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CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
Meszaros would likely come cheap. You'd be best served signing him cheap to a 1 year "prove yourself" deal, rotating him through the bottom pairing until he shows some consistency.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: if the Oilers aren't signing Matt Niskanen, theres 3 guys in FA who can eat some serious minutes and help this team.

Kyle Quincey, Anton Stralman, and Ron Hainsey

- mochoson


If we could pull Stralman and Hainsey I'd be very comfortable with our blueline. Highly unlikely but still it would be great
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
No to Quincey. The other two I'd take a run at.
- Iggysbff


Quincey is better then most of your current blue-line. Also won't break the bank. Basically a left handed Petry.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:08 PM ET
Quincey is better then most of your current blue-line. Also won't break the bank. Basically a left handed Petry.
- mochoson

Very wrong.
LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:09 PM ET
Oh btw. I for one am not a fan of MR leaving LA.
Would be stupid letting him go.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:09 PM ET
If we could pull Stralman and Hainsey I'd be very comfortable with our blueline. Highly unlikely but still it would be great
- CrustyRooster


Stralman yes, but Hainsey is a very realistic acquisition I think. Stralman is probably going to get some ridiculous offers. You'd have to offer him close to 4.5 million on a 3 or 4 year deal.

I don't think he's worth that much, but he'd be an anchor on your blue-line for a few years while guys like Marincin, Klefbom, and Nurse develop into regulars.

Ditto Hainsey; he'll likely come under 3 mill
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:09 PM ET
Quincey is better then most of your current blue-line. Also won't break the bank. Basically a left handed Petry.
- mochoson

Agreed. He gets a lot of guff in Detroit because they have such high standards, but he really wasn't all that bad. His major shortcoming was- much like Petry- making careless mistakes at times.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
Very wrong.
- Iggysbff


Not wrong, very differing opinions
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:12 PM ET
Stralman yes, but Hainsey is a very realistic acquisition I think. Stralman is probably going to get some ridiculous offers. You'd have to offer him close to 4.5 million on a 3 or 4 year deal.

I don't think he's worth that much, but he'd be an anchor on your blue-line for a few years while guys like Marincin, Klefbom, and Nurse develop into regulars.

Ditto Hainsey; he'll likely come under 3 mill

- mochoson

I'd like Hainsey or Mitchell to partner with Shultz.

Keep Marincin/Petry together

Need a partner for Ference on third pair.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:12 PM ET
Quincey is better then most of your current blue-line. Also won't break the bank. Basically a left handed Petry.
- mochoson

petry is undoubtedly a better dman than kyle quincey. petry was thrown to the wolves far worse and victimized due to this often. but this shouldn't be an indication that he's a bottom pairing guy or even 4 at best.

a better skater, better two ways and a higher ceiling. I think petry can be a fantastic #3. and would even feel comfortable with him at 2 provided he has a true #1 alongside him

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
Agreed. He gets a lot of guff in Detroit because they have such high standards, but he really wasn't all that bad. His major shortcoming was- much like Petry- making careless mistakes at times.
- MaximumBone


What dman doesn't at times? About 10 guys in the NHL named Doughty, Keith, Chara, and so on? Even they aren't "perfect", no player is.

Kyle Quincey was good enough to play in Detroit's top 4 all season. Like I said, he's equal to maybe only Petry on Edmontons roster.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'd like Hainsey or Mitchell to partner with Shultz.

Keep Marincin/Petry together

Need a partner for Ference on third pair.

- Iggysbff

I think Ference could be a 2nd pairing guy.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'd like Hainsey or Mitchell to partner with Shultz.

Keep Marincin/Petry together

Need a partner for Ference on third pair.

- Iggysbff

fuking guy still has gas in the tank.

he was vital to their cause when he came back.

haven't seen him that solid since his Vancouver days. (when I felt he was one of the most underrated dmen in the league)
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'd like Hainsey or Mitchell to partner with Shultz.

Keep Marincin/Petry together

Need a partner for Ference on third pair.

- Iggysbff


Mitchell is to old and beaten down. Not worth it.

As for the bold? Like I said: Quincey. That's a better 3rd pairing then most teams can say.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:15 PM ET
fuking guy still has gas in the tank.

he was vital to their cause when he came back.

haven't seen him that solid since his Vancouver days. (when I felt he was one of the most underrated men in the league)

- hugefemale dog77


I'd throw a 2 year deal at him. For the same money I'd take Mitchel every day over Quincey.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
fuking guy still has gas in the tank.

he was vital to their cause when he came back.

haven't seen him that solid since his Vancouver days. (when I felt he was one of the most underrated men in the league)

- hugefemale dog77

Agreed he still has some to give and could be a good teacher
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:17 PM ET
Mitchell is to old and beaten down. Not worth it.

