We don't need Briere or Letang
- SABRES 89

True, but I think some players we do have, it would make little to no sense in trading

Myers
Girgensons
Ristolainen
Armia
Compher

Unless you are getting a bonafide stud I wouldn't include any of the above
- sbroads24

girgens and risto are the only two I would think twice on moving, if the return was a stud up front

Agreed, I think the only untouchable thing we have isn't even a player yet, our 2015 1st
- Sabresfan-365

our 2015 1st, and the 2015 islanders 1st

girgens and risto are the only two I would think twice on moving, if the return was a stud up front
- homiedclown

I wouldn't move Risto at all. He's the Finnish Brent Seabrook

So myers is an untouchable player on your team in your opinion. Just curious if The flyers approached buffalo about myers and say stewart, I like stewart, what would the flyers have to include to make a deal?
- jmdodgeser4

As close to being untouchable as you can get without being untouchable.

Nobody is untouchable on this team
- SABRES 89

But Myers could probably just be considered untouchable because nobody will pay what it will most likely cost to get him.

As close as being untouchable as you can get without being untouchable.
- Herzeleid

I just dont see him being untouchable. There arent many that are. I would deal voracak for the right deal. Even simmonds. Not g. B schenn /coots for right deal. I dont really think you can even put myers in the same catagory as giroux as great players.

Sportsnet has their Top 30 Draft List and this is going to make some Reinhart lovers frown. A huge surprise at 3.

Top 10
1. Bennett
2. Ekblad
3. Ritchie
4. Draisaitl
5. Reinhart
6. Dal Colle
7. Virtanen
8. Ehlers
9. Nylander
10. Kapanen

“The separation between Bennett and Reinhart goes two ways. One, Reinhart’s skating gets docked a mark…something that maybe improves with more strength and work. Two, Reinhart doesn’t make players around him better the way Bennett does… That won’t change at the next level.”

– SCOUT

But the pick here is Bennett over Ekblad, just as the pick here last year was Nathan MacKinnon over Seth Jones.

It comes down to positional bias. If not immediately, a skilled 18-year-old forward at this level is a year away from helping a team (and more to the point, a GM under the gun). Moreover, a centre who can both finish chances and service wingers makes players around him better by his presence. That’s how scouts project Bennett at the next level. “He plays for Doug Gilmour and wears [Gilmour’s] number, but really it’s not out of line,” one Ontario-based scout says. “Bennett has the same compete level, the same fire and skill, and probably has even better hands. He’s not big but he has huge heart, a huge motor.”

In contrast, a blueliner’s development will almost certainly be more protracted—perhaps he can step in and play right away, but he very rarely improves your team significantly as a first- or second-year player. History speaks to this—Drew Doughty was an exception in L.A., but Zach Bogosian, Victor Hedman, Erik Gudbranson and Erik Johnson? In the case of Hedman, No. 2 in 2009, we saw him emerge as an effective top-pair “D” this season—his rival for the top slot was John Tavares, a Hart Trophy finalist a year ago.

More than position divides Bennett and Ekblad, mind you. During testing at the NHL combine, the physically immature Bennett failed in his single attempt at a pull-up, the one great comic moment at the event.

Meanwhile, Ekblad looked like a 10-year NHL veteran who wandered into the venue. Remarked one scout: “That’s a kid who would never get carded.” This would seem to be all to Ekblad’s advantage. The opposite is true in some scouts’ minds.

Said one scouting director whose view was echoed by others in the trade: “Ekblad is just too strong for players in junior hockey. He’s a man in a boy’s league. It’s another thing when he moves up to the next level and has to play against other men. He won’t be overpowering Milan Lucic. NHLers push back. Ekblad will get stronger, but how much stronger and how long is it going to take?”
The scouts who rated Ekblad No. 1 slotted Bennett right behind him. A couple of scouts whose first choice was
Bennett had Ekblad at No. 3 and 4 on their lists. Said one: “You want a franchise defenceman to be a first power-play point man. Ekblad has the big shot [to fill that role], but I don’t know if he handles the puck well enough or is creative enough to do that for you.”

A veteran scouting director suggests that those who have downgraded Ekblad are guilty of over-thinking: “He’s been the first overall for me from day one. As an under-ager he was the best defenceman on the [Canadian team at the] world juniors. End of story. It’s just that he’s over-scouted by now. He came into the Ontario Hockey League at 15 [on an exceptional-player exemption] and everyone has seen him for three years. We all know what he is, but people start picking him apart, just like they did with Tavares.”

