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Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:08 PM ET
Wait, what!?
<=confused

- jmatchett383

You... Buy.... Slim Jim's... Mail to me.... I eat ...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 2:09 PM ET
In a nutshell, I think his point is that Ott is an unrealistic possibility right now because his cap hit and length of term would not fit with his vision of this team and its current financial restrictions and roster makeup. If you say, "They should get him becuase I want him but they probably can't," then that's fine, and a good debate. But as far as discussing the process by which he could realistically be acquired is what has people in an uproar.
- jmatchett383


I would say the uproar is more about the poster then the content of the post, but that's just me.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:11 PM ET
Holy crap! I go to lunch and am like wow I missed 10 pages of comments! Something must have happened! Nope - not a dang thing.
Hopes dashed.

- FlyersGrace


Today has been surreal, like some bizarre test of the Internet at its most...weird.

If I've been reading it correctly, the failure to embrace Steve Ott means...something. But I have no damn clue what that would be, exactly
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:16 PM ET
Today has been surreal, like some bizarre test of the Internet at its most...weird.

If I've been reading it correctly, the failure to embrace Steve Ott means...something. But I have no damn clue what that would be, exactly

- AllInForFlyers

& more recently slim Jim's
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 2:18 PM ET
Today has been surreal, like some bizarre test of the Internet at its most...weird.

If I've been reading it correctly, the failure to embrace Steve Ott means...something. But I have no damn clue what that would be, exactly

- AllInForFlyers



Who knew Steve Ott was relevant enough as a hockey player to merit this level of incessant arguing?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 2:22 PM ET
Who knew Steve Ott was relevant enough as a hockey player to merit this level of incessant arguing?
- Tomahawk


It's my fault for asking SSB how much he values Ott.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:24 PM ET
Who knew Steve Ott was relevant enough as a hockey player to merit this level of incessant arguing?
- Tomahawk


Is it truly Steve Ott, or is Ott a metaphor for something else that I missed? Is the name "Steve Ott" some kind of passive-aggressive argument trigger, like if someone says "advanced stats" or "Corsi"?

Is that what has happened? When someone says "Steve Ott," they're really saying "we're fighting, so eff you?"
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
It's my fault for asking SSB how much he values Ott.
- PhillySportsGuy

Why I otta...
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
Ott in Philly would be even more of a penalty magnet than he was elsewhere. They really need to get away from this awful culture of leading the league in penalties almost every season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
I would say the uproar is more about the poster then the content of the post, but that's just me.
- MJL


I can't remember ever having a problem with him. SchennBros, yes, but not SuperSchennBros.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
It's my fault for asking SSB how much he values Ott.
- PhillySportsGuy


Banned
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
You... Buy.... Slim Jim's... Mail to me.... I eat ...
- Sms401



I almost thought that said John Sim.........

I didnt even realize he was on the 2012-13 Phantoms
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
You... Buy.... Slim Jim's... Mail to me.... I eat ...
- Sms401


But you will most likely lose...you said Slim Jims were too rich, so I reduced the bet.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
Is it truly Steve Ott, or is Ott a metaphor for something else that I missed? Is the name "Steve Ott" some kind of passive-aggressive argument trigger, like if someone says "advanced stats" or "Corsi"?

Is that what has happened? When someone says "Steve Ott," they're really saying "we're fighting, so eff you?"

- AllInForFlyers



Yeah, it's just another line in the sand that we can all tap dance around.

I'd even prefer arguing about Vinny, Grossmann or stats to Ott... at least those have some bearing on the team. Ott is a pipedream.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
Banned
- eayost


I say we ban PSG for 6 days, starting tomorrow. That'll teach him.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
Ott in Philly would be even more of a penalty magnet than he was elsewhere. They really need to get away from this awful culture of leading the league in penalties almost every season.
- Feanor


They spent games worth of total time killing penalties versus the more disciplined teams in the league. I thought it was quite staggering to actually look at how many more minutes they skate around with 1 less guy on the ice than some of the other teams over the course of a season.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
I say we ban PSG for 6 days, starting tomorrow. That'll teach him.
- jmatchett383


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:31 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy

You'll probably ban yourself with this whole wedding ordeal
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
I say we sign Ott, then trade him to a Cup winner so we can all complain about another former Flyer winning a Cup.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
New topic: Brad Richards as a Flyer... gotta get Vinny going.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
You'll probably ban yourself with this whole wedding ordeal
- Giroux_Is_God


Oh absolutely. His life is effectively over. He'll be reduced to scurrying about on a message board to banter about hockey every free moment he can. What a sad, sad little existence that will be.


Awwwwww poop.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
Not sure what the basis is for this. You aren't acquiring Ott for his playmaking or goal scoring prowess. He would be acquired for his checking and defensive ability, as well as his toughgness, and for intangibles such as leadership. I don't see why those dkills would decline rapidly.
- MJL


Don't tell me, let me guess: Ott's leadership, checking and defensive ability aren't indicative of the -38 he posted last season -- including a whopping -12 in 23 games in St. Louis, which was one of the best defensive teams in the league -- nor are they reflected in the fact that St. Louis lost in the first round, nor are they a sign of actual player decline, but they're actually the fault of both Buffalo players and St. Louis players not adhering to their gap control and not supporting Steve Ott properly in their systems?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
New topic: Brad Richards as a Flyer... gotta get Vinny going.
- Tomahawk


Trade for MSL, and bring back Rusty Feds.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
I say we sign Ott, then trade him to a Cup winner so we can all complain about another former Flyer winning a Cup.
- jmatchett383


Don't worry, Vinny will win the Cup next year wherever he does. Unless he ends up staying here of course
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Don't worry, Vinny will win the Cup next year wherever he does. Unless he ends up staying here of course
- eayost


If we trade him, guaranteed hat trick in a 3-2 win in the cup-clincher.
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