work to get a deal done. Can't just say I am taking just picks and you'll like it
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
You complain a lot for someone who hates when people complain in sports events
- funmaster18


Welcome to hockeybuzz.

Just amazes me when these "athletes" act like they're in severe crippling pain after getting brushed against and then are somehow are able to regain the ability to run at full speed.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
I do realize some.would, but I wouldn't. Not this year. I would take the risk on seeing what Schenn is and that the defense we drafted develop.

that's not a bad trade, but I wouldn't pull that trigger...yet

- AllInForFlyers

Problem is this might be the only chance you get to get him. I might throw in another pick if they take VL. But...then again....I might get crucified for that.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
We all know power forwards get so much better with each year over 30.

I mean, look at how well Mike Knuble and ... and ... um ...

did I mention Mike Knuble?

- Moose_15


Wait, there was that other guy.

What was his name...

Oh yeah, Mike Knuble.

Can't forget about him.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
Proteau is a hack. He's like the Dane Cook of hockey writers.
- Jsaquella

Dane Cook< Louis Ck
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
How are we supposed to know what a guy can do when he is only on your team for 7 years?
- funmaster18



Beats me. I guess you'd have to ask the Corsi guys.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
Yeah.

Dude always has an axe to grind with the Flyers and has a major middle school crush on Snider:

Adam Proteau @Proteautype · 3h
Flyers owner Ed Snider may be the only person to be inducted into the Hall of Fame twice as a builder – for his team and for other teams.

Adam Proteau @Proteautype · 3h
The Flyers are the NHL's Game of Thrones franchise: when you grow to love one of their characters, they write them out of the plot.

- Pixote Andolini


Adam Proteau makes Garth seem like a cogent blogger.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
Lol, common, those are pretty funny
- Tomahawk


If he really knew the flyers he would have mentioned sharp and seidenberg too
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
Lindros no HOFamey.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
Problem is this might be the only chance you get to get him. I might throw in another pick if they take VL. But...then again....I might get crucified for that.
- Deasr1


i absolutely do that deal. and i don't look back.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
Welcome to hockeybuzz.

Just amazes me when these "athletes" act like they're in severe crippling pain after getting brushed against and then are somehow are able to regain the ability to run at full speed.

- jmatchett383


coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
The story is he really didn't get along with Berube.

Maybe the best thing is that it's a harbinger that undisciplined and careless play will not be tolerated, even if the guy is a team leader.

- Jsaquella


you know, if that is the case then I actually feel better (not good) about it. Holding people accountable is important and commonly builds a winning attitude in the long run.

As far as the 2 step forward/1 back talk I would suggest that this is still a poor trade if that was the desired outcome. Just take the 4th. I can not find a rationale explanation for why this is a good trade.

BTW: THN's comment is total BS! Hartnell was given more chance then anyone in the organization. He was a penalty machine and I will not be sad to see some of his antics go. Still didn't get value!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Well at the very least this deal gave us something other than VL to talk about!
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
i absolutely do that deal. and i don't look back.
- wilsonecho91

MAybe they can throw in a winger prospect. Or Max P.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Dane Cook< Louis Ck
- jak521


Dane Cook
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Well at the very least this deal gave us something other than VL to talk about!

- BiggE

Somehow he is still being talked about
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Wait, there was that other guy.

What was his name...

Oh yeah, Mike Knuble.

Can't forget about him.

- aflyerpower8



You're Right! I remember Mike Knuble.

I almost forgot about him because there was that other power forward who got better each year after turning 30.

His name was Mike something.

Knuble. That's it. Mike Knuble.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
If he really knew the flyers he would have mentioned sharp and seidenberg too
- PhillySportsGuy


I hear that Flyers fans threw batteries at JD Drew during the 3 NFC Championship Games they lost.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Dane Cook
- Jsaquella

The late great George Carlin for me.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
From THN on the Hartnell/Umberger trade:

All this does is reinforce the notion that, thanks in part to the perpetual impatience of owner Ed Snider, the Flyers won’t succeed at the league’s highest levels because their key components are never allowed to settle in for too long. Players such as Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Sergei Bobrovsky and others have been deemed not good enough for that organization, yet found success relatively quickly once they moved on. You can make the case that, individually, there were good reasons for dealing each of the players they’ve dealt. But when you look at the larger picture, you see a franchise suffering from a horrendous case of restless leg syndrome.

- Pixote Andolini

Which has 0 to do with this trade.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
Problem is this might be the only chance you get to get him. I might throw in another pick if they take VL. But...then again....I might get crucified for that.
- Deasr1


Ha! Man, it's your opinion -- post it. Someone around here isn't gonna like it, no matter what you say, but the more opinions, the better

And if they took Vinny...then maybe I would look.harder, because that deal needs to go
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
you know, if that is the case then I actually feel better (not good) about it. Holding people accountable is important and commonly builds a winning attitude in the long run.

As far as the 2 step forward/1 back talk I would suggest that this is still a poor trade if that was the desired outcome. Just take the 4th. I can not find a rationale explanation for why this is a good trade.

BTW: THN's comment is total BS! Hartnell was given more chance then anyone in the organization. He was a penalty machine and I will not be sad to see some of his antics go. Still didn't get value!

- coffee junkie

Yeah should have gotten back a 2nd and a 3rd. Just the 4th rounder feels like a throw-in.
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