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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 19 @ 9:21 PM ET
It will be a tough pill to swallow to leave this draft without Parker, Wiggins or Embiid.

If they really love Wiggins and think he's a future star, they need to go up and get him.

- PhillySportsGuy

i hear you

but imagine that backcourt and how it could affect the game on both ends of the court.

edit: mcw and exum
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 9:23 PM ET
It will be a tough pill to swallow to leave this draft without Parker, Wiggins or Embiid.

If they really love Wiggins and think he's a future star, they need to go up and get him.

- PhillySportsGuy


You mean Ekblad right?
Seriously, I agree with the premise about Wiggins, I just don't see the Cavs moving down to risk not getting the player they really want even if they are scared off from Embiid. Bennett is a bust and they have to convince Irving to sign an extension. Actually, I think Parker makes a lot of sense for them because his floor is high. The Bucks are the great unknown.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:24 PM ET
It will be a tough pill to swallow to leave this draft without Parker, Wiggins or Embiid.

If they really love Wiggins and think he's a future star, they need to go up and get him.

- PhillySportsGuy


There's just too much we don't know like what can the 76ers get for taking on bad contracts. If the 76ers could come away with Exum, Embiid and keep the 10 I think I would be OK with not getting Wiggens.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:26 PM ET
There's just too much we don't know like what can the 76ers get for taking on bad contracts. If the 76ers could come away with Exum, Embiid and keep the 10 I think I would be OK with not getting Wiggens.
- jstross


Exum has bust written all over him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:27 PM ET
i hear you

but imagine that backcourt and how it could affect the game on both ends of the court.

edit: mcw and exum

- Crimsoninja


I know. I won't be mad with that duo. Exum has more of an upside when it comes to shooting. I dont think MCW will ever be much of a shooter.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:28 PM ET
Exum has bust written all over him.
- FlyersFirst

interesting

sure there alot of question marks, but i dont see bust at all.


call me crazy, but his body type reminds me of Kobe. watch clips of him driving to the rim.. moves very similar, imo
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:28 PM ET
i hear you

but imagine that backcourt and how it could affect the game on both ends of the court.

edit: mcw and exum

- Crimsoninja


I think MCW and Exum is redundant. The value in a package including MCW could outway keeping him if you have Exum.

Frank, Brignac looks in serious pain.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:28 PM ET
I know. I won't be mad with that duo. Exum has more of an upside when it comes to shooting. I dont think MCW will ever be much of a shooter.
- PhillySportsGuy

agreed
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
god that last episode pissed me off
- Crimsoninja

I was fine with it. They dragged it out too long but basically to me, long or short, they died.

There are many people who believe a lot of questions were never answered. This is not true. The show spent so much attention to detail that all the questions were answered but some of the answers are overlooked. I'm reading through a tone of questions right now, all of which make sense. Some answers are blowing my mind because I did overlook the answers. The end sucked. So did the end of Seinfeld but it doesn't mean the ride leading up wasn't fun to live through.

In November of 2011, a girl turned me on to the show. I was unemployed and new to states. So I watched each episode from beginning to end the entire month. It was fun.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:29 PM ET
Exum has bust written all over him.
- FlyersFirst


I have some concerns. I need a day to marinate because I was sold on the top 3.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
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Jun 19 @ 9:31 PM ET
I was fine with it. They dragged it out too long but basically to me, long or short, they died.

There are many people who believe a lot of questions were never answered. This is not true. The show spent so much attention to detail that all the questions were answered but some of the answers are overlooked. I'm reading through a tone of questions right now, all of which make sense. Some answers are blowing my mind because I did overlook the answers. The end sucked. So did the end of Seinfeld but it doesn't mean the ride leading up wasn't fun to live through.

In November of 2011, a girl turned me on to the show. I was unemployed and new to states. So I watched each episode from beginning to end the entire month. It was fun.

- SuperSchennBros

yeah i agree, it was a fun ride, cant deny that.
the finale was just so forgettable imo. to this day someone could ask me how Lost ended and I'd say i dont really remember

seinfeld is probably my favorite show, yet i despise the last 2 seasons, including the finale.
SuperSchennBros
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Jun 19 @ 9:32 PM ET
pass. he may hve been born to be a flyer but thats only because like hartsy, rinaldo, carcillo he is too easily riled up and takes penalties at the worst possible times.
- moylander

Actually, I feel Hartnell has matured a great deal over the past 2 or 3 seasons. I also don't think Rinaldo has ever gotten riled up. He takes bad penalties but I don't think I've ever seen him lose his cool like Carcillo is known to do.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:32 PM ET
You mean Ekblad right?
Seriously, I agree with the premise about Wiggins, I just don't see the Cavs moving down to risk not getting the player they really want even if they are scared off from Embiid. Bennett is a bust and they have to convince Irving to sign an extension. Actually, I think Parker makes a lot of sense for them because his floor is high. The Bucks are the great unknown.

- ravishingone


Both the Bucks and the Cavs have good, young PGs. I don't see any reason they wouldn't take Parker and Wiggins at this point. FA starts after the draft, so the Cavs won;t know if Lebron will sign with them until after they've drafted.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:32 PM ET
interesting

sure there alot of question marks, but i dont see bust at all.


call me crazy, but his body type reminds me of Kobe. watch clips of him driving to the rim.. moves very similar, imo

- Crimsoninja


Reminds me of MCW
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:33 PM ET
Reminds me of MCW
- PhillySportsGuy

really? way more athletic imo
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:34 PM ET
I think MCW and Exum is redundant. The value in a package including MCW could outway keeping him if you have Exum.

