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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 12:56 AM ET
good luck to Florida great list ...

found this ...

2004 - Alex Ovechkin for Al Montoya and Chris Tanev
2005 - Sidney Crosby for Gilbert Brule and Chris Tanev
2006 - Erik Johnson for Derick Brassard and Chris Tanev
2007 - Patrick Kane for Sam Gagner and Chris Tanev
2008 - Steven Stamkos for Nikita Filatov and Chris Tanev
2009 - John Tavares for OEL and Chris Tanev
2010 - Taylor Hall for Brent Connolly and Chris Tanev
2011 - RHN for Mika Zibanejad and Chris Tanev

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Yeah, doesnt look great.
But there isnt a guy in this class rated as high of any of those guys. And 4 of them could be considered the 'generational talents' I mentioned. (hall is as good as tavares imo, but thats a debate for another day. Also, in Tavares' year; oel is fantastic. Gonna be a perernial norris candidate.
If u had 2c's in bjugstad and barkov and wanted to solidify your d, you could do ALOT worse than oel and tanev.

Basically, I asked the original question to ascertain two things;
1. Will draisaitl still be around for edm
2. If u take ekblad, it's gotta at least be possible Myers is available for the forwards/picks you need/want
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:59 AM ET
Yeah, doesnt look great.
But there isnt a guy in this class rated as high of any of those guys. And 4 of them could be considered the 'generational talents' I mentioned. (hall is as good as tavares imo, but thats a debate for another day. Also, in Tavares' year; oel is fantastic. Gonna be a perernial norris candidate.


Basically, I asked the original question to ascertain two things;
1. Will draisaitl still be around for edm
2. If u take ekblad, it's gotta at least be possible Myers is available for the forwards/picks you need/want

- hugefemale dog77


I have feeling that "IF" we take ekblad.

we then Trade myers to you guys for the 3rd .. and i cry in the corner for the night
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 20 @ 1:06 AM ET
Yeah, doesnt look great.
But there isnt a guy in this class rated as high of any of those guys. And 4 of them could be considered the 'generational talents' I mentioned. (hall is as good as tavares imo, but thats a debate for another day. Also, in Tavares' year; oel is fantastic. Gonna be a perernial norris candidate.
If u had 2c's in bjugstad and barkov and wanted to solidify your d, you could do ALOT worse than oel and tanev.

Basically, I asked the original question to ascertain two things;
1. Will draisaitl still be around for edm
2. If u take ekblad, it's gotta at least be possible Myers is available for the forwards/picks you need/want

- hugefemale dog77


Unless someone Vancouver blows Florida's doors off to get to 1 and take Reinhardt. Anyone else trading up I guess will do it to get Ekblad . If Ekblad goes at #1 . Both Edmonton and Buffalo gets the player they targeted.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:08 AM ET
I have feeling that "IF" we take ekblad.

we then Trade myers to you guys for the 3rd .. and i cry in the corner for the night

- GERBE!!!75PTS

Yeah, I cant see why theyd deal him if they didnt have ekblad.

One thing we can count on is edm struggling year after year, so maybe we could entice murray into a better shot at the mcdavid sweeps and get myers for our 2015 1st+ something
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 20 @ 1:08 AM ET
He's downplaying Myers because like he said, expectations were set way too high after his rookie year. Why say that, then turn around and say "we expect him to be great"

He's trying to limit the pressure on him and let him develope.

- sbroads24


I hope you are right . All these people coming in talking about trading Myer's make me wonder . How they don't see the potential we see.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:09 AM ET
Unless someone Vancouver blows Florida's doors off to get to 1 and take Reinhardt. Anyone else trading up I guess will do it to get Ekblad . If Ekblad goes at #1 . Both Edmonton and Buffalo gets the player they targeted.
- Maximum Signal

Reinhart, draisaitl you mean?

Hope so!
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:12 AM ET
I hope you are right . All these people coming in talking about trading Myer's make me wonder . How they don't see the potential we see.
- Maximum Signal

Most people are dumb.

And hockeybuzz is a whole other level
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:30 AM ET
Yeah, I cant see why theyd deal him if they didnt have ekblad.

One thing we can count on is edm struggling year after year, so maybe we could entice murray into a better shot at the mcdavid sweeps and get myers for our 2015 1st+ something

- hugefemale dog77


damn that's very interesting

3 picks for mcdavid sh!t
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:50 AM ET
damn that's very interesting

3 picks for mcdavid sh!t

- GERBE!!!75PTS

I dont think anyone could say it's a stretch that all of edm, buff and nyi finish bottom 10.

Pretty great odds.

Otsegolectric
Buffalo Sabres
Location: rochester, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:59 AM ET
Did anyone catch TM's response when asked who they'd take if Ekblad goes 1st? He said they take the next best player on their list.
ding ding ding. They takes Eks if he drops.

OR, a bigtime trade with all the teams wanting Ekblad. Would love to see that.

100goalseason
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Shanghai
Joined: 01.22.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:15 AM ET
Did anyone catch TM's response when asked who they'd take if Ekblad goes 1st? He said they take the next best player on their list.
ding ding ding. They takes Eks if he drops.

