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nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
You might want to check your blogger then...

Kane has won a lot of accolades in Chicago. But my source tells me he really wants a Hart Trophy and a Richard Trophy. To get those, he needs to have a truly stellar season or two. And to do that, he probably needs a center not named Handzus or Regin to get him the puck. Probably not named Shaw either. Otherwise, the lure of Buffalo for Kane is quite real.

Kane wants a legit Center to play with...

- ImThatGuy



great..........where do we pick one of those up?
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
are you nuts? Schenn and a first for his HUGE contract...
- sheehan32


I think people overvalue Schenn way too much. Schenn is at max a 2nd line C, but looking like a decent 3rd C at the moment.

We all know that Dion came into the NHL as an offensive dman. He made his biggest impacts with a booming slapshot and a big body check. Despite this, Carlyle has forced him to play more as a defensive specialist, than an offensive one. Proof? In his advanced stats, only 22.7% of his zone starts were in the offensive zone. Not ideal for someone that's supposed to lead your powerplay. This was also by far the lowest on the team.
On the plus side, he's become a workhorse who looks like he made the transition to playing well defensively. The downside is that he burned out because of the lack of support he has on the blueline. He's highest paired partner was Gunnarsson who is realistically, a bottom pairing D on most competitive teams. Phaneuf isn't Toronto's problem, the lack of having more quality D like Phaneuf is Toronto's problem.

mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
To be fair to bishop when he was "coming back down to earth" he was playing with torn ligaments in his wrist that required surgery. Of course his performance would drop playing with that kind of injury in his glove hand.
- jbs32


Indeed, but the point is that he has no track record of being so good, hence it is unlikely (not impossible) that he is the same goalie for next year...even if he is, TB with Kane+Miller is (imo) a better team than with Bishop. Similarly, WPG is a better team with Bishop than with Kane...
SmielmaN
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Belle River, ON
Joined: 05.11.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
Schenn a power forward? No way he will be good and score 25 goals like you said but he is not a power forward. He does not have the size to be a PF.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


On my Habs he's a power forward! Hahahaha!
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
if you guys didn't pay Clarkson, then there isn't a chance in hell you'll pay Callahan
- steponmytoe


We didn't pay Clarkson because everyone in the Devils organization knew he was a glorified 3rd liner who scored some lucky goals and his upside was limited.
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
just about any d man qualifies for a num 1 in philly
there are at least 15 other dmen I would much rather have then dion.

- 28Girouxsalem28


I bet 15 of 15 aren't available this summer.
SmielmaN
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Belle River, ON
Joined: 05.11.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
meanwhile the Leafs will continue with their consistent playoff appearance of once every decade
- nikel

jbs32
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 07.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
Indeed, but the point is that he has no track record of being so good, hence it is unlikely (not impossible) that he is the same goalie for next year...even if he is, TB with Kane+Miller is (imo) a better team than with Bishop. Similarly, WPG is a better team with Bishop than with Kane...
- mventres


Oh I agree I kinda like the idea of trading bishop and signing miller for reasons ive stated earlier I just think he has a good chance to be a solid starting goalie because he only slowed down because of an injury. I think both teams could win from a deal like that although tampa needs d more than a winger
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Was reported before this blog came out, so yes that is correct
- DDM-Coga


Didn't see it in the blog so it was a rumour he could be traded not asking for the trade.

In before dion for Campbell and 1st
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
Brain Campbell has now asked to be traded.
- jake24242

Is that his new nickname?
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:42 PM ET
I think a Vezina candidate who is young is a significant return, especially when they have absolutely no goal tending depth. If Chevy likes Bishop, how could he better improve his position? What more could he get than Bishop?
- mventres


Kane is a young, productive power forward with size.
Those kind of players are extremely rare.
Chevy wouldn't even listen to an offer like that, not to even mention
the # 9 pick thing.

Bishop is just another goalie who only had 1 good season.

It's ludicrous.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Is that his new nickname?
- jochfr

Auto correct op
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
Kane is a young, productive power forward with size.
Those kind of players are extremely rare.
Chevy wouldn't even listen to an offer like that, not to even mention
the # 9 pick thing.

Bishop is just another goalie who only had 1 good season.

It's ludicrous.

- StargateSG1


Bishop has had more then one gd year smaller size years but good. Goalie is more important then a winger.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
Oh I agree I kinda like the idea of trading bishop and signing miller for reasons ive stated earlier I just think he has a good chance to be a solid starting goalie because he only slowed down because of an injury. I think both teams could win from a deal like that although tampa needs d more than a winger
- jbs32


I agree on the need for a D...the deal does improve both rosters. Another top winger though sets them up nicely for the next few years...

