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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
Yea I agree... If you sign Leino he has to play on one of the top two lines...

My dream scenario..

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Flyers
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Devin Setoguchi ($3.000m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.200m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Jason Akeson ($1.000m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Tom Gilbert ($2.200m)
Mark Alt ($0.782m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.350m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,765,000; BONUSES: $1,830,833
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,335,000

- jak521


I like it, but I would swap Lauridsen in for Alt as the 7th D. Alt has less experience than the big Dane and I would rather see him playing 20+ minutes a night with the Phantoms than sitting in the press box.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:26 AM ET
A number of players would need to be demoted coming out of camp in order to carry Pronger on the roster until the opening day of the season. Not sure of the waiver status of players such as Akeson and Alt.
- MJL


At the least, I know that Alt, Bellemaire and Laughton are waiver exempt. I'm pretty sure Akeson is not.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:31 AM ET
Yea I agree... If you sign Leino he has to play on one of the top two lines...

My dream scenario..

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Flyers
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Devin Setoguchi ($3.000m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.200m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Jason Akeson ($1.000m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Tom Gilbert ($2.200m)
Mark Alt ($0.782m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.350m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,765,000; BONUSES: $1,830,833
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,335,000

- jak521


I came up with this:

FORWARDS
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.680m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Scottie Upshall ($3.500m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Fayne ($2.150m)
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.800m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,479,762; BONUSES: $1,712,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $520,238

Assumes a Vinny for Upshall trade, exchanged Grossmann for Fayne and allows them to get full value of Pronger LTIR for in season moves. Still lacks number one defenseman, but Fayne is more mobile and better with puck than Grossmann while retaining size.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:33 AM ET
At the least, I know that Alt, Bellemaire and Laughton are waiver exempt. I'm pretty sure Akeson is not.
- BiggE


Akeson is NOT exempt.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:35 AM ET
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.000m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Dominic Moore ($1.650m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Mark Fayne ($2.150m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Zach Redmond ($0.715m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.800m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.41% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($0.990m—22.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
——
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,179,762; BONUSES: $1,712,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,820,238

This was a second roster. It assumes Vinny being dealt with salary retained, Grossmann dealt and a trade of B. Schenn, McGinn, L. Schenn along with 17th overall pick for TJ Brodie and 4th overall pick
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:35 AM ET
I came up with this:

FORWARDS
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.680m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Scottie Upshall ($3.500m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Fayne ($2.150m)
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.800m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,479,762; BONUSES: $1,712,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $520,238

Assumes a Vinny for Upshall trade, exchanged Grossmann for Fayne and allows them to get full value of Pronger LTIR for in season moves. Still lacks number one defenseman, but Fayne is more mobile and better with puck than Grossmann while retaining size.

- Jsaquella


I like this one too, the only change I would make is I'd rather keep Rinaldo as the 13th forward over Rosehill. Also, at some point, you are going to need a 7th dman.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:37 AM ET
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.000m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Dominic Moore ($1.650m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Mark Fayne ($2.150m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Zach Redmond ($0.715m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.800m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.41% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($0.990m—22.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
——
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,179,762; BONUSES: $1,712,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,820,238

This was a second roster. It assumes Vinny being dealt with salary retained, Grossmann dealt and a trade of B. Schenn, McGinn, L. Schenn along with 17th overall pick for TJ Brodie and 4th overall pick

- Jsaquella


Interesting..who would you have in mind with the 4th pick? I would mind Draisatl if he is still on the board.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:38 AM ET
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.000m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Dominic Moore ($1.650m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Mark Fayne ($2.150m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Zach Redmond ($0.715m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.800m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.41% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($0.990m—22.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
——
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,179,762; BONUSES: $1,712,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,820,238

This was a second roster. It assumes Vinny being dealt with salary retained, Grossmann dealt and a trade of B. Schenn, McGinn, L. Schenn along with 17th overall pick for TJ Brodie and 4th overall pick

- Jsaquella


Interesting lineup. I kind of like it. I'd do Rinaldo instead of Rosehill though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:40 AM ET
I like this one too, the only change I would make is I'd rather keep Rinaldo as the 13th forward over Rosehill. Also, at some point, you are going to need a 7th dman.
- BiggE


Can recall Lauridesen or Alt as soon as Pronger goes on the LTIR.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:41 AM ET
Interesting lineup. I kind of like it. I'd do Rinaldo instead of Rosehill though.
- Streit2ThePoint


Either or...I kept Rosehill because he's a heavyweight. Ideally, it'd be Adam Hall instead of either Rinaldo or Rosehill
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:42 AM ET
Interesting..who would you have in mind with the 4th pick? I would mind Draisatl if he is still on the board.
- BiggE


With the 4th pick, my top two targets would be Ehlers and Dal Colle. Draislatl would be 3rd for me.

Not a knock against him, I just think the other two are more explosive
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 23 @ 9:47 AM ET
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.000m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Dominic Moore ($1.650m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Mark Fayne ($2.150m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Zach Redmond ($0.715m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.800m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.41% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($0.990m—22.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
——
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,179,762; BONUSES: $1,712,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,820,238

This was a second roster. It assumes Vinny being dealt with salary retained, Grossmann dealt and a trade of B. Schenn, McGinn, L. Schenn along with 17th overall pick for TJ Brodie and 4th overall pick

- Jsaquella


A lot of stuff going on, but thats a pretty sexy dream.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:49 AM ET
With the 4th pick, my top two targets would be Ehlers and Dal Colle. Draislatl would be 3rd for me.

