No the one that hit ....and hit hard....the one that fought to defend his team mates.......the one that scored 20 as a rookie and followed up with back to back 17 goal seasons.....the one that was far more engaged before he got his $...that one....not the one that plays when he wants too.
- landros 2

Are you even speaking words?

Are you even speaking words?
- jake24242

No, he is speaking Canadian!!!

Top 25?

Karlsson, Doughty, Keith, Seabrook, Weber, Chara, Letang, Byfuglien, Hedman, Suter, Markov, Subban, Pietrangelo, OEL, Shattenkirk, McDonagh, Goligoski, Fowler, Hamhuis, Edler, Giordano, Kronwall

Those are given. I don't think Dion (right now) is top 25 in the NHL. I'd take those Dmen before Dion.... in a heartbeat in almost all cases
- AlfieisKing

No to them

I'm not saying he is 1C as of now but give him 2-3 years he very well could be. Still has time to develop. I mean he's 2nd line center for Philly and we have depth at that position. I'm not saying he's the best or great 2C but he's a sold 2C for now
- arichardson22

I dont know what his d is like but he was only top 60 C in scoring due to injuries to stamkos hanzal and grabovski that forced them to miss a lot of games.

No, he is speaking Canadian!!!
- Sabresfan88

Canadian and a Philly fan?

I knew the edumication system was letting you guys down but wow.

I dont know what his d is like but he was only top 60 C in scoring due to injuries to stamkos hanzal and grabovski that forced them to miss a lot of games.
- jbs32

Well Schenn has been durable since he entered the league. Dressed all 82 last year
And 47/48 year before. All those guys and most centers get PP time Schenn gets barely any. But that will change this year IF he stays with Philly

Well Schenn has been durable since he entered the league. Dressed all 82 last year
And 47/48 year before. All those guys and most centers get PP time Schenn gets barely any. But that will change this year IF he stays with Philly
- arichardson22

The powerplay point is fair a lot of the guys ahead of him get at least somewhat regular powerplay time. But durability doesnt make him more qualified for a number 2 center especially when guys stull miss a few games and outscore him. Not that I think hes bad I just think at the moment hes a borderline 2 very solid 3 (around same as tyler johnson who I really like) with potential to be a solid-good second line center in a couple years (top 45 ish in the league as a floor)

Come On he is not top 25 d-man. Offensively he has never been a top 50 in points for D-men and on the defensive he hasnt been as good. He is number 2 d-men. prolly top 50 D-men in the league
- hanleyaj

2013-2014 47th
2012-2013 10th
2011-2012 12th
2010-2011 44th
2009-2010 42nd
2008-2009 15th
2007-2008 5th

You're wrong bud.

Miller -> St Louis! LOL *GOLD*

TB: Bishop + 1st in 2014 (19) <-> WPG: Kane + 1st in 2014 (9)

TB then signs Miller, 3-4 yrs at $4.5-5/per
- mventres

If Chevy believes Bishop is the real deal, then the offer works well for them. They move out Kane, who isn't doing the team any good due to his numerous antics and mediocre performance. This year's draft isn't anything special, so likely little drop off between the 9 and 19th picks. Plus Bishop is 2.3 cap hit this year, which saves money. Otherwise, they have no goalie in the system or any real trade prospects to bring in somebody comparable to Bishop...it's an even deal imo.
- mventres

Doesn't account for the fact that Kane is not what the Bolts are looking for. Yes we are looking for a veteran forward to help lead the way for all of the youth at forward (assuming Calahan walks), but even you say that Kane is full of antics. So why would Yzerman trade Bishop for a headcase when the player we are looking to acquire is supposed to be a leader?

I wouldn't be so sure. Bishop wasn't anything spectacular before this year, and near the end of the season he started coming back to earth in his play...I doubt he does so well next year.

