I don't think Lou would be willing to pay Callahan what he's asking for the # of years he wants

Exactly. I'm sick of people discrediting Dion. I'm not even a leafs fan but I can recognize his skill and talent and that he's a top pairing d man that can impact a team immediately
- arichardson22

So you would trade Schenn, your first, + for Phanuef, mid pick? If that's the case you would regret that within 2 years when Schenn is scoring 25 goals as a power forward and skating around Dion like so many other teams did all year. He's a 2-3 D man who's paid like a #1 superstar D man. He's a product of Toronto over hype, just like how all their prospects are awesome and Burke "stocked the cupboards) meanwhile there is nobody busting down the door from their system to make any kind of impact or top two line potential. Don't fall for the hype.

Who knows if he does or does not. JJ in the hawks blog says its a "very real thing"

Time will tell. I wouldn't blame him for staying in Chicago either.
- ImThatGuy

you will only get Kane when he is 35+ and probably not even then...KEEP DREAMING BUFFALO

Exactly. I'm sick of people discrediting Dion. I'm not even a leafs fan but I can recognize his skill and talent and that he's a top pairing d man that can impact a team immediately
- arichardson22

Dion is a good defensmen with a 4/5 d man partner. No offense to Gunnar but he is not top pairing defender. I would like to see subban with a mediocre partener. You thought he made bad mistakes now with a really good partner.

Well I know two of the rumours are wrong:
1) no one wants to go back to buffalo2) if trotz wants a strong d, phaneuf will not help that
- Fakepartofme

Well the line to sign up for a blue and white sweater ain't very long either bud.

you will only get Kane when he is 35+ and probably not even then...KEEP DREAMING BUFFALO
- EnzoD

You might want to check your blogger then...

Kane has won a lot of accolades in Chicago. But my source tells me he really wants a Hart Trophy and a Richard Trophy. To get those, he needs to have a truly stellar season or two. And to do that, he probably needs a center not named Handzus or Regin to get him the puck. Probably not named Shaw either. Otherwise, the lure of Buffalo for Kane is quite real.

Kane wants a legit Center to play with...

What happened to the imminent trade
- Alexzanki

Is it Friday yet?

You might want to check your blogger then...

Kane has won a lot of accolades in Chicago. But my source tells me he really wants a Hart Trophy and a Richard Trophy. To get those, he needs to have a truly stellar season or two. And to do that, he probably needs a center not named Handzus or Regin to get him the puck. Probably not named Shaw either. Otherwise, the lure of Buffalo for Kane is quite real.

Kane wants a legit Center to play with...
- ImThatGuy

And who will Kane play with on buffalo?? I'm sure Chicago would grant kanes wishes to play with toews if it meant resigning him. Kane isn't going anywhere.

He is a 2/3 dman if that makes any sense. He's not pk,doughty , weber , shantenkirk . So he's under them but paid at a 1 dman. That's a bad contract. Vinny is a decent 2 or maybe 3 center who can still play. But needs to be in the center position and not moved all over. Is it a bad contract? Not in dollars but maybe years. Look around at other centers. Bolland wants 5 a year of more ! Are u kidding me! Available center spezza is what 7 m? Thornton ? There's def value to vinny but the years is the sticking point. Both players serve purposes to both teams and thats where the deal should start. We would need to sweaten the deal a bit but not much. No other roster players should be included. Just my opinion
- jmdodgeser4

You do know that the differance in points is only 6. Vinny got 6 more points then Dion. Big Deal.

You do know that the differance in points is only 6. Vinny got 6 more points then Dion. Big Deal.
- sparky

I don't think that's an issue. He was injured and played all over the lineup including 4th line.

And who will Kane play with on buffalo?? I'm sure Chicago would grant kanes wishes to play with toews if it meant resigning him. Kane isn't going anywhere.
- JVR_42_PK81

If Buffalo drafts Reinhart this year and one of McDavid/Eichel next. I'd say thats a good 1-2 punch.

All depends on the next 2 years. No one knows what is going to happen.

Callahan...yes please

So you would trade Schenn, your first, + for Phanuef, mid pick? If that's the case you would regret that within 2 years when Schenn is scoring 25 goals as a power forward and skating around Dion like so many other teams did all year. He's a 2-3 D man who's paid like a #1 superstar D man. He's a product of Toronto over hype, just like how all their prospects are awesome and Burke "stocked the cupboards) meanwhile there is nobody busting down the door from their system to make any kind of impact or top two line potential. Don't fall for the hype.
- SmielmaN

You are still sad about the Habs aren't you.

He is a 2/3 dman if that makes any sense. He's not pk,doughty , weber , shantenkirk . So he's under them but paid at a 1 dman. That's a bad contract. Vinny is a decent 2 or maybe 3 center who can still play. But needs to be in the center position and not moved all over. Is it a bad contract? Not in dollars but maybe years. Look around at other centers. Bolland wants 5 a year of more ! Are u kidding me! Available center spezza is what 7 m? Thornton ? There's def value to vinny but the years is the sticking point. Both players serve purposes to both teams and thats where the deal should start. We would need to sweaten the deal a bit but not much. No other roster players should be included. Just my opinion
- jmdodgeser4

just for argument sake; shattenkirk does not belong in that group. and im not at all sure hes a better two way guy than dion.
he's a smallish offence first guy.

shatten is a very talented dman, but Toronto is worse with him as their number 1 than they are with dion

So you would trade Schenn, your first, + for Phanuef, mid pick? If that's the case you would regret that within 2 years when Schenn is scoring 25 goals as a power forward and skating around Dion like so many other teams did all year. He's a 2-3 D man who's paid like a #1 superstar D man. He's a product of Toronto over hype, just like how all their prospects are awesome and Burke "stocked the cupboards) meanwhile there is nobody busting down the door from their system to make any kind of impact or top two line potential. Don't fall for the hype.
- SmielmaN

No I'm not saying I want to throw B Schenn in there but realistically Schenn may have to go if Philly really wants that too pairing d man. We are over crowded at the center position and I wouldn't mind having Couts 2C and bring Laughten up. But I would prefer to not lose B Schenn. Unless it was for a younger d man with friendlier cap.

