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fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Jun 22 @ 8:37 PM ET
Virtanen should be gone.........You might be looking at a Russian if that's the case.
- ob18


Probably, but one can always hope.

That's what they need though.

I'm back after a lengthy absence . . . . finally had to get a cell phone.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:37 PM ET
Want to know what is more dumb? If they need a tiebreaker and the goal differential is the same?



Yeah, they pull the name out of a hat

- Jsaquella

SOCCER
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 8:39 PM ET
Oh. I thought the USA was +1 in goal differntial right now and Ghana was -1, so if Ghana won by 1 goal, and the USA lost by 1 goal they would each have a 0 goal differential.

Regardless, deciding what Country advances by drawing out of a hat is comical under any scenario.

- PLindbergh31


There's 6 tiebreakers,

1. Greatest number of points obtained in all the group matches.
2. Goal difference in the group matches.
3. Greatest number of goals scored in the group matches
4. Goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned
5. Greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned
6. Drawing lots

So specifically, if the US loses 3-0 and Ghana wins 2-0, then it comes down to drawing lots. If the US loses 2-0 & Ghana wins 2-0, the US advances.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 8:39 PM ET
Probably, but one can always hope.

That's what they need though.

I'm back after a lengthy absence . . . . finally had to get a cell phone.

- fls13


They could have a shot at Barbashev or Goldobin at 17.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:44 PM ET
I still cant seravelling believe they didnt win that game

now inhsve to finish my night watching that trainwreck of slop True Blood
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:44 PM ET
There's 6 tiebreakers,

1. Greatest number of points obtained in all the group matches.
2. Goal difference in the group matches.
3. Greatest number of goals scored in the group matches
4. Goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned
5. Greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned
6. Drawing lots

So specifically, if the US loses 3-0 and Ghana wins 2-0, then it comes down to drawing lots. If the US loses 2-0 & Ghana wins 2-0, the US advances.

- Jsaquella


My head is spinning reading that. I guess with there being draws the rules have to be complicated.

Bettman could solve this in 2 mins, penalty kicks.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 8:45 PM ET
My head is spinning reading that. I guess with there being draws the rules have to be complicated.

Bettman could solve this in 2 mins, penalty kicks.

- PLindbergh31


That's how they would decide it if the final game ended in a draw
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:47 PM ET
That's how they would decide it if the final game ended in a draw
- Jsaquella

Didn't the USA chicks lose in penalty kicks to Japan?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:50 PM ET
Probably, but one can always hope.

That's what they need though.

I'm back after a lengthy absence . . . . finally had to get a cell phone.

- fls13


You want him it's likely going to take moving into the top 10.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 8:50 PM ET
Didn't the USA chicks lose in penalty kicks to Japan?
- Giroux_Is_God


Yep...They beat China or somebody on PK's too in the first Women's World Cup
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:51 PM ET
Didn't the USA chicks lose in penalty kicks to Japan?
- Giroux_Is_God



Yes. It was disappointing. Then I remembered I didn't give a poop
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
NHL brass proves its worth again. Only 4 of those boring Flyers-Penguins match-ups (again) but 5 of those Flyers-Hurricanes blood feuds (again).
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:43 PM ET
They could have a shot at Barbashev or Goldobin at 17.
- Jsaquella


You think they have any interest in Tuch?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:45 PM ET
I still cant seravelling believe they didnt win that game

now inhsve to finish my night watching that trainwreck of slop True Blood

- KINGKENZO


I watched the last 20 (+5 or so) minutes. If you're up by a goal and a guy is racing past you for a header, grab that dude's ankle so hard that he feels like you're gonna rip it off. Take the card and deal with the consequences, but under no circumstances do you let him go uncontested.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:50 PM ET
I watched the last 20 (+5 or so) minutes. If you're up by a goal and a guy is racing past you for a header, grab that dude's ankle so hard that he feels like you're gonna rip it off. Take the card and deal with the consequences, but under no circumstances do you let him go uncontested.
- jmatchett383

yea i was screaming to give him a body check or an elbow to the head cause i saw it coming from a mile away
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
yea i was screaming to give him a body check or an elbow to the head cause i saw it coming from a mile away
- 2Real


Have to admit that was a ridiculously good cross by Ronaldo from over 35 yards, just perfect. Bend it like Beckham, my butt, it was an incredible play by an elite player. The first Portugese goal was the real killer with a very bad clear.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:57 PM ET
yea i was screaming to give him a body check or an elbow to the head cause i saw it coming from a mile away
- 2Real


I'm guessing sarcasm? I'm sure the flat-footed (relatively to him) defenders saw him running past them towards the ball. But I guess in soccer, it's more important to stay classy by faking crippling injuries every 2 minutes than to win "dirty" like that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:06 PM ET
You think they have any interest in Tuch?
- ravishingone


Yeah. He's big, goes to the net and can score. Flyers like that.

