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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:45 PM ET
Booth gonna be bought out in VAN. Think EDM should go after him? 1 year prove himself deal?
- TheNugeIsHuge

Is he any good anymore? What does he bring to the table?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:47 PM ET
Is he any good anymore? What does he bring to the table?
- Jeropotato


Hunting skills, bo staff skills, nunchuck skills
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:49 PM ET
Is he any good anymore? What does he bring to the table?
- Jeropotato


had big injury problems the past 2-2.5 seasons. Can make and take a pass unlike everyone on EDM's 4th line ATM. The guy can play a bit. I could see putting him on the 3rd line with say Arco/Draisaitl n maybe Winnik/Perron
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:50 PM ET
had big injury problems the past 2-2.5 seasons. Can make and take a pass unlike everyone on EDM's 4th line ATM. The guy can play a bit. I could see putting him on the 3rd line with say Arco/Draisaitl n maybe Winnik/Perron
- TheNugeIsHuge

If he'll play for 2mill or less ?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:52 PM ET
If he'll play for 2mill or less ?
- Jeropotato


Coming off a 19 point season, needed a conditioning stint in the AHL, and bought out. I bet he would
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:57 PM ET
And he will say thanks but (frank) off....pretty sure we'd have to pay him the whole shabang . (frank) it, it's Katz's cash.
- Jeropotato




Happy to give him 18 over 3


Guy is awesome



HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:03 PM ET
I don't know if I'm crazy about that. Myers was about as good as Petry this year. Would you bank 3rd overall on him getting back into form? I get that there's risk in say Draisaitl too but still

even Ehrhoff. He'd be an awesome fit, but he'll be 32 next year. How many seasons as a top 3 guy does he have left? Worth it?

- TheNugeIsHuge

Myers ceiling his higher than ld's imo. Or at the very least similar.

And im not sure if u mean the petry that was in over his head thru no fault of his own. Or the one that played respectable in stretches, developed some and showed flashes. By all accounts, post the 20 game mark, Myers was at least the former.

I also believe his ceiling is at whole other level than petry.

Add a guy with his size and potential that can also move the puck, to a player that also has a ton of size, physicality and potential, which happens to be the type of player I believe we sorely need in the top 6.....

I take that deal and run
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:07 PM ET
Is he any good anymore? What does he bring to the table?
- Jeropotato

Tough to say.
Torts hated him and didnt give him alot of opportunities even when he was healthy.

He can still play abit tho and is a solid power forward when hes on.

I dunno. For cheap if we had the money. Wouldnt expect it be add up to too much tho
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:10 PM ET
Myers ceiling his higher than ld's imo. Or at the very least similar.

And im not sure if u mean the petry that was in over his head thru no fault of his own. Or the one that played respectable in stretches, developed some and showed flashes. By all accounts, post the 20 game mark, Myers was at least the former.

I also believe his ceiling is at whole other level than petry.

Add a guy with his size and potential that can also move the puck, to a player that also has a ton of size, physicality and potential, which happens to be the type of player I believe we sorely need in the top 6.....

I take that deal and run

- hugefemale dog77


I mean Myers level of play was about equal to Petry's this year. Myers definitely has a higher potential, but he's also got the potential to be as good as Petry at a 5.5M dollar cap hit. I'd certainly hope he could live up to his potential, but if he continues the road he's been on, EDM'd be hooped.

Foligno would be a good fit.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:11 PM ET
Tough to say.
Torts hated him and didnt give him alot of opportnuties even when he was healthy.

He can still play abit tho and is a solid power forward when hes on.

I dunno. For cheap if we had the money. Wouldnt expect it be add up to too much tho

- hugefemale dog77


just a useful bottom 6er that might come to EDM on the cheap. Might beat offering a guy like Pouliot 3.5M
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:19 PM ET
Hunting skills, bo staff skills, nunchuck skills
- DDM-Coga

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:21 PM ET
Hunting skills, bo staff skills, nunchuck skills
- DDM-Coga


HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:22 PM ET
I mean Myers level of play was about equal to Petry's this year. Myers definitely has a higher potential, but he's also got the potential to be as good as Petry at a 5.5M dollar cap hit. I'd certainly hope he could live up to his potential, but if he continues the road he's been on, EDM'd be hooped.

Foligno would be a good fit.

- TheNugeIsHuge

I kinda got stars in my eyes for him. I remember that unconscious level of play he was at a few years ago.

But just for argument sake; suppose he develops abit more, but kinda stalls abit and cant eliminate the mental errors. Thus never getting to superstar status. You've still got a 6'8 dman that can skate and has pretty good offensive capabilities. A top 4 guy id say at worst and prob a mil overpaid.

And foligno.

While ld has never played a game in the nhl.

The upside is worth the possible downside imo.
Certainly fair points, but from my view, taking thay deal is a no brainer
Otsegolectric
Buffalo Sabres
Location: rochester, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 17 @ 10:28 PM ET
Well I'm not too worried about our top 6. I think if we spread our talent out among 3 lines and add some size with complimentary wingers, we'll be in decent shape.

For the record, I'd love a guy like Foligno, but obviously Buffalo would want a real piece coming back as they probably want to keep him himself.