I don't think that's an issue. He was injured and played all over the lineup including 4th line.
- jmdodgeser4

But mainly because flyers are crowded at the center and you're not gonna risk hurting schenns growth at center over a vet who came in as a role player

Same can be said for Tampa with their Vezina finalist...
- ImThatGuy

I wouldn't be so sure on that one, assuming Miller ends up in TB. TB has Vasilevski coming up, and Lindback also as the back up. Bishop has only had one good season, has a small cap hit for another season and can bring in a HUGE haul, think what WPG , NYI, CGY or maybe even SJ, PIT, STL would offer up. It could really be a boon to TB. I could see WPG offering Kane+...

Exactly. I'm sick of people discrediting Dion. I'm not even a leafs fan but I can recognize his skill and talent and that he's a top pairing d man that can impact a team immediately
- arichardson22

And simultaneously tear apart their team from the inside.....

If Buffalo drafts Reinhart this year and one of McDavid/Eichel next. I'd say thats a good 1-2 punch.
- ImThatGuy

Kane is a free agent next year. There is no way rienhart and McDavid will be at toews level in 1 year. And there is no gaurentee either of them will be a star in the NHL. Why would Kane take that risk? He has a perfect situation in Chicago he won't go anywhere.

And Who's to say buffalo would get McDavid? They have no guarantee for last place. Then there is the lottery.

I have no problem moving a 3rd round pick for Dion.Either that was a type-o, a joke, or his truly handicapped.
- Jeropotato

Yeah sure he meant the 3rd overall....which is even more laughable...

No way philly would trade B.Schenn +++ for dion. No way would I do it straight up fro schenn. add in the fact that there is a real possibility florida moves their pick. my focus would be on Florida not a 29 year old turnover machine in dion. he is a 3 at best on just about every team imo. some of the most brutal turnovers in recent memory come from phenuef. Florida is reportedly asking for a top six forward. B.schenn is exactly that already with huge room to grow. B schenn and phillys first for Florida's first. we will even throw in vinny. don't say vinny doesn't have value either. the length of his contract is bad but dollars aren't. he scored 20 goals while playing fourth line mins and moving all over the roster playing out of position.

Philly gets eckblad and have a roster spot for both laughton and akeson to start the year. they then send Coburn to edm for eberle. (that's me reaching for the stars) to open a spot for ghost or hagg.
florida gets a future 1st line center in schenn (currently a num 2c) and 3rd line center in vinny. plus num 17 pick.

Kane is a free agent next year. There is no way rienhart and McDavid will be at toews level in 1 year. And there is no gaurentee either of them will be a star in the NHL. Why would Kane take that risk? He has a perfect situation in Chicago he won't go anywhere.

And Who's to say buffalo would get McDavid? They have no guarantee for last place. Then there is the lottery.
- JVR_42_PK81

Thats why I also put Eichel there. And also said it all depends on the next 2 years.

No way philly would trade B.Schenn +++ for dion. No way would I do it straight up fro schenn. add in the fact that there is a real possibility florida moves their pick. my focus would be on Florida not a 29 year old turnover machine in dion. he is a 3 at best on just about every team imo. some of the most brutal turnovers in recent memory come from phenuef. Florida is reportedly asking for a top six forward. B.schenn is exactly that already with huge room to grow. B schenn and phillys first for Florida's first. we will even throw in vinny. don't say vinny doesn't have value either. the length of his contract is bad but dollars aren't. he scored 20 goals while playing fourth line mins and moving all over the roster playing out of position.

Philly gets eckblad and have a roster spot for both laughton and akeson to start the year. they then send Coburn to edm for eberle. (that's me reaching for the stars) to open a spot for ghost or hagg.
florida gets a future 1st line center in schenn (currently a num 2c) and 3rd line center in vinny. plus num 17 pick.
- 28Girouxsalem28

I love you .


Whatever your smokin though... Please pass it to me.

No way philly would trade B.Schenn +++ for dion. No way would I do it straight up fro schenn. add in the fact that there is a real possibility florida moves their pick. my focus would be on Florida not a 29 year old turnover machine in dion. he is a 3 at best on just about every team imo. some of the most brutal turnovers in recent memory come from phenuef. Florida is reportedly asking for a top six forward. B.schenn is exactly that already with huge room to grow. B schenn and phillys first for Florida's first. we will even throw in vinny. don't say vinny doesn't have value either. the length of his contract is bad but dollars aren't. he scored 20 goals while playing fourth line mins and moving all over the roster playing out of position.

Philly gets eckblad and have a roster spot for both laughton and akeson to start the year. they then send Coburn to edm for eberle. (that's me reaching for the stars) to open a spot for ghost or hagg.
florida gets a future 1st line center in schenn (currently a num 2c) and 3rd line center in vinny. plus num 17 pick.
- 28Girouxsalem28

At best a #3 on every team?
Ok...I will wait...you go ahead and list 2-3 guys on every team that are better than Phaneuf...guarantee he would be top pairing in Philly.

At best a #3 on every team?
Ok...I will wait...you go ahead and list 2-3 guys on every team that are better than Phaneuf...guarantee he would be top pairing in Philly.
- BoBBeR56

just about any d man qualifies for a num 1 in philly
there are at least 15 other dmen I would much rather have then dion.