If the first overall pick will be the ultimate gut-check this year, then some scouts and executives are bound to regard No. 2 as the easiest.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-nhl-draft-rankings-1-10/

Sportsnet has their Top 30 Draft List and this is going to make some Reinhart lovers frown. A huge surprise at 3.

Top 10
1. Bennett
2. Ekblad
3. Ritchie
4. Draisaitl
5. Reinhart
6. Dal Colle
7. Virtanen
8. Ehlers
9. Nylander
10. Kapanen

“The separation between Bennett and Reinhart goes two ways. One, Reinhart’s skating gets docked a mark…something that maybe improves with more strength and work. Two, Reinhart doesn’t make players around him better the way Bennett does… That won’t change at the next level.”

– SCOUT

But the pick here is Bennett over Ekblad, just as the pick here last year was Nathan MacKinnon over Seth Jones.

It comes down to positional bias. If not immediately, a skilled 18-year-old forward at this level is a year away from helping a team (and more to the point, a GM under the gun). Moreover, a centre who can both finish chances and service wingers makes players around him better by his presence. That’s how scouts project Bennett at the next level. “He plays for Doug Gilmour and wears
- GilPerreault11[Gilmour’s] number, but really it’s not out of line,” one Ontario-based scout says. “Bennett has the same compete level, the same fire and skill, and probably has even better hands. He’s not big but he has huge heart, a huge motor.”

In contrast, a blueliner’s development will almost certainly be more protracted—perhaps he can step in and play right away, but he very rarely improves your team significantly as a first- or second-year player. History speaks to this—Drew Doughty was an exception in L.A., but Zach Bogosian, Victor Hedman, Erik Gudbranson and Erik Johnson? In the case of Hedman, No. 2 in 2009, we saw him emerge as an effective top-pair “D” this season—his rival for the top slot was John Tavares, a Hart Trophy finalist a year ago.

More than position divides Bennett and Ekblad, mind you. During testing at the NHL combine, the physically immature Bennett failed in his single attempt at a pull-up, the one great comic moment at the event.

Meanwhile, Ekblad looked like a 10-year NHL veteran who wandered into the venue. Remarked one scout: “That’s a kid who would never get carded.” This would seem to be all to Ekblad’s advantage. The opposite is true in some scouts’ minds.

Said one scouting director whose view was echoed by others in the trade: “Ekblad is just too strong for players in junior hockey. He’s a man in a boy’s league. It’s another thing when he moves up to the next level and has to play against other men. He won’t be overpowering Milan Lucic. NHLers push back. Ekblad will get stronger, but how much stronger and how long is it going to take?”
The scouts who rated Ekblad No. 1 slotted Bennett right behind him. A couple of scouts whose first choice was
Bennett had Ekblad at No. 3 and 4 on their lists. Said one: “You want a franchise defenceman to be a first power-play point man. Ekblad has the big shot [to fill that role], but I don’t know if he handles the puck well enough or is creative enough to do that for you.”

A veteran scouting director suggests that those who have downgraded Ekblad are guilty of over-thinking: “He’s been the first overall for me from day one. As an under-ager he was the best defenceman on the [Canadian team at the] world juniors. End of story. It’s just that he’s over-scouted by now. He came into the Ontario Hockey League at 15 [on an exceptional-player exemption] and everyone has seen him for three years. We all know what he is, but people start picking him apart, just like they did with Tavares.”

If the first overall pick will be the ultimate gut-check this year, then some scouts and executives are bound to regard No. 2 as the easiest.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-nhl-draft-rankings-1-10/

TM is being very quiet lately about both Sams. He's taking one of them.

TM is being very quiet lately about both Sams. He's taking one of them.
- sippyd

I bet you an avatar he stays away from Reinhart

I bet you an avatar he stays away from Reinhart
- GilPerreault11

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart




EDIT: I don't know if there were more but this is the most updated one I have.
We still need a deadline, how long ect. and more people.

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
- Herzeleid

Bennett

I bet you an avatar he stays away from Reinhart
- GilPerreault11

I personally don't care which one he takes. They both have a lot of positives.

Bennett
- GilPerreault11

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennet

I personally don't care which one he takes. They both have a lot of positives.
- sippyd

But bets are fun

Sportsnet has their Top 30 Draft List and this is going to make some Reinhart lovers frown. A huge surprise at 3.