Frank, Brignac looks in serious pain.

- jstross


I thought he broke his leg. He walked off though.

I've been watching so much soccer. I was waiting for the ambulance to get on the field.
SuperSchennBros
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Jun 19 @ 9:35 PM ET
yeah i agree, it was a fun ride, cant deny that.
the finale was just so forgettable imo. to this day someone could ask me how Lost ended and I'd say i dont really remember

seinfeld is probably my favorite show, yet i despise the last 2 seasons, including the finale.

- Crimsoninja

I really like the Show Rescue me for the one line zingers and the "Boys locker room" talk but as the show was reaching it's end, the last couple seasons dragged.

Parks and Rec is losing it's luster on me. Ron Swanson is great! Like a really great character but the show revolves around Lesie and now her marriage to Ben...they are both the world's most boring characters ever! It's the cast around them that makes the show.

Community is amazing though.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:39 PM ET
Actually, I feel Hartnell has matured a great deal over the past 2 or 3 seasons. I also don't think Rinaldo has ever gotten riled up. He takes bad penalties but I don't think I've ever seen him lose his cool like Carcillo is known to do.
- SuperSchennBros



valid point on rinaldo. hartsy still does stupid stuff. bottom line is I've seen ott play to often and almost every time he loses his cool. for the amount of money he will demand i pass.... give me adam hall for $600,000, alex.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
really? way more athletic imo
- Crimsoninja


Draft Express

Dante Exum: Exum measured a legitimate 6-6 in shoes with an impressive 6-9 ¼ wingspan. Exum has great size for a shooting guard, let alone a point guard. The Australian combo guard also filled out his frame a bit, weighing in at 196 pounds, up eight pounds from the 2013 Nike Hoop Summit. Exum's closest physical comparison is Michael Carter-Williams, who measured 6-5 3/4 , 184 pounds with a 6-7 ¼ wingspan.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz358iQyKrT
http://www.draftexpress.com
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
I thought he broke his leg. He walked off though.

I've been watching so much soccer. I was waiting for the ambulance to get on the field.

- PhillySportsGuy



Probably a stretched tendon, he'll be sore, but Asche is back.

USA Ghana was just an incredible game to watch!
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
Both the Bucks and the Cavs have good, young PGs. I don't see any reason they wouldn't take Parker and Wiggins at this point. FA starts after the draft, so the Cavs won;t know if Lebron will sign with them until after they've drafted.
- PhillySportsGuy


I think Knight is okay for the Bucks, not a real big PG and a 42% shooter from the floor. Mayo is at #2 guard, don't need to say more. I don't think their depth chart precludes them from drafting Exum.

I don't see Lebron heading back to Cleveland. Would he really want to help get Gilbert a championship after the way he berated him for leaving the first time. No offense, it's Cleveland, he couldn't attract big time FAs there the first time around, why would that change now? Outside of Irving, there isn't a lot of elite talent on that roster.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 19 @ 9:42 PM ET
Probably a stretched tendon, he'll be sore, but Asche is back.

USA Ghana was just an incredible game to watch!

- jstross


I like Asche. I would want more power from third base, but I think he's a solid player and will get better.

World Cup has been fun to watch. I took off work all week to prepare for my wedding and everything is done. Ive just been watching soccer all day.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
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Jun 19 @ 9:44 PM ET
Draft Express

Dante Exum: Exum measured a legitimate 6-6 in shoes with an impressive 6-9 ¼ wingspan. Exum has great size for a shooting guard, let alone a point guard. The Australian combo guard also filled out his frame a bit, weighing in at 196 pounds, up eight pounds from the 2013 Nike Hoop Summit. Exum's closest physical comparison is Michael Carter-Williams, who measured 6-5 3/4 , 184 pounds with a 6-7 ¼ wingspan.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz358iQyKrT
http://www.draftexpress.com

- PhillySportsGuy

but do you think they move the same?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:45 PM ET
I think Knight is okay for the Bucks, not a real big PG and a 42% shooter from the floor. Mayo is at #2 guard, don't need to say more. I don't think their depth chart precludes them from drafting Exum.

I don't see Lebron heading back to Cleveland. Would he really want to help get Gilbert a championship after the way he berated him for leaving the first time. No offense, it's Cleveland, he couldn't attract big time FAs there the first time around, why would that change now? Outside of Irving, there isn't a lot of elite talent on that roster.

- ravishingone


I know the Bucks really like Antetokounmpa (if I spelled that right, I should win something), but I'm not sure he's a PG.

I guess they would consider Exum. I would be surprised if they took him though. Maybe Wiggins will throw a temper tantrum and make it clear he doesn't want to be in Milwaukee.
SuperSchennBros
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Jun 19 @ 9:45 PM ET
valid point on rinaldo. hartsy still does stupid stuff. bottom line is I've seen ott play to often and almost every time he loses his cool. for the amount of money he will demand i pass.... give me adam hall for $600,000, alex.
- moylander


Fair enough. It's hard to cost the Sabers a win consider they can't win regardless of who's playing for them. While Ott isn't exactly known as a scorer (but who is on the Sabers and Blues), I haven't see him cost the Blues any wins. In fact, I read that they still want to keep him but talks have gone quiet recently.
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