OR, a bigtime trade with all the teams wanting Ekblad. Would love to see that.

- Otsegolectric



This is assuming Ekblad is at the top of the Sabres' draft list. Maybe they have one of the forwards ranked above Ekblad.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:43 AM ET
This is assuming Ekblad is at the top of the Sabres' draft list. Maybe they have one of the forwards ranked above Ekblad.
- 100goalseason

Try reading the post and Murray's words again.

It coulda just been an inane reply to question he doesnt wanna answer, but it was very pointed nonetheless
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:32 AM ET
Yeah, doesnt look great.
But there isnt a guy in this class rated as high of any of those guys. And 4 of them could be considered the 'generational talents' I mentioned. (hall is as good as tavares imo, but thats a debate for another day. Also, in Tavares' year; oel is fantastic. Gonna be a perernial norris candidate.
If u had 2c's in bjugstad and barkov and wanted to solidify your d, you could do ALOT worse than oel and tanev.

Basically, I asked the original question to ascertain two things;
1. Will draisaitl still be around for edm
2. If u take ekblad, it's gotta at least be possible Myers is available for the forwards/picks you need/want

- hugefemale dog77


It could go many ways. If ekblaud goes 1 I think buffalo takes reinhart 2. But if Florida takes reinhart than buffalo takes draisaitl second. It's been along time since a team took a defender #1 overall. If it didn't happen with Seth jones in Colorado I doubt it happens in Florida. Just like Edmonton passing on Murray for yak. It's just too hard to pass up.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 20 @ 7:08 AM ET
Joe Sacco re-assigned to Pro Scout, and:

Randy Cunneyworth, who was working as a development liaison between the Sabres and Amerks, has been "offered a job" and Murray is waiting for his answer.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 20 @ 7:14 AM ET
Reinhart, draisaitl you mean?

Hope so!

- hugefemale dog77


That is what I think
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 20 @ 7:31 AM ET
I have no use for Kaleta and never have, we can do better.
- SABRES 89

jussi jokinen
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 20 @ 7:35 AM ET

2. If u take ekblad, it's gotta at least be possible Myers is available for the forwards/picks you need/want

- hugefemale dog77

myers and foligno for eberle


sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 20 @ 8:34 AM ET
That is what I think
- Maximum Signal


He's been very quiet about Reinhart and Bennett lately. Makes me wonder.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 20 @ 8:38 AM ET
He's downplaying Myers because like he said, expectations were set way too high after his rookie year. Why say that, then turn around and say "we expect him to be great"

He's trying to limit the pressure on him and let him develope.

- sbroads24



It sounds to me like, had he been the GM in 2009, Myers wouldn't have been his pick. Still, he knows he has value. I think when all is said and done, Murray doesn't envision a team where Myers is his #1 defenseman. Whether that's addressed this year should Ekblad come available, or in future years remains to be seen.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 8:54 AM ET
It sounds to me like, had he been the GM in 2009, Myers wouldn't have been it. Still, he knows he has value. I think when all is said and done, Murray doesn't envision a team where Myers is his #1 defenseman. Whether that's addressed this year should Ekblad come available, or in future years remains to be seen.
- buffalofan19


Myers will be traded (not a Murray guy)

My thoughts a week from today:
- Fla takes? Reinhart
- Buffalo - Ekblad
- Buffalo trades with Edmonton for 3rd pick - Myers/2nd - Buffalo selects either Dras/Bennett



Buffalo trades back into the 1st Rd dealing Ehrhoff/2nd for a player like Alex Tuch?


Defense of the Future - Ekblad, Risto, McCabe, Psysk and Zadorov
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:00 AM ET
Myers will be traded (not a Murray guy)

My thoughts a week from today:
- Fla takes? Reinhart
- Buffalo - Ekblad
- Buffalo trades with Edmonton for 3rd pick - Myers/2nd - Buffalo selects either Dras/Bennett



Buffalo trades back into the 1st Rd dealing Ehrhoff/2nd for a player like Alex Tuch!


Defense of the Future - Ekblad, Risto, McCabe, Psysk and Zadorov

- Irish 14


I would think it would be one or the other, but not both.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 20 @ 9:00 AM ET
He's been very quiet about Reinhart and Bennett lately. Makes me wonder.
- sippyd

Just don't see Bennett as a center at the next level . Our first need is centers . . So Bennett will skate through a wall . Would rather have the playmaker in Reinhart that makes others around him better.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 9:01 AM ET
Myers will be traded (not a Murray guy)

- Irish 14


Care to elaborate on that?
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:01 AM ET
I would think it would be one or the other, but not both.
- buffalofan19


Yep, just some thoughts? Should be exciting!
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:09 AM ET
Just don't see Bennett as a center at the next level . Our first need is centers . . So Bennett will skate through a wall . Would rather have the playmaker in Reinhart that makes others around him better.
- Maximum Signal


I'd rather have Reinhart. Just mentioning how he's suddenly quiet about both of them.
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