Maybe we can grab a cheaper guy or a guy from a team less attached to their younger players.

- Morris


Ya thats a gr8 alternative spreading out in 3 lines.

I'd agree on the attached point if darcy regier was still our gm. Tim murray isnt attached to anyone at this point

I think the piece would be the pick, but foligno alone wouldnt do it. Ehrhoff is 32 but doesnt play a physical game, could easily play another 5/6 good years
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:28 PM ET
I kinda got stars in my eyes for him. I remember that unconscious level of play he was at a few years ago.

But just for argument sake; suppose he develops abit more, but kinda stalls abit and cant eliminate the mental errors. Thus never getting to superstar status. You've still got a 6'8 dman that can skate and has pretty good offensive capabilities. A top 4 guy id say at worst and prob a mil overpaid.

And foligno.

While ld has never played a game in the nhl.

The upside is worth the possible downside imo.
Certainly fair points, but from my view, taking thay deal is a no brainer

- hugefemale dog77


On the flip side of that, though, is that Myers continues to be about a #4 Dman of equal level as Petry with a cap hit of 5.5M. Foligno caps at a 20-25P easily acquirable bottom 6er. Draisaitl/Bennett turns into a 60-70P #1C and EDM still needs Gagner to fill that 2C slot.

Not saying I'm adamantly against the deal. There's just a few pretty realistic ways it could go very south for EDM
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 10:32 PM ET
I kinda got stars in my eyes for him. I remember that unconscious level of play he was at a few years ago.

But just for argument sake; suppose he develops abit more, but kinda stalls abit and cant eliminate the mental errors. Thus never getting to superstar status. You've still got a 6'8 dman that can skate and has pretty good offensive capabilities. A top 4 guy id say at worst and prob a mil overpaid.

And foligno.

While ld has never played a game in the nhl.

The upside is worth the possible downside imo.
Certainly fair points, but from my view, taking thay deal is a no brainer

- hugefemale dog77


I personally dont give a poop if a guy is 6' 8" if he plays soft. I'd rather have guys that play tough. Andrew Shaw is 5' 10" and plays tougher than most guys 6'3" +. Height to me is not that important.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:35 PM ET
I personally dont give a poop if a guy is 6' 8" if he plays soft. I'd rather have guys that play tough. Andrew Shaw is 5' 10" and plays tougher than most guys 6'3" +. Height to me is not that important.
- Iggysbff


Ya I usually think to myself, "how good would we really think this guy is if he was 5'8?" but there's something seriously intriguing about a 6'8 D that can skate
Otsegolectric
Buffalo Sabres
Location: rochester, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 17 @ 10:38 PM ET
I personally dont give a poop if a guy is 6' 8" if he plays soft. I'd rather have guys that play tough. Andrew Shaw is 5' 10" and plays tougher than most guys 6'3" +. Height to me is not that important.
- Iggysbff


Not sure how much u saw the sabres this year, but myers was anything but soft. He started playing with a snarl when nolan came on board.

Knocked the crap out of several players not to mention a suspension.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 10:38 PM ET
Ya I usually think to myself, "how good would we really think this guy is if he was 5'8?" but there's something seriously intriguing about a 6'8 D that can skate
- TheNugeIsHuge


He doesnt use it though. He needs Chara to coach him. He doesnt use his size or strength. He barely uses his extra reach. He "could" be dominant. But he's not.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:39 PM ET
just a useful bottom 6er that might come to EDM on the cheap. Might beat offering a guy like Pouliot 3.5M
- TheNugeIsHuge

Kind of a moot point since NO ONE would ever, EEEEEVER sign a free agent contract in Edmonton. Or so I have heard.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:42 PM ET
Kind of a moot point since NO ONE would ever, EEEEEVER sign a free agent contract in Edmonton. Or so I have heard.
- Jeropotato


I mean according to the almighty mochoson that is the outcome in all cases
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:43 PM ET
I personally dont give a poop if a guy is 6' 8" if he plays soft. I'd rather have guys that play tough. Andrew Shaw is 5' 10" and plays tougher than most guys 6'3" +. Height to me is not that important.
- Iggysbff

Myers isnt soft.

In fact, hes been physically dominant at times. How could you not be at that size.?

Just hasnt found a way to be consistent with it, without also taking himself outta the play. I also think offence first guys tend to get pigeonholed abit that they arent rough and tumble defenders.

Imo, he has every tool to be a truly dominant player in this league save iq.
Now some say that can come with time and experience, some say its extremelyvital and cant be taught. I think in his case the former is true. But who knows for sure. He was better under nolans tutelage tho
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:43 PM ET
He doesnt use it though. He needs Chara to coach him. He doesnt use his size or strength. He barely uses his extra reach. He "could" be dominant. But he's not.
- Iggysbff


I'm not really for the deal, though. I think EDM'd be better off developing within and trading for more of a sure thing(Big Buff! or less substantial assets for Ehrhoff)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:47 PM ET
Booth will be available in two days. I hear he is a top 6
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
Booth will be available in two days. I hear he is a top 6
- VANTEL


at 2M-ish he'd be a pretty damn good bottom 6er and even you can admit that
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