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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Bingo. What's so hard to understand about this? Hextall is beginning the process of unfacking us from Holmers bad deals

Hartnells deal is too long. It's solving a problem 3 years down the line right now.

I think this is also telling that there may be Zero market for vinny. Prob will have another year of him. But make no mistake we were going to take a hit in trading that contract

- Just5

they will have to add assets to move him
eating a million of the deal isn't going to do it in all likelihood
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Incomplete until I see the rest of the offseason. This was just the start
- J35Bacher


How does this set us up "better" for an additional trade?

Yes, we just gained $.15M. What else?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
What scares me is Hextall is going with the youth movement. Hartnell seen Richards and Carter win another cup. Hartnell didn't like the direction the team was going in and requested a trade
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
That makes some sense and that could be it.

Maybe they completely reconstitute the 2nd line around either Couturier or even Vinny?


- johndewar


Or Umberger. I hear he can play anywhere in the lineup.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Ohhhh, so wide left.
- Deasr1



Haha -- well played, sir.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
RJ wanted out of Columbus, right? So you would have thought they would have been in the weaker position.
- wolfhounds


Hell, Umberger has a limited no-trade...both teams might have been stuck. We all know that Hartnell, whether he wanted out or not, was calling his shot, you know?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Yeah. I mean, it worked out so well when we let TB dictate the trade they made with us for Gagne when he was forced out. Nice to know that we're letting our players and the other team dictate the GM's moves.
- jmatchett383


Enjoying the World Cup so far?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
What scares me is Hextall is going with the youth movement. Hartnell seen Richards and Carter win another cup. Hartnell didn't like the direction the team was going in and requested a trade
- Winning



saw
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
RJ wanted out of Columbus, right? So you would have thought they would have been in the weaker position.
- wolfhounds


Even more....they were gonna buy RJ out in all likelihood.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
It's not a good trade. Not trying to defend it, removing emotion and looking at it with logic. The Jackets get a better player with a worse contract. The Flyers get a guy who gives them more flexibility.

Hartnell had a full NMC, Umberger a limited NTC. Hartnell controlled every aspect of where he could go.

- Jsaquella



One step back to take two steps forward... apparently everybody's on board with that until it actually happens.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
What scares me is Hextall is going with the youth movement. Hartnell seen Richards and Carter win another cup. Hartnell didn't like the direction the team was going in and requested a trade
- Winning


I don't usually like what you say, but God help me if this hasn't at least called my bloodlust. It actually makes a bit of sense unlike the rest of the drivel I've read (and written) on here.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
Lindros snubbed from the HHOF once again
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
Matt Brigidi ‏@mattbrigidi 32s

Lindros didn't get in, But Foresberg did

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
One step back to take two steps forward... apparently everybody's on board with that until it actually happens.


- Tomahawk


Hextall beginning to clean up the pile of poop Holmgren left in his lap... Ok, I can get on board now!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
Forsberg, Hasek, Blake & Modano HOFers, along with Burns and Bill McCreary

No Lindros or Recchi
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'm just going to leave this hear.

http://i.imgur.com/PTK7tOJ.png
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
Or Umberger. I hear he can play anywhere in the lineup.
- jmatchett383


/starts rocking back and forth again in office chair

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
What scares me is Hextall is going with the youth movement. Hartnell seen Richards and Carter win another cup. Hartnell didn't like the direction the team was going in and requested a trade
- Winning


Going with our younger more talented players scares you?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
Enjoying the World Cup so far?
- funmaster18


No, I watched 20 minutes (plus whatever arbitrary extra time the referee's dart falls on) and the USA deserved to lose that game. One, they start faking injuries when they should be running out the clock. Two, they let (frank) Face run uncontested down the side line. Three, the 5 men in the box decide to let a guy dance past them into prime scoring position.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Forsberg, Hasek, Blake & Modano HOFers, along with Burns and Bill McCreary

No Lindros or Recchi

- Jsaquella



If only Recchi had diagnosed Lindros' symptoms earlier.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
RJ wanted out of Columbus, right? So you would have thought they would have been in the weaker position.
- wolfhounds

they added a 4th rounder, original offer was a 6th, but Flyers had them by the balls, so CBJ caved in

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Sounds like Hartnell believes more in the direction the Blue Jackets are headed than the path the Flyers are taking. Who would have thought that a few years ago. WOW.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Lindros snubbed from the HHOF once again
- keatondixon


He had no shot this year, not with Modano, Forsberg, and Hasek. He'll get in with a weaker class.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
One step back to take two steps forward... apparently everybody's on board with that until it actually happens.


- Tomahawk


Not even sold it's two steps back. I would have liked to get more cap relief in the short term, but it is an odd one.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Raffl is a nice player to have on the team and can fill in on spot duty, but I want someone more dynamic up there.

I would be OK with trying any one of Read, Schenn or VL (if he remains on the team) if no outside candidates can be found.

- funmaster18



It is possible they want to put Simmonds on the first to play the net in front of Giroux/Jake and help police the liberties taken against them.

Then they can do a Schenn, Raffl and possibly Laughton Line 2. Read/Coots/umburger #3
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