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Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:50 PM ET
At the risk of getting slammed for bringing him up again, I brought up the notion that ROR would not be worth $7 million a year in the long run. I was asked if I would pay Drury that much back in 2007. My answer was "back then, yes, and it would have been a mistake".
- buffalofan19



I would have said the same thing, and yes it would have been a mistake.

The problem in the NHL is emotional spending on free agents. IMO only maybe 8 skaters in the whole league are worth 7 mil a year yet(according to cap geek) 35 guys that or better. So many problems with giving guys that much money. For one giving one guy 7 mil + doesn't make the guys around him better. In fact, depending on the person the pressure might hurt that player. That or Villie Leino syndrome kicks in. Then there is the now lack of cap room to round out the team. Ultimately the results are disappointing in many cases and the bottom line directly affects the fans.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
Big time free agency does not work out well most of the time !
- Maximum Signal



THIS(the short version of what I said)
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 20 @ 1:56 PM ET
Agreed. Right there with ya on the Bias. That should change for both BUF and EDM once they become contenders.
- ImThatGuy


I think the NMC/NTC should have to be earned. Guys should have to have been with their current team for a certain amount of years prior to being eligible for them. They should not be something that teams can use as part of a package to entice a free agent.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jun 20 @ 2:11 PM ET
I think the NMC/NTC should have to be earned. Guys should have to have been with their current team for a certain amount of years prior to being eligible for them. They should not be something that teams can use as part of a package to entice a free agent.
- HonkFortheGoose



This is a great idea, except guys get traded all the time, so you may have a player that's been traded 4 times in 6 years and wont have an opportunity to accrue any time with any one team
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 2:12 PM ET
This is a great idea, except guys get traded all the time, so you may have a player that's been traded 4 times in 6 years and wont have an opportunity to accrue any time with any one team
- grand-magus

Derek Roy will be screwed
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
This is a great idea, except guys get traded all the time, so you may have a player that's been traded 4 times in 6 years and wont have an opportunity to accrue any time with any one team
- grand-magus


Well, obviously it doesn't have to be quite so cut and dry. Besides, a guy that's been traded that often, probably isn't going to get a NTC/NMC anyway.
markyjoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:36 PM ET
I think the NMC/NTC should have to be earned. Guys should have to have been with their current team for a certain amount of years prior to being eligible for them. They should not be something that teams can use as part of a package to entice a free agent.
- HonkFortheGoose


Similar to baseball having a 5&10 rule?

5 consecutive years with the same team and 10 years in the league, then a player can't be traded without their consent
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
Derek Roy will be screwed
- sbroads24


Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think the NMC/NTC should have to be earned. Guys should have to have been with their current team for a certain amount of years prior to being eligible for them. They should not be something that teams can use as part of a package to entice a free agent.
- HonkFortheGoose

GMs just need to wisen up and stop giving them out to every tom, Richard and sally
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 20 @ 2:43 PM ET
GMs just need to wisen up and stop giving them out to every Brad, Ville and Jordan
- Mentalorgasm5


Fixed.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Similar to baseball having a 5&10 rule?

5 consecutive years with the same team and 10 years in the league, then a player can't be traded without their consent

- markyjoe


Yes. I would love this!!!
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
Fixed.
- burner087

What we got to be up to about 20% of the league with at least a limited NTC?
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jun 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
Well, obviously it doesn't have to be quite so cut and dry. Besides, a guy that's been traded that often, probably isn't going to get a NTC/NMC anyway.
- HonkFortheGoose





Quite true!
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jun 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
Fixed.
- burner087






Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
What we got to be up to about 20% of the league with at least a limited NTC?
- Mentalorgasm5




NTC's should be limited to a max of 4 teams. If the NHL is so great and your making millions, what reason do you have to say you wont play for 8 of its 30 teams?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:02 PM ET
GMs just need to wisen up and stop giving them out to every tom, Richard and sally
- Mentalorgasm5


In theory, you are correct. However, changes had to be made to the structure of contracts to help prevent cap circumvention. If there's something a GM can pull out of his bag of tricks that doesn't have a rule saying he can't, we've seen they can and will use it.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
NTC's should be limited to a max of 4 teams. If the NHL is so great and your making millions, what reason do you have to say you wont play for 8 of its 30 teams?
- Buffalo-Sabres

They have that right because it's what the GM gave them. If the GM wanted only 4 they could offer 4.

At this point so many medicare players have some type of NMC/NTC you could make a guessing game out of players who do and dont.

I'm pretty sure Dennis Wideman has a NTC, I mean Dennis Wideman, come on GMs.
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
They have that right because it's what the GM gave them. If the GM wanted only 4 they could offer 4.

At this point so many medicare players have some type of NMC/NTC you could make a guessing game out of players who do and dont.

I'm pretty sure Dennis Wideman has a NTC, I mean Dennis Wideman, come on GMs.

- Mentalorgasm5


Yup.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...llion-195343147--nhl.html

(UPDATE: Pat Steinberg of the FAN 960 in Calgary reports that Wideman's contract also includes a full no-movement clause. Wideman is now the 10th player on the Flames roster who has either a no-trade or no-movement clause in their contract.)
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
New blog
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 3:30 PM ET
Getting tickets for the october show at UB. 47.00 Aussie Floyd


- cabin



His guitar work on Shine on isn't up to snuff IMO.


Not bad otherwise.
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