Top 10
1. Bennett
2. Ekblad
3. Ritchie
4. Draisaitl
5. Reinhart
6. Dal Colle
7. Virtanen
8. Ehlers
9. Nylander
10. Kapanen

“The separation between Bennett and Reinhart goes two ways. One, Reinhart’s skating gets docked a mark…something that maybe improves with more strength and work. Two, Reinhart doesn’t make players around him better the way Bennett does… That won’t change at the next level.”

– SCOUT

But the pick here is Bennett over Ekblad, just as the pick here last year was Nathan MacKinnon over Seth Jones.

It comes down to positional bias. If not immediately, a skilled 18-year-old forward at this level is a year away from helping a team (and more to the point, a GM under the gun). Moreover, a centre who can both finish chances and service wingers makes players around him better by his presence. That’s how scouts project Bennett at the next level. “He plays for Doug Gilmour and wears
- GilPerreault11[Gilmour’s] number, but really it’s not out of line,” one Ontario-based scout says. “Bennett has the same compete level, the same fire and skill, and probably has even better hands. He’s not big but he has huge heart, a huge motor.”

In contrast, a blueliner’s development will almost certainly be more protracted—perhaps he can step in and play right away, but he very rarely improves your team significantly as a first- or second-year player. History speaks to this—Drew Doughty was an exception in L.A., but Zach Bogosian, Victor Hedman, Erik Gudbranson and Erik Johnson? In the case of Hedman, No. 2 in 2009, we saw him emerge as an effective top-pair “D” this season—his rival for the top slot was John Tavares, a Hart Trophy finalist a year ago.

More than position divides Bennett and Ekblad, mind you. During testing at the NHL combine, the physically immature Bennett failed in his single attempt at a pull-up, the one great comic moment at the event.

Meanwhile, Ekblad looked like a 10-year NHL veteran who wandered into the venue. Remarked one scout: “That’s a kid who would never get carded.” This would seem to be all to Ekblad’s advantage. The opposite is true in some scouts’ minds.

Said one scouting director whose view was echoed by others in the trade: “Ekblad is just too strong for players in junior hockey. He’s a man in a boy’s league. It’s another thing when he moves up to the next level and has to play against other men. He won’t be overpowering Milan Lucic. NHLers push back. Ekblad will get stronger, but how much stronger and how long is it going to take?”
The scouts who rated Ekblad No. 1 slotted Bennett right behind him. A couple of scouts whose first choice was
Bennett had Ekblad at No. 3 and 4 on their lists. Said one: “You want a franchise defenceman to be a first power-play point man. Ekblad has the big shot [to fill that role], but I don’t know if he handles the puck well enough or is creative enough to do that for you.”

A veteran scouting director suggests that those who have downgraded Ekblad are guilty of over-thinking: “He’s been the first overall for me from day one. As an under-ager he was the best defenceman on the [Canadian team at the] world juniors. End of story. It’s just that he’s over-scouted by now. He came into the Ontario Hockey League at 15 [on an exceptional-player exemption] and everyone has seen him for three years. We all know what he is, but people start picking him apart, just like they did with Tavares.”

If the first overall pick will be the ultimate gut-check this year, then some scouts and executives are bound to regard No. 2 as the easiest.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-nhl-draft-rankings-1-10/

And TSN takes Reinhart - So which sports network has better experts ?

I would rather go with the sure thing that has Hockey smarts . He can work on his skating at the Harbor center
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/story/?id=453869

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennet
- Herzeleid

Put me down for Reinhart

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennet
- Herzeleid

Trade.

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennet
- Herzeleid

Trade.

Put me down for Reinhart
- Maximum Signal

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennet
Maximum Signal - Reinhart
evatnorth - Trade

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisitl
pegulaville - Draisitl
herzeleid - Draisitl
rover16 - Bennet
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart

Bennett


EDIT: I don't know if there were more but this is the most updated one I have.
We still need a deadline, how long ect. and more people.
- Herzeleid

I would like to trade down, but I would want 2nd rounders... maybe 39 and 49 or 31 and 61

Pittsburgh was bounced in the second round by the NY Rangers and the window for the Crosby/Evgeni Malkin era is beginning to close.

That window will be open until they are 35. It's not their fault that the coach didn't know how to adjust mid-game and their goalie (save for the Rangers series) has been a shell of a beer league goalie for the last 4 years in the playoffs.

Dal Colle is going to be the biggest steal in this draft after the top 3.