So no virtanen thank the gods
- Bigern4MVP

You have no idea who his BPA is? Virtanen may be his most coveted and highest rank. Don't thank any gods just yet.

Eakins biggest mistake was allowing his EGO to get the better of him and he found a way to alienate almost everyone in Edmonton by being an arrogant jerk.
- vetts

I agree. I blame his insanely hot wife for giving him all of this confidence/arrogance.

Barring Trades I still stand by:

1. Florida - Ekblad
2. Buffalo - Bennett
3. Edmonton - Draisaitl
4. Calgary - Reinhart
5. NY Islanders - Dal Colle
6. Vancouver - Nylander
7. Carolina - Kapanen
8. Toronto - Ritchie
9. Winnipeg - Virtanen
10. Anaheim - Ehlers
11. Nashville - Fabbri
12. Arizona - Perlini
13. Washington - Fleury

If not trading up, the best possibilities of gaining another pick in there without giving up 4th are the NY Islanders, Winnipeg, and Anaheim. All teams that I believe would rather contribution now as opposed to waiting for a kid to develop.

I hope the Flames trade 34, 54 and Hudler @ 1/2 salary for #5

Then snipe Ritchie or Dal Colle too!

You mean fire the scouts? I don't know enough about Ritchie to say we shouldn't draft him at 4. There must be a good reason he's high on some teams list.
- The_Janitor

No burke makes the pick not the scouts...

You have no idea who his BPA is? Virtanen may be his most coveted and highest rank. Don't thank any gods just yet.
- TandA4Flames

Well if his BPA right now is virtanen than he needs to fire every scout right now

"I'm hearing more that Stastny will listen to other offers. Possibility he could circle back to Avs, but count me as a pessimist" Adrian Dater

I'd throw bucks at this guy for sure...

No burke makes the pick not the scouts...
- Bigern4MVP

BTL makes the pick and he has said that he's going off of the scouts list

BTL makes the pick and he has said that he's going off of the scouts list
- The_Janitor

You really think burke doesn't have the final say

You really think burke doesn't have the final say
- Bigern4MVP

Yeah that's exactly what I think. He didn't hire a GM just to be his puppet.

Yeah that's exactly what I think. He didn't hire a GM just to be his puppet.
- The_Janitor

Ya he did actually it's burke everyone knows Head of hockey ops is the real GM guys like nonis and treliving are just puppets who go on TV

Ya he did actually it's burke everyone knows Head of hockey ops is the real GM guys like nonis and treliving are just puppets who go on TV
- Bigern4MVP

I think you're the only one who "knows" that.

Ya he did actually it's burke everyone knows Head of hockey ops is the real GM guys like nonis and treliving are just puppets who go on TV
- Bigern4MVP

You do realize that the role of GM hasn't changed right? The only thing that the President of Hockey Operations is, is the dividing of the former presidents responsibilities. Everything that Burke is doing now is the same thing that Ken King has been doing for years, only that now King is focusing on the financial aspects of the business (e.x., details for a new arena, costs, ticket sales, etc.) and Burke is now handling the hockey side of the job. This allows for a more focused and detail analysis of each of the two sides. If Calgary had hired a no name guy to run the hockey ops chances are that nobody would be talking about him like that. Burke is high profile so he gets all the attention.

Treliving will go to Burke for advice, and will run his decisions by Burke but ultimately the decision rests in Treliving's hands. The only situation I see Burke stepping in is if Treliving is about to make a very ill advised decision, or a decision that goes against what ownership is trying to accomplish. Burke will most likely help Treliving seeing as he is a new GM, but at the same time, I doubt he will be a backseat GM or a puppet master as everybody is making him out to be.

Mark Jankowski....How's he developing?


No, really I am being serious.

Mark Jankowski....How's he developing?


No, really I am being serious.
- Glak18

He's good with a broom, needs to work on his mopping.

He's good with a broom, needs to work on his mopping.
- golfingsince

Has he been showing Kadri the ropes?

I think you're the only one who "knows" that.
- The_Janitor

You're the only one who doesn't apparently

He's good with a broom, needs to work on his mopping.
- golfingsince

Developing better than biggs

You do realize that the role of GM hasn't changed right? The only thing that the President of Hockey Operations is, is the dividing of the former presidents responsibilities. Everything that Burke is doing now is the same thing that Ken King has been doing for years, only that now King is focusing on the financial aspects of the business (e.x., details for a new arena, costs, ticket sales, etc.) and Burke is now handling the hockey side of the job. This allows for a more focused and detail analysis of each of the two sides. If Calgary had hired a no name guy to run the hockey ops chances are that nobody would be talking about him like that. Burke is high profile so he gets all the attention.