The more I read, the more I sour a bit on Goldobin. Skill out the ass, but seen too many people questioning his play away from the puck.

I was looking more at 2nd rounder types, but started looking back over the higher level prospects and too many had issues with Goldobin.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:18 PM ET
Yeah. He's big, goes to the net and can score. Flyers like that.

The more I read, the more I sour a bit on Goldobin. Skill out the ass, but seen too many people questioning his play away from the puck.

I was looking more at 2nd rounder types, but started looking back over the higher level prospects and too many had issues with Goldobin.

- Jsaquella


I was just watching a video on Goldobin, and his offensive skill is off the charts. He has a real chance to be a scoring top 6 winger. Sometimes I wonder if Russian prospects suffer from the same stereotypes of lazy defensive play. To his credit, he did come over to play the North American, but apparently Sarnia is a crappy team.

It will be interesting to see what Hexy values in drafting a prospect early in the draft. Size over skill? Puck protection over skating? Grit over creativity? I wouldn't mind the Flyers taking a gamble on a prospect with a little more creativity in his hands then the tough two-way forward who is more grit and guts.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:22 PM ET
I was just watching a video on Goldobin, and his offensive skill is off the charts. He has a real chance to be a scoring top 6 winger. Sometimes I wonder if Russian prospects suffer from the same stereotypes of lazy defensive play. To his credit, he did come over to play the North American, but apparently Sarnia is a crappy team.

It will be interesting to see what Hexy values in drafting a prospect early in the draft. Size over skill? Puck protection over skating? Grit over creativity? I wouldn't mind the Flyers taking a gamble on a prospect with a little more creativity in his hands then the tough two-way forward who is more grit and guts.

- ravishingone


If he was Canadian, he'd be inconsistent. I wouldn't write him off, but I'd slide Milano ahead of him on my wish list, perhaps.

I still really, really like Ivan Barbashev. Skilled guy who works his ass off, at both ends of the ice.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:35 PM ET
If he was Canadian, he'd be inconsistent. I wouldn't write him off, but I'd slide Milano ahead of him on my wish list, perhaps.

I still really, really like Ivan Barbashev. Skilled guy who works his ass off, at both ends of the ice.

- Jsaquella


Those Western Canadian farm boys always get the benefit of the doubt.
What about Scherbak? Seems a little closer to Barbashev according to playing style, I find it funny that still being a teenager his age could hurt him being a tad older. .
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:39 PM ET
Those Western Canadian farm boys always get the benefit of the doubt.
What about Scherbak? Seems a little closer to Barbashev according to playing style, I find it funny that still being a teenager his age could hurt him being a tad older. .

- ravishingone


He's just outside my first group. I haven't seen as much of him as Barbashev. Guarantee OB18 has seen a ton of both
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:52 PM ET
He's just outside my first group. I haven't seen as much of him as Barbashev. Guarantee OB18 has seen a ton of both
- Jsaquella


I know DeAngelo's name has come up in the past. Obviously, he will slip, he looks like a right-handed version of Ghost. Some team is going to get value at the end of the first or early second with this prospect.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:57 PM ET
I know DeAngelo's name has come up in the past. Obviously, he will slip, he looks like a right-handed version of Ghost. Some team is going to get value at the end of the first or early second with this prospect.
- ravishingone


The issue with DeAngelo isn't talent. He's very undisciplined. Loses his cool easily and had issues where he got suspended for using a slur at a teammate. That's what will hurt him.

That said, I'm open to him. Just wary because of Flyers' history in dealing with guys like that-Downie, Maroon, Voce.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 22 @ 11:00 PM ET
I know DeAngelo's name has come up in the past. Obviously, he will slip, he looks like a right-handed version of Ghost. Some team is going to get value at the end of the first or early second with this prospect.
- ravishingone


He seems to be the type of player that is either very good or doesn't make it to the NHL at all which has me wary.
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