As for the bold? Like I said: Quincey. That's a better 3rd pairing then most teams can say.

- mochoson

we weren't watching the same final 2 rounds
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:20 PM ET
Meszaros is done. No (frank)ing thanks.
- Iggysbff

That and take a guy from the Leastern conference and throwing him into the west would likely kill him.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:20 PM ET
petry is undoubtedly a better dman than kyle quincey. petry was thrown to the wolves far worse and victimized due to this often. but this shouldn't be an indication that he's a bottom pairing guy or even 4 at best.

a better skater, better two ways and a higher ceiling. I think petry can be a fantastic #3. and would even feel comfortable with him at 2 provided he has a true #1 alongside him

- hugefemale dog77


On a contending team? Petry is a 2nd pairing guy or a 3rd pairing anchor. Ditto Quincey.

I don't know how you come to conclude the bolded statement above. Petry is more physical but also turns the puck over way, way more. Petry is likely at his ceiling, and they are actually almost identical in skating ability. They are essentially the same defencemen.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
we weren't watching the same final 2 rounds
- hugefemale dog77


No, we were. Your forgetting the situation Mitchell was in. He's been in LA for some time now. That isn't just a team. That's a family. That's one unit playing on the ice with each other.

If you think your getting that same Mitchell here at his age, your sadly mistaken.
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
I wonder if the oilers try booth as a project player. He was a good strong player in flordia, but never really meshed well with the canucks. One would be gambling on him being able to find his game again in a different system. but at this point I don't know if the oilers should be trying to target guys who COULD bounce back. Also I like Rj Umberger, would be willing to take his contract but not if that means ganger. I seem umberger getting something like a hemsky deal late draft picks that would be fine with me. Lastly I see people saying perron should be on the third line. Please guys, he had nearly 60 points last year, was second on the team in scoring. he belongs on the second line there is no need to bump him down a line. 50 to 60 points is an acceptable number for a 2nd liner and I believe he will only get better with Yakupov improvement and someone like Draisiniti between him and yak. theres nothing wrong with this top six, it's the bottom six and really only the third line that's the issue right now. the fourth can have Gordon and henricks plus one other solid Defencive minded forward really ot make it a good shut down line. the third line is the one that's in limbo. Perron doesn't belong there though.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
On a contending team? Petry is a 2nd pairing guy or a 3rd pairing anchor. Ditto Quincey.

I don't know how you come to conclude the bolded statement above. Petry is more physical but also turns the puck over way, way more. Petry is likely at his ceiling, and they are actually almost identical in skating ability. They are essentially the same defencemen.

- mochoson

likely at his ceiling? do you feel this somehow strengthened your retort by spouting total conjecture?
I disagree with your notion and your conjecture whole heartedly.

petry played as a number 1 for the bulk of this year. there's no comparison in the assignments the two were given.


the same defencemen as kyle quincey.....k bud
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
No, we were. Your forgetting the situation Mitchell was in. He's been in LA for some time now. That isn't just a team. That's a family. That's one unit playing on the ice with each other.

If you think your getting that same Mitchell here at his age, your sadly mistaken.

- mochoson



I see. there's no possibility he'd wanna play for his teammates the same elsewhere.


another quality post.....
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:32 PM ET
I see. there's no possibility he'd wanna play for his teammates the same elsewhere.

another quality post.....

- hugefemale dog77

Do you really expect quality posts from someone who doesn't know the difference between, "your", and "you're"???
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:35 PM ET
I've said before I'd take Quincey on the Oilers. He's not the answer but his age is right and he would be a good stop gap. Sign him for 3 to 4 years. By then Nurse and Klefbom should be ready. I'm sure we could find a trade for him later on.

Marincin Petry
Quincey Schultz
Ference McQuaid

Ideal? No. Improvement? Yes.

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:41 PM ET
I see. there's no possibility he'd wanna play for his teammates the same elsewhere.


another quality post.....

- hugefemale dog77


....that you clearly didn't comprehend

Has nothing to do with Mitchell "playing hard for his team-mates". Edmonton is still multiple pieces away from even being a contending team, let a lone one that plays as well together as the Kings do.
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