ANA: Andersen + Gibson are there, no room for Miller. He'd be pushed out of the starter position too soon by Gibson. Plus, ANA has more pressing issues than to bring in Miller.

SJ: Similar case as ANA. They don't need Miller as he's not an improvement on Niemi, who is only 3.8/yr cap hit...he is on his final season, but with Stalock waiting in the wings, I just don't see a fit for Miller here either.
- mventres

How many NHL games did Bishop have before this season? Less than 30 if my memory serves correct. You could argue that he doesn't have the experience to be called "elite", but to say he wasn't "anything special" with almost no NHL experience to speak of is

Canadian and a Philly fan?

I knew the edumication system was letting you guys down but wow.
- jake24242

Just because I'm Canadian doesn't mean I have to cheer for the Maple Laughs.....I enjoy playoff hockey too much.

2013-2014 47th
2012-2013 10th
2011-2012 12th
2010-2011 44th
2009-2010 42nd
2008-2009 15th
2007-2008 5th

You're wrong bud.
- TonkaPhaneuf

Don't let facts cloud the arguement.

Just because I'm Canadian doesn't mean I have to cheer for the Maple Laughs.....I enjoy playoff hockey too much.

- landros 2

There is more then one Canadian team if u seemly didn't know.

Did the flyers win the cup this year? I guess they didn't do any better then the leafs did huh

Don't let facts cloud the arguement.
- landros 2

He stated he was never a top 50 point producer for dmen. Thats clearly wrong. No clouds, its clear as day.

Well Schenn has been durable since he entered the league. Dressed all 82 last year
And 47/48 year before. All those guys and most centers get PP time Schenn gets barely any. But that will change this year IF he stays with Philly
- arichardson22

The Schenn love is a little overboard.
1. He will never oust Giroux from the top line, therefore, he is not a 1C on your team, and most likely, not a 1C on any team.
Teams he might be a 1C by default on are: Buffalo, Nashville, maybe Phoenix.
2. He is not a franchise player
3. he managed 41 pts in 82 games this season, so .5 PPG pace. His 41 pts put him at 58th among scoring for C's in the NHL this season.
4. You say he had no PP time, but 9 of his 41 pts, so almost 1/4 was on the PP.
5. His Faceoff percentage was terrible at 43%. Most teams won't let a 4th line C have a faceoff win% that low.

The Schenn love is a little overboard.
1. He will never oust Giroux from the top line, therefore, he is not a 1C on your team, and most likely, not a 1C on any team.
Teams he might be a 1C by default on are: Buffalo, Nashville, maybe Phoenix.
2. He is not a franchise player
3. he managed 41 pts in 82 games this season, so .5 PPG pace. His 41 pts put him at 58th among scoring for C's in the NHL this season.
4. You say he had no PP time, but 9 of his 41 pts, so almost 1/4 was on the PP.
5. His Faceoff percentage was terrible at 43%. Most teams won't let a 4th line C have a faceoff win% that low.
- ILoveLamp

Miller comes to pittsburgh Kesler will come

Miller comes to pittsburgh Kesler will come
- Palmer117

You guys need a good goalie.

If there is any chance Tuch will be around 20 I would be willing to drop down. For any team. He's a beast

Sabres fans will know what that is like shortly.
- BoBBeR56

We will see....based on the current prospect pool, at least 4 picks in the top 50 draft this year and 3 first rounders next year I'd say that the team is on the right path for a fairly quick rebuild.

I don't think Dion is worth what Toronto wants in return. Take Schenn straight up or pass.

I don't think Dion is worth what Toronto wants in return. Take Schenn straight up or pass.
- Pelle31Forever

I think you'd have to include a 4th with Luke.

Well I know two of the rumours are wrong:
1) no one wants to go back to buffalo
2) if trotz wants a strong d, phaneuf will not help that
- Fakepartofme

I really think Moulson would be welcomed back...still young AND actually both he and Ott stated publicly they enjoyed time here and would be open to retyurn