TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Brick City, NJ Joined: 10.05.2011
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How about that huge deal supposed to be done no later then this afternoon??? - Daddichronic
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ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.16.2008
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LOL GTFO Sharp is leaps and bounds better than Spezza, has two cups under his belt and isn't an injury machine. Really doubting Sharp would be happy at all going to Ottawa, that place is a mess, Isn't Sharp too rich for their blood? Wouldn't they rather some AHL players? That's what they seem to be doing every year besides the odd mediocre free agent aquistion - Mushton89
Yep, he's so much better as an individual player, which is why you use team accomplishments as his most important achievements. When did Sharp ever get to the top 5 in NHL scoring?
I doubt this deal happens for a couple of reasons: first, Ottawa doesn't have a third round pick this year, it was traded to acquire Hemsky. Giving up the 2nd we have left would mean we have no picks in the first 3 rounds in this draft year, something which for a rebuilding/retooling team is not something they would do. Second, we are looking for a quantity over quality trade, something like Bickell, Oduya and a high pick (top two rounds) or something similar.
All we get out of this is a guy who would be as happy to play here as Spezza would be next year and a lack of potential prospects coming through our system, something a team like ours with budget issues needs to stay competitive.
A first line of Sharp-Turris-Ryan would be sweet though.
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MnGump
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Columbus, MN Joined: 06.21.2012
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Bye Bye Brad. Call Bettman for an apology since he and his boys changed the rules. You will undoubtedly give some other team a huge bang for their bucks. Good luck to you. - TJ
This is exactly why guys over 30 shouldn't be offered max contract deals. We've seen it become more common over the last few years with guys like Richards, Heatley, Lecavalier to name just a few where career all-stars rapidly tail off to become mediocre at best players being grossly over paid.
Prime example of why I don't want the Wild to sign Vanek. He's already showing signs of tailing off. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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This is exactly why guys over 30 shouldn't be offered max contract deals. We've seen it become more common over the last few years with guys like Richards, Heatley, Lecavalier to name just a few where career all-stars rapidly tail off to become mediocre at best players being grossly over paid.
Prime example of why I don't want the Wild to sign Vanek. He's already showing signs of tailing off. - MnGump
Exactly. |
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StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Buffalo Grove, IL Joined: 03.07.2013
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Nope. Guaranteed contracts are the only thing that is going to keep owners honest. - MnGump
How so?
Aren't the players supposed to be responsible for their level of play as well? |
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EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Denver, CO Joined: 02.19.2014
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Yep, he's so much better as an individual player, which is why you use team accomplishments as his most important achievements. When did Sharp ever get to the top 5 in NHL scoring?
I doubt this deal happens for a couple of reasons: first, Ottawa doesn't have a third round pick this year, it was traded to acquire Hemsky. Giving up the 2nd we have left would mean we have no picks in the first 3 rounds in this draft year, something which for a rebuilding/retooling team is not something they would do. Second, we are looking for a quantity over quality trade, something like Bickell, Oduya and a high pick (top two rounds) or something similar.
All we get out of this is a guy who would be as happy to play here as Spezza would be next year and a lack of potential prospects coming through our system, something a team like ours with budget issues needs to stay competitive.
A first line of Sharp-Turris-Ryan would be sweet though. - ahjnkn
spezza's value diminishes bc he is a UFA after next year....sharp is signed for 3 more years at under 6 mil for a 1st LW....that is why this trade is fair bc the Hawks assume risk by trading for a soon to be UFA
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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This is exactly why guys over 30 shouldn't be offered max contract deals. We've seen it become more common over the last few years with guys like Richards, Heatley, Lecavalier to name just a few where career all-stars rapidly tail off to become mediocre at best players being grossly over paid.
Prime example of why I don't want the Wild to sign Vanek. He's already showing signs of tailing off. - MnGump
Always said if Statsny does not resign in Colorado he is headed to Rangers for big numbers. If not Stastny, Rangers become big players for Kesler.
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Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly , PA Joined: 05.15.2012
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Welcome to Eklund - TheJerseyDevil1
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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spezza's value diminishes bc he is a UFA after next year....sharp is signed for 3 more years at under 6 mil for a 1st LW....that is why this trade is fair bc the Hawks assume risk by trading for a soon to be UFA - EnzoD
Anahiem is not going to let Chicago have Spezza. Everything is about Ottawa wanting their #1 pick (10) back and Anahiem trying to get them to take their very late pick. All Chicago does by getting involved is push up the price on Spezza. But, in the end it is Anahiem's deal. |
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spezza's value diminishes bc he is a UFA after next year....sharp is signed for 3 more years at under 6 mil for a 1st LW....that is why this trade is fair bc the Hawks assume risk by trading for a soon to be UFA - EnzoD Sharp is a good player but he doesnt fit what ottawa is trying to do .We are in the market for a young tough winger ,good two way top 9 center or a defenseman.As part of or depending the quality of the player a 1 for 1 swap
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Bye Bye Brad. Call Bettman for an apology since he and his boys changed the rules. You will undoubtedly give some other team a huge bang for their bucks. Good luck to you. - TJ
Wouldnt be a problem if Richards lived up to his end of the deal. But yeah just Bettman's fault... |
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Sharp is 33 in December.
