No no no. We're doomed. Hextall's a mo-ron.


- tangent_man

I'm reading Justin Shultz is involved with Oilers talks. and that flyers are indeed preparing for Offer sheet to PK. but its Ek' s bumhole....
- arichardson22

FTFY

I'm thinking the next person who comes into my office with a retarded question (83% of the time) is going to (frank)ing get it.
- jmatchett383

does this stapler make my thighs look fat?

Damn, the sky is FALLING today.

All kidding aside, this deal will most likely not help the team next season, and I'm ok with that. I took Hextall seriously when he said that we may need to take a step a back to move forward. Unlike some on this thread, I don't think the Flyers are just a move or 2 away from being a top contender, but rather that they are a middle of the pack team that is most likely 2 or 3 years away from being a top club.

If that is how Hextall feels as well then I can understand this move, because he is thinking about the make up of the team and their cap situation in 2 or 3 years, not next year.

Like I've said before, what's the worst thing that can happen next year? Missing the playoffs? Well then we have a lottery pick in what is shaping up to be an extremely deep draft featuring at least 2 franchise players. I can live with that.
- BiggE

I agree. I also feel this was probably a deal based on the new system. It is more predicated to skating and defense and they might feel Umberger is a better fit. We have to wait and see. If Hextall swings a couple more deals, ala move Vinny, upgrade wing, then we will all be saying a different thing.

I'd rather eat 50% of it than have Umberger.
- jmatchett383

Lol, step back and reason it out... you might want to take that back.

does this stapler make my thighs look fat?
- stayinthefnnet

More like, "Hey, I finished Step 3. Should I go start Step 4 or should I jump ahead to step 27?"

I'm reading Justin Shultz is involved with Oilers talks. and that flyers are indeed preparing for Offer sheet to PK. but its Ek' s twitter....
- arichardson22

Pretty sure Mason would have just shot himself if he had to put up with Justin Shultz and Hartnell on the ice at the same time.

Hell, the Oilers have tried to have Schultz play a hybrid position between D man and forward because he is so bad in his own end. Do not want.

FTFY
- funmaster18

thanks for the small edit

Pretty sure Mason would have just shot himself if he had to put up with Justin Shultz and Hartnell on the ice at the same time.

Hell, the Oilers have tried to have Schultz play a hybrid position between D man anf forward because he is so bad in his own end. Do not want.
- hereticpride

Not even close to what we need, but I'll certainly take him depending on the cost.

Tons of puck moving ability and a righty.

Lol, step back and reason it out... you might want to take that back.
- Tomahawk

Hell no. Right now, we're paying $4.6M for a guy who couldn't crack the offense of a team weaker at offense than we are in the most important game in franchise history. He was likely going to be bought out, and we could have likely had him and retained 50% of Hartnell for less than his cap hit for the next 3 years,

As for the last 2, I'll just use what everyone else says and say, "Well, with the cap assuredly increasing $55M every year, it won't matter in 4 years."

Hexy said we may have to take a small step back in order to take a giant leap. Not a great trade, but I get it. Less years, more versatility. I get it. Culture change. I mean, their numbers past couple years are close enough. It's not like we traded Giroux(90 point player) for Gaustad(30 point player).

Greztky was only good because he played with Kurri and Robitaille.
- jmatchett383

Obviously... But the guy consistently put up 20+ goals, with multiple line combinations, and hardly missed time with injury. Is he cooked? Possibly but to discredit his body of work is a copout at best.

Damn, the sky is FALLING today.


- MBFlyerfan

Out of respect for hartnell

Hell no. Right now, we're paying $4.6M for a guy who couldn't crack the offense of a team weaker at offense than we are in the most important game in franchise history. He was likely going to be bought out, and we could have likely had him and retained 50% of Hartnell for less than his cap hit for the next 3 years,

As for the last 2, I'll just use what everyone else says and say, "Well, with the cap assuredly increasing $55M every year, it won't matter in 4 years."
- jmatchett383

Maybe they just thought RJ was a bad matchup?

You seem to be the only person letting one playoff series define his entire career...

Out of respect for hartnell
- funmaster18

Hexy said we may have to take a small step back in order to take a giant leap. Not a great trade, but I get it. Less years, more versatility. I get it. Culture change. I mean, thier numbers past couple years are close enough. It's not like we traded Giroux(90 point player) for Gaustad(30 point player).
- Deasr1

If its about culture change i need to have hextall explain exactly what change we're going for. Otherwise this move is dumbfounding because theres cheaper players like umberger out there.

Maybe they just thought RJ was a bad matchup?

You seem to be the only person letting one playoff series define his entire career...
- hereticpride

which is funny considering he got mad money for his playoff series against the Habs in 2008.

More like, "Hey, I finished Step 3. Should I go start Step 4 or should I jump ahead to step 27?"
- jmatchett383

i mean you should consider yourself fortunate to be supervising people with such initiative and foresight.

they sound like management material. you better be careful you dont teach them too well.

Maybe they just thought RJ was a bad matchup?

You seem to be the only person letting one playoff series define his entire career...
- hereticpride

Maybe RJ was injured for that game and he couldn't go that game.

Out of respect for hartnell
- funmaster18

Obviously... But the guy consistently put up 20+ goals, with multiple line combinations, and hardly missed time with injury. Is he cooked? Possibly but to discredit his body of work is a copout at best.
- JoeRussomanno

I haven't seen anyone discredit his work. Just examples that he may not be the player he once was

my pipe deam

Coburn and 1st to Edmonton for their 1st

Edmonton 1st and Vinny to the Blues for Shattenkirk

Maybe they just thought RJ was a bad matchup?

You seem to be the only person letting one playoff series define his entire career...
- hereticpride

Okay. What else has he done since we've let him go? You want to talk about a guy whose production has "fallen off?" Go check Umberger's stats from his first 3 years in Columbus to the last 2. But he's not Hartnell, so OF COURSEhe'll rebound and regain his old form, I'm sure. And it's a sure thing that Hartnell will never ever be any good ever again.

If its about culture change i need to have hextall explain exactly what change we're going for. Otherwise this move is dumbfounding because theres cheaper players like umberger out there.
- JoeRussomanno

True, but we moved a guy with 5 years left who had a NMC. We got back 3 years on a guy people view as "not as good". But maybe Hartnell didn't buy into the system. Berube had been hanging out with Chip Kelly.