Kane - Stamkos - Drouin
Palat - Fillipula - Johnson/Purcell

jbs32
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 07.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
I agree on the need for a D...the deal does improve both rosters. Another top winger though sets them up nicely for the next few years...

Kane - Stamkos - Drouin
Palat - Fillipula - Johnson/Purcell

- mventres


I think killorn would end up on the second line wing with johnson as third center and purcell gone. Unless they bring in a 3C. Then johnson can play second line wing and killorn on third. But if were talking beyond this year Kucherov will probably be in top six as well.
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yup. That's where the deal starts.
- wolfhounds


Liking that location bud
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
No way philly would trade B.Schenn +++ for dion. No way would I do it straight up fro schenn. add in the fact that there is a real possibility florida moves their pick. my focus would be on Florida not a 29 year old turnover machine in dion. he is a 3 at best on just about every team imo. some of the most brutal turnovers in recent memory come from phenuef. Florida is reportedly asking for a top six forward. B.schenn is exactly that already with huge room to grow. B schenn and phillys first for Florida's first. we will even throw in vinny. don't say vinny doesn't have value either. the length of his contract is bad but dollars aren't. he scored 20 goals while playing fourth line mins and moving all over the roster playing out of position.

Philly gets eckblad and have a roster spot for both laughton and akeson to start the year. they then send Coburn to edm for eberle. (that's me reaching for the stars) to open a spot for ghost or hagg.
florida gets a future 1st line center in schenn (currently a num 2c) and 3rd line center in vinny. plus num 17 pick.

- 28Girouxsalem28


Call Hextall now because I would do this in a heartbeat. Well said
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
If Buffalo drafts Reinhart this year and one of McDavid/Eichel next. I'd say thats a good 1-2 punch.

All depends on the next 2 years. No one knows what is going to happen.

- ImThatGuy

Sorry Guys, It will not happen, the Hawks will get a better center for Kaner to play with if it's not Toews. Chicago is one of the best places to live and play in the NHL and of course the Hawks will be in the mix for the Cup for the next number of years. I would say the chances are slim to none he moves on.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
I think killorn would end up on the second line wing with johnson as third center and purcell gone. Unless they bring in a 3C. Then johnson can play second line wing and killorn on third. But if were talking beyond this year Kucherov will probably be in top six as well.
- jbs32


However the lines end up...it's a good move for both WPG and TB, imo.
28Girouxsalem28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 08.09.2013

Jun 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
I bet 15 of 15 aren't available this summer.
- JVR_42_PK81

pretty sure yandle, shattenkirk, erhoff, Johnson could be had with the starter being B schenn.
philly shouldn't settle for an overrated overpaid dman. if they are giving up significant pieces they will go for a much much better one.
Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
Only way Phaneuf is going anywhere with his horrendous contract is if the Leafs take back both Green and Laich in return. Otherwise there is no way in hell Phaneuf is picked up Caps or any other team for that matter.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
Only way Phaneuf is going anywhere with his horrendous contract is if the Leafs take back both Green and Laich in return. Otherwise there is no way in hell Phaneuf is picked up Caps or any other team for that matter.
- Jammerz04


What about for Marleau, straight up? Salary is about the same, but Marleau is much older (29yrs to 34yrs old)...
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
Probobly B.Schenn would be the center piece. Then add in your first round pick. Then some other small pieces added going both ways.

I do like Schenn but what is his realistic ceiling? A 2nd line center?

- JVR_42_PK81



sure !!!!! .....did you watch Dion last year? and that deal is terrible....thats Shea Weber $.....
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 3:03 PM ET
I think people overvalue Schenn way too much. Schenn is at max a 2nd line C, but looking like a decent 3rd C at the moment.

We all know that Dion came into the NHL as an offensive dman. He made his biggest impacts with a booming slapshot and a big body check. Despite this, Carlyle has forced him to play more as a defensive specialist, than an offensive one. Proof? In his advanced stats, only 22.7% of his zone starts were in the offensive zone. Not ideal for someone that's supposed to lead your powerplay. This was also by far the lowest on the team.
On the plus side, he's become a workhorse who looks like he made the transition to playing well defensively. The downside is that he burned out because of the lack of support he has on the blueline. He's highest paired partner was Gunnarsson who is realistically, a bottom pairing D on most competitive teams. Phaneuf isn't Toronto's problem, the lack of having more quality D like Phaneuf is Toronto's problem.

- ILoveLamp



Then Its settled....you can keep him!!
28Girouxsalem28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 08.09.2013

Jun 18 @ 3:05 PM ET
Then Its settled....you can keep him!!
- landros 2

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