Basically you get him for 3 years at $5.9. After that it's likely he isn't the same player.
I would do the deal based on two facts: Sharp is a great fit on Ottawa, brings a good amount of offensive output if it was a straight up package, and would be a good vet for the forward group
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Can you imagine Saad-Toews-Kane on one line, Bickell-Spezza-Hossa on the other - AlfieisKing
Bickell NEEDS Kane or Toews on his line to produce at all... He can't even complete a pass, he does have a knack for scoring but he needs superstars |
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Thoralfie
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Big Dick Bobby Ryan Joined: 08.27.2013
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I would do that trade in a heart beat. Sharp would be a great fit in Ottawa and I hope Spezza would do well there. It could be a win-win trade but I think Ottawa gets the better player. However, Spezza would do a lot better in Chicago than he would here. I don't know how true this rumour is but it kind of makes sense. Let's say we throw in Greening to make that deal happen? Go |
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I would do that trade in a heart beat. Sharp would be a great fit in Ottawa and I hope Spezza would do well there. It could be a win-win trade but I think Ottawa gets the better player. However, Spezza would do a lot better in Chicago than he would here. I don't know how true this rumour is but it kind of makes sense. Let's say we throw in Greening to make that deal happen? Go - Thoralfie Cant see it we give up the younger player and picks not to mention iam sure chicago wants us to eat 3mil of spezza,s cap number .For an older winger
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Raven33
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S. Joined: 11.12.2008
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Cant see it we give up the younger player and picks not to mention iam sure chicago wants us to eat 3mil of spezza,s cap number .For an older winger - top shelf 15
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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I would do that trade in a heart beat. Sharp would be a great fit in Ottawa and I hope Spezza would do well there. It could be a win-win trade but I think Ottawa gets the better player. However, Spezza would do a lot better in Chicago than he would here. I don't know how true this rumour is but it kind of makes sense. Let's say we throw in Greening to make that deal happen? Go - Thoralfie
If I were Murray I would try to flip Sharp so fast it would make your head spin. First choice would be to send him to Winnipeg for Kane. Ottawa wants a physical player, Sharp is not.
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ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.16.2008
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spezza's value diminishes bc he is a UFA after next year....sharp is signed for 3 more years at under 6 mil for a 1st LW....that is why this trade is fair bc the Hawks assume risk by trading for a soon to be UFA - EnzoD
The way I read this was that the trade would only be completed if the conditional pick is included and he signs with you (it would fit Spezza's goals of playing for a winning team and not being the face of a franchise). I never said the trade was unfair (far from it, just responding to a Leaf fan who was trying to undersell Spezza), but the components outside of Spezza and Sharp would need to change a bit for the trade to work while not crippling the future of our farm system in 2-3 years. Maybe we throw in Greening and a prospect instead of the picks and CHI adds another piece like Versteeg.
Was also wondering how fans have rated Roszival in Chicago. Would he be a trade piece to negotiate with? |
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bjpgallagher
New York Islanders |
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Location: East Rockaway, NY Joined: 06.04.2014
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If I were Murray I would try to flip Sharp so fast it would make your head spin. First choice would be to send him to Winnipeg for Kane. Ottawa wants a physical player, Sharp is not. - spatso
Flip him to Long Island for the #5 pick |
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He got paid however, he made like 58mil with the buyout.Not too bad for three years work
- top shelf 15
Isnt that a crime... That man should have to go to the minor league system like Bryz did... Just to embarrass himself a bit... (frank)ing loser... Do the rangers even have buyouts remaining now or used em on Redden and Richards now?? |
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AlfieFever
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada Joined: 06.30.2007
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If it happens, make Sharp captain. |
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Bickell NEEDS Kane or Toews on his line to produce at all... He can't even complete a pass, he does have a knack for scoring but he needs superstars - jackoc150
God damn Clarkson 2.0 |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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Doubt Sharp would retract NMC for OTT, or many other places. If i were a Blackhawk right now, the only place I'd even think about going is LA.
Also, JJ has more rumors on a Kesler/Sharp thing again.
Sounds like Kane joined the forum yesterday and saw SB was rumored to be standing pat as activity on a true 2C is high again! - dsav123
I wouldn't do Spezza for Sharp straight up, these people are delusional. |
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TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 05.07.2014
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Oh yeah, Sharp is leaps and bounds for sure. Tell me how Sharp is going to put up 65-75 points playing with Turris? Yeah, that's what I thought. Spezza is a career point a game player, #1C and tremendous playmaker with exceptional vision. Sharp is not better than Jason Spezza. - thirstyfin
Let these morons think whatever they want to. Spezza is way better than Sharp offensively. Defensively is a different subject. |
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God damn Clarkson 2.0 - .HOHO.
This... |
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