Treliving will go to Burke for advice, and will run his decisions by Burke but ultimately the decision rests in Treliving's hands. The only situation I see Burke stepping in is if Treliving is about to make a very ill advised decision, or a decision that goes against what ownership is trying to accomplish. Burke will most likely help Treliving seeing as he is a new GM, but at the same time, I doubt he will be a backseat GM or a puppet master as everybody is making him out to be.
- Talking_hockey1

Well said. There's no changing that dumb female genitalias mind though.

Developing better than biggs
- Bigern4MVP

That's fer true

You do realize that the role of GM hasn't changed right? The only thing that the President of Hockey Operations is, is the dividing of the former presidents responsibilities. Everything that Burke is doing now is the same thing that Ken King has been doing for years, only that now King is focusing on the financial aspects of the business (e.x., details for a new arena, costs, ticket sales, etc.) and Burke is now handling the hockey side of the job. This allows for a more focused and detail analysis of each of the two sides. If Calgary had hired a no name guy to run the hockey ops chances are that nobody would be talking about him like that. Burke is high profile so he gets all the attention.

Treliving will go to Burke for advice, and will run his decisions by Burke but ultimately the decision rests in Treliving's hands. The only situation I see Burke stepping in is if Treliving is about to make a very ill advised decision, or a decision that goes against what ownership is trying to accomplish. Burke will most likely help Treliving seeing as he is a new GM, but at the same time, I doubt he will be a backseat GM or a puppet master as everybody is making him out to be.
- Talking_hockey1

What I heard (from the fan 960) is that the owners are putting so much pressure on the GM's that it is hard to make good hockey decisions. The GM's are essentially managing up rather than down. The whole point of the Pres of hockey ops is that they manage the ownership while providing oversite. All the decisions will be made by treviling but from the direction that burke points out.

Basically the old rule of thumb was a coach lasted 3 years and the GM last three coaches.

Now added another person to the mix it will be
Coach lasts 2 years
GM last 2 coaches
Hockey ops last 2 gms

But it will be way more exciting when the first hockey ops pres gets canned. SO many firings will happen at once haha.

No idea what my original point was. pretty sure it had to do with Klimchuck being invited to the world jrs camp.

You do realize that the role of GM hasn't changed right? The only thing that the President of Hockey Operations is, is the dividing of the former presidents responsibilities. Everything that Burke is doing now is the same thing that Ken King has been doing for years, only that now King is focusing on the financial aspects of the business (e.x., details for a new arena, costs, ticket sales, etc.) and Burke is now handling the hockey side of the job. This allows for a more focused and detail analysis of each of the two sides. If Calgary had hired a no name guy to run the hockey ops chances are that nobody would be talking about him like that. Burke is high profile so he gets all the attention.

Treliving will go to Burke for advice, and will run his decisions by Burke but ultimately the decision rests in Treliving's hands. The only situation I see Burke stepping in is if Treliving is about to make a very ill advised decision, or a decision that goes against what ownership is trying to accomplish. Burke will most likely help Treliving seeing as he is a new GM, but at the same time, I doubt he will be a backseat GM or a puppet master as everybody is making him out to be.
- Talking_hockey1

Burke will not be the decision maker despite what Flam3sfan bigern thinks. Burke has said himself they will go by th scouts list and trust their decisions.

Its the same dumb poop we hear all the time about Lowe. It's MacT's team on the ice. Lowe does not pull MacT's strings at all.

Did the Flames decide not to keep Troy Ward or did he just decide that he didn't want to live in New York?

Mark Jankowski....How's he developing?


No, really I am being serious.
- Glak18

His first year of NCAA he was one of the youngest players in college hockey (did ok). In his 2nd year he was one of the leading scorers for a defensive team that could have a solid chance at making the Frozen 4 next year (he was also invited to the World Juniors camp last year which should count for something). We are hoping we see some signs next year that he can become a full time pro (shows flashes but not consistent enough yet). Still a wait and see player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3sCn2ftn48 Heres some of his flashes.

I'm hoping he develops, just to shut some guys up about feaster already

Did the Flames decide not to keep Troy Ward or did he just decide that he didn't want to live in New York?
- flamminghead

I was wondering if that was the case, but from all reports on both sides it sounded like BTL just wanted to get his own guy in there.