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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
Sorry most of my cartoon amusement is based around dark anime.
I was trying to make you laugh...

- FlyersGrace


Try again
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
I like Rundblad, but I get feeling Berube would not
- Jsaquella


Probably wouldn't want Honka or hell even Ghost
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
I would have liked to get Del Zotto but know way rangers are trading to Philly. Maybe a deal with NSH could be made. Vinny to NSH for del zotto
- J35Bacher


We'd have to eat most his salary and perhaps draft pick to land MDZ.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
I'd be fine starting the season with the following roster, and it would have the added bonus of hurting the Rangers too!

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Benoit Pouliot ($2.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Brian Boyle ($2.000m) / Jason Akeson ($0.750m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Oliver Lauridsen ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.200m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
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(estimations for 2014-15)
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CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $4,180,000

- BiggE


I like Pouliot and Boyle, but I still think the defence must be adjusted
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
I like Pouliot and Boyle, but I still think the defence must be adjusted
- 3flyerkids


Yeah I would like to add Boyle he plays good defense and can play well on the PK. Him with Couts could be great. I wonder if the other Boyle could be a could fit for a year rental.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
Yeah I would like to add Boyle he plays good defense and can play well on the PK. Him with Couts could be great. I wonder if the other Boyle could be a could fit for a year rental.
- arichardson22


Dan Boyle? He will be 38 next month and wants a 2 year deal@ 5M

IMO We need younger and faster on the blueline!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
Yeah I would like to add Boyle he plays good defense and can play well on the PK. Him with Couts could be great. I wonder if the other Boyle could be a could fit for a year rental.
- arichardson22



I said boyle too but i think he might get priced out due to his playoffs.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
From Josh Rimer's blog here on HB:

"Also look for former Lightning & Coyotes Coach Rick Tocchet to be named an assistant coach with the Penguins."

REALLY!?!

- FlyersGrace


Not surprised.

Rick Tocchet's man crush on Mario Lemieux is limitless and unceasing.

/nttawwt
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:20 PM ET
I said boyle too but i think he might get priced out due to his playoffs.
- J35Bacher


We'll EK is saying the Flyers " love Steve Ott"
So take that for what it is worth. Boyle would be cheaper.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
From Josh Rimer's blog here on HB:

"Also look for former Lightning & Coyotes Coach Rick Tocchet to be named an assistant coach with the Penguins."

REALLY!?!

- FlyersGrace


he's been stumping for that job for a while.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
Probably wouldn't want Honka or hell even Ghost
- ob18


Berube just wants the team to play faster. Ghost and Honka are guys who can really move the puck and skate.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
Ek is saying Flyers are in on Ott? Take it for what is worth. Not sure I see the fit as isn't he center?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
he's been stumping for that job for a while.
- twotoekenn


Reading his twitter feed while the Pens are playing is nauseating.

To be honest, I won't miss Tocchet on the TV side. Enjoy Western PA.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:23 PM ET
Ek is saying Flyers are in on Ott? Take it for what is worth. Not sure I see the fit as isn't he center?
- J35Bacher

He has been beating that drum for some time now..
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
SBNation mock draft... Flyers select:

http://www.broadstreethoc...lyers-nhl-mock-draft-2014
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
Reading his twitter feed while the Pens are playing is nauseating.

To be honest, I won't miss Tocchet on the TV side. Enjoy Western PA.

- johndewar


hopefully he gets the head coaching job so we can dominate the pens again.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Not 100% sure I would group Prongs and Savard into the same group there. Savard took a cheap shot while Pronger just took a freak puck to the face but wasn't the result of a dirty play.....

They still need to do something about the charade however. No reason he shouldn't be able to retire without punishing the team.

- vipeviper



Snider missed the boat on this with the new CBA it is a travesty what players and teams have to go through just because they are over 35.

Age Discrimination of sorts even though its a rule

You can retire without issue if you signed the contract before age 35 but age 35 is too old to retire without cap issues ?????
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Reading his twitter feed while the Pens are playing is nauseating.

To be honest, I won't miss Tocchet on the TV side. Enjoy Western PA.

- johndewar


Eh I like him in the studio. I think he tells it how it is which is good counter to what Clement has turned into these days
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
On Steve Ott...
The Flyers love Ott and I believe are going to make him a prime target.


I hate Steve Ott. Where does he play if the Flyers still have Brayden Schenn, Vinny Lecavalier, and Sean Couturier?

On the other hand, he'd definitely provide a boost to the bottom 6, provided he doesn't cost a lot. He's a pretty fair faceoff guy as I recall. I don't know what his fancy stats look like. He also renders Zac Rinaldo obsolete.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
Eh I like him in the studio. I think he tells it how it is which is good counter to what Clement has turned into these days
- eayost


I prefer when Al Morganti is in the studio. Tock is OK, but I can't get past the fact that he's such a honk for Mario and the Pens.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:31 PM ET
I prefer when Al Morganti is in the studio. Tock is OK, but I can't get past the fact that he's such a honk for Mario and the Pens.
- johndewar


I like morganti and jones when they're away from cataldi.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:31 PM ET
Snider missed the boat on this with the new CBA it is a travesty what players and teams have to go through just because they are over 35.

Age Discrimination of sorts even though its a rule

You can retire without issue if you signed the contract before age 35 but age 35 is too old to retire without cap issues ?????

- Steelmanpa



I guss my thing is Kovalchuk walks away from his deal for KHL. NJ places him on restricted list and doesn't have to worry about LITR or cap hit.

Prongs an Savard suffered from a play that wasn't thier fault.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:32 PM ET
I hate Steve Ott. Where does he play if the Flyers still have Brayden Schenn, Vinny Lecavalier, and Sean Couturier?

On the other hand, he'd definitely provide a boost to the bottom 6, provided he doesn't cost a lot. He's a pretty fair faceoff guy as I recall. I don't know what his fancy stats look like. He also renders Zac Rinaldo obsolete.

- johndewar


I'm not really a fan of him. I'm not really a fan of paying over $2M for 4th line talent
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
Nice to hear that one of Murphy's strengths is working with young defensemen. If it helps us get the most out of guys like Luke Schenn and our defensive prospects that's a big benefit that this team really needs.
- Coburns_Nose


Yeah, this. I do think we can get some more consistancy out of Luke Schenn. I'm glad Hexy is hiring guys who are still along that teaching route. I only hope Luke and the other Guys are open to it. I often think the problem with bringing on prospects too soon like Schenn is that they close themselves off from being taught more.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
I guess when I think about it Ott could be the guy on 3rd line wing with Couturier and Read. Since they are on for tough draws it gives you two guys to take draws. He also can provide that grit and still have offense. Kind of what they wanted from Downie.
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