Not a knock against him, I just think the other two are more explosive

- Jsaquella


I'd be just as happy with Dal Colle as well, though I'd rate Ehlers just a smidge behind him and Draisatl.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
I'd be just as happy with Dal Colle as well, though I'd rate Ehlers just a smidge behind him and Draisatl.
- BiggE


Ehlers can stickhandle in a phone booth and I love the way he plays. Creative, like a waterbug
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:53 AM ET

This was a second roster. It assumes Vinny being dealt with salary retained, Grossmann dealt and a trade of B. Schenn, McGinn, L. Schenn along with 17th overall pick for TJ Brodie and 4th overall pick

- Jsaquella


Maybe Calgary wants Grossmann, too.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
Ehlers can stickhandle in a phone booth and I love the way he plays. Creative, like a waterbug
- Jsaquella


No doubt, and I would have no problem seeing him in orange and black.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:16 AM ET
I'll admit I know zero about Fayne, but everyone seems to really like him. He seems like more of the same, another bottom-4 defender. Would he really be an upgrade over the likes of Coburn/Streit/AMac/Schenn? Just trying to see what he can offer to make the team better.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:18 AM ET
I'll admit I know zero about Fayne, but everyone seems to really like him. He seems like more of the same, another bottom-4 defender. Would he really be an upgrade over the likes of Coburn/Streit/AMac/Schenn? Just trying to see what he can offer to make the team better.
- jmatchett383


The thinking is he'd add more mobility and better puck skills to the second pairing while costing less than Grossmann.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 23 @ 10:22 AM ET
Would anyone throw an OS to one of the young RFA dmen out there. Not sure of teams cap hit but Hextall wants to stay young and not overpay vets. How about something where you only give up 2nd or third round pick. Maybe a team in cap or budget mess can match. Any interest?

J.Shultz
J.Demers
M. Del Zotto
E. Grudbranson
S. Vatanen
B. Dillon
T. Barrie
A. Larsson
S.Despres
D. Olsyn
E. Gelinas
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:24 AM ET
Would anyone throw an OS to one of the young RFA dmen out there. Not sure of teams cap hit but Hextall wants to stay young and not overpay vets. How about something where you only give up 2nd or third round pick. Maybe a team in cap or budget mess can match. Any interest?

J.Shultz
J.Demers
M. Del Zotto
E. Grudbranson
S. Vatanen
B. Dillon
T. Barrie
A. Larsson
S.Despres
D. Olsyn
E. Gelinas

- J35Bacher


I'd go the trade route before an offer sheet. Due to the pitfalls of the offer sheet (7-day match period, overpayment to not be matched, player must agree to sign), it's only used for superstar players, and it rarely works. I'd be interested in trying to trade from Barrie, Despres, or Gelinas. Even though they hate us, the Penguins seem intent on not using Despres, and I think he's a top-4 defenseman right now.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:27 AM ET
Would anyone throw an OS to one of the young RFA dmen out there. Not sure of teams cap hit but Hextall wants to stay young and not overpay vets. How about something where you only give up 2nd or third round pick. Maybe a team in cap or budget mess can match. Any interest?

J.Shultz
J.Demers
M. Del Zotto
E. Grudbranson
S. Vatanen
B. Dillon
T. Barrie
A. Larsson
S.Despres
D. Olsyn
E. Gelinas

- J35Bacher


I'd go trade route first but Barrie would be a good shot to try. I think Larsson is heading to the KHL?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:27 AM ET
Would anyone throw an OS to one of the young RFA dmen out there. Not sure of teams cap hit but Hextall wants to stay young and not overpay vets. How about something where you only give up 2nd or third round pick. Maybe a team in cap or budget mess can match. Any interest?

J.Shultz
J.Demers
M. Del Zotto
E. Grudbranson
S. Vatanen
B. Dillon
T. Barrie
A. Larsson
S.Despres
D. Olsyn
E. Gelinas

- J35Bacher


I'd possibly do a trade where you would "buy low" on a young defenseman, but I wouldn't offer sheet anyone right now.


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
The thinking is he'd add more mobility and better puck skills to the second pairing while costing less than Grossmann.
- Feanor


Is he better (overall) than Coburn, Streit, and AMac when all is taken into consideration? Not knocking the guy, I honestly don't know. I'm not mentioning Kimmo because I'm assuming Fayne would get multiple years and am counting on some of the kids to make the NHL starting next year.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
I don't understand this fascination/love affair people have for Ville Leino. Even at the minimum he is NOT a player that would be a very good fit for a Craig Berube system.

The guy parlayed one good regular season and playoff into a monster contract in Buffalo, where he proceeded to LITERALLY steal money from them for 3 seasons.

We do not want Ville Leino.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
I don't understand this fascination/love affair people have for Ville Leino. Even at the minimum he is NOT a player that would be a very good fit for a Craig Berube system.

The guy parlayed one good regular season and playoff into a monster contract in Buffalo, where he proceeded to LITERALLY steal money from them for 3 seasons.

We do not want Ville Leino.

- MBFlyerfan

Yeah I kinda have to agree. I'll pass.
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