I do kinda want something interesting to happen today because I'd like to continue procrastinating writing this review...
- FlyersGrace

No but four rights can make a square
- BiggE

I'm not even sure I follow the logic -- "Yes, Scott Hartnell is a better player than Steve Ott -- by far, IMO -- but we should sign Steve Ott and overlook his flaws because he and Hartnell are the same age and play a similar style."
- AllInForFlyers

Non sequitur

I would almost think he would be looking in the 2.5 - 3 range
- J35Bacher

For all of the people who were screaming that Talbot was a better fit for the 4th line than the third, you'll be thinking that Talbot was a 50-goal scorer in comparison to Ott on the 3rd line. He's a 4th liner who will want 3rd line money.

Its so simple

All we need to do is perfect human cloning, get a few cells from Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull and we got ourselves a dynasty!




Sadly, this is what happens when I have way too much caffeine in the morning!

Tweet Leo Komarov and lets influence a deal. Power to the People. Lets be the first fan base to get a trade done.


Raise up

I need a drink


I need action

I am soooo bored at work right now

Its so simple

All we need to do is perfect human cloning, get a few cells from Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull and we got ourselves a dynasty!




Sadly, this is what happens when I have way too much caffeine in the morning!
- BiggE

You can shave about 25 goals a season off of Hull is you account for modern-day stick curve allowances.

Bill,

Sorry if it feels like I'm shoving Steve Ott down everyone's throat which is not my intent but I do want your opinion of Steve Ott because you covered the Dallas Stars and followed him closely for quite some time. Do you think there is a fit here if the price is right?
- SuperSchennBros

Yes, there's a fit. But I am leery of the price tag (even though he is coming off a so-so season). Ott is a player you stop "hating" and start appreciating when he's on your side. Good guy off the ice, too.

Just because Hartnell signed a long term deal at the same age doesn't mean the Flyers should sign Ott long term.
- PhillySportsGuy

Are you even reading my posts from beginning to end? I never indicated giving Ott Scott Hartnell money for Scott Hartnell years.

If you really need a picture painted, here we go.

If the Flyers really are into in Steve Ott I would go no further then 2.25 for 4 or 5 years. You believe he expects 3 million, I think we agree he shouldn't get it (although, I think your making up your own ideas of what I think). I look at what MacDonald signed for, I think that's too much. I look at what Grossmann and Schenn have, this might be a little much for the two of them, granted all three play D. I actually feel Hartnell took a lesser hit then he could have made on the open market. Simmonds definitely took less. Simmonds gave away 7 years.

Yes, there's a fit. But I am leery of the price tag (even though he is coming off a so-so season). Ott is a player you stop "hating" and start appreciating when he's on your side. Good guy off the ice, too.
- bmeltzer

Bam! You said it far fewer words then I did yesterday. I think Bill, Jsaq, MJL and myself have all said the same thing and we all butt heads.

Steve Ott is my guy.

Are you even reading my posts from beginning to end? I never indicated giving Ott Scott Hartnell money for Scott Hartnell years.

If you really need a picture painted, here we go.

If the Flyers really are into in Steve Ott I would go no further then 2.25 for 4 or 5 years. You believe he expects 3 million, I think we agree he shouldn't get it (although, I think your making up your own ideas of what I think). I look at what MacDonald signed for, I think that's too much. I look at what Grossmann and Schenn have, this might be a little much for the two of them, granted all three play D. I actually feel Hartnell took a lesser hit then he could have made on the open market. Simmonds definitely took less. Simmonds gave away 7 years.
- SuperSchennBros

I don't know what this has to do with signing Ott. I think thats the point I was making.

Also, no way I sign Ott for that kind of deal. 2 years max and under $2M.

You can shave about 25 goals a season off of Hull is you account for modern-day stick curve allowances.
- jmatchett383

I don't know what this has to do with signing Ott. I think thats the point I was making.

Also, no way I sign Ott for that kind of deal. 2 years max and under $2M.
- PhillySportsGuy

I have no interest in Ott, I'd rather go after Pouliot for the 3rd line LW spot.

Bam! You said it far fewer words then I did yesterday. I think Bill, Jsaq, MJL and myself have all said the same thing and we all butt heads.

Steve Ott is my guy.
- SuperSchennBros

It's OK to want Steve Ott, just as it's OK to think the player is in decline.

Neither of those are inherently right or wrong.

Are you even reading my posts from beginning to end? I never indicated giving Ott Scott Hartnell money for Scott Hartnell years.

If you really need a picture painted, here we go.

If the Flyers really are into in Steve Ott I would go no further then 2.25 for 4 or 5 years. You believe he expects 3 million, I think we agree he shouldn't get it (although, I think your making up your own ideas of what I think). I look at what MacDonald signed for, I think that's too much. I look at what Grossmann and Schenn have, this might be a little much for the two of them, granted all three play D. I actually feel Hartnell took a lesser hit then he could have made on the open market. Simmonds definitely took less. Simmonds gave away 7 years.
- SuperSchennBros

FIVE YEARS!?!? What the crap is that all about? That's almost as bad as some of Winning or 2Real's ideas.

I have no interest in Ott, I'd rather go after Pouliot for the 3rd line LW spot.
- BiggE

If I'm kicking out the cash, that is what I'd do

I have no interest in Ott, I'd rather go after Pouliot for the 3rd line LW spot.
- BiggE

Neither do I. To me, he's a luxury signing. I would much rather find a third line, two-way winger with speed and more of a finishing touch. Guys like Kulemin, Pouliot, etc match that description and will probably be cheaper than Ott.

I don't know what this has to do with signing Ott. I think thats the point I was making.

Also, no way I sign Ott for that kind of deal. 2 years max and under $2M.
- PhillySportsGuy

Well we definitely disagree because he's not just your average grinder.

Agree of disagree 2.25 I'd be fine with for no more then 4 or 5 years.

As for my examples in price tags. Some guys make too much, some make not enough, which is mypoint.

FIVE YEARS!?!? What the crap is that all about? That's almost as bad as some of Winning or 2Real's ideas.
- jmatchett383

We gave Max Talbot five years.

It's OK to want Steve Ott, just as it's OK to think the player is in decline.

Neither of those are inherently right or wrong.
- AllInForFlyers

I want James Neal to blow out his knee on the golf course this summer. Hopefully that is ok too!

Neither do I. To me, he's a luxury signing. I would much rather find a third line, two-way winger with speed and more of a finishing touch. Guys like Kulemin, Pouliot, etc match that description and will probably be cheaper than Ott.
- PhillySportsGuy

Cheaper, younger, and likely will produce more. Although they're our "shutdown" line, Couturier and Read have offensive talent. I don't want Steve Ott dragging them down.

Everyone tweet LEO Komorav and tell him to reach out to Flyers. Save us from signing Ott.

I started his fan club and it doesn't look like TO will be signing him
- J35Bacher

He'd be a much better signing than Ott.

I really hope Berube is serious about getting his team to stop being so undisciplined.

We gave Max Talbot five years.
- SuperSchennBros

Yes. He was 27. Ott will be 32 this summer.

Neither do I. To me, he's a luxury signing. I would much rather find a third line, two-way winger with speed and more of a finishing touch. Guys like Kulemin, Pouliot, etc match that description and will probably be cheaper than Ott.
- PhillySportsGuy

So for tomorrow: Megadeath or Slayer?

We gave Max Talbot five years.
- SuperSchennBros

And that term should not have happened, and that deal has been moved, with neither party harmed