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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
Eric can't re-sign on the spot though.
- Lahey

Why not?

You cant sign a new contract starting when the current one ends?

Maybe it's different with rfa's, but nuge did it.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
Might as well make a package for Jordan in there as well, otherwise don't even go after Eric.
- Lahey


Both Staals for Gagner + 2 1sts (preferably 2015 + 2016) + 2nd + Marincin/Klefbom + forward prospect

Big price to pay but our centre depth would be crazy
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
Why not?

You cant sign a new contract starting when the current one ends?

Maybe it's different with rfa's, but nuge did it.

- hugefemale dog77

Nuge signed his when the last year of his contract kicked in. Eric can't sign until next July.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:09 PM ET
Nuge signed his when the last year of his contract kicked in. Eric can't sign until next July.
- Lahey

I see. So you have to have only 1 year remaining.

Eff it then. No dice
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:11 PM ET

- ystoil

Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:33 PM ET
I see. So you have to have only 1 year remaining.

Eff it then. No dice

- hugefemale dog77

I feel like the double Staal acquisition would put us in a good position to re-sign Eric.

Then at the very least we'd have Jordan if Eric decided that playing with his bro was not worth playing in Edmonton.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
I feel like the double Staal acquisition would put us in a good position to re-sign Eric.

Then at the very least we'd have Jordan if Eric decided that playing with his bro was not worth playing in Edmonton.

- Morris


Yeah well we definitely don't have the scratch to pay those to (frank)ing deals and improve our defense...
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
Chuck Gormley of CSN Washington: The Hurricanes are dangling Eric Staal, and the Oilers may be willing to part with Sam Gagner or Nail Yakupov.

Gagner + 2015 1st + Marincin is a price I'd pay.

Hall Nuge Eberle
Perron Staal Yakupov

- ystoil


Geez you always over pay by a mile.

Staal is good but man. 9.25 mill a year this year then 9.5 for next year. No way I give up that much for him.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
Geez you always over pay by a mile.

Staal is good but man. 9.25 mill a year this year then 9.5 for next year. No way I give up that much for him.

- Iggysbff


Ystoil is a cross between Bobby Clarke , JF jr. and Mike Milbury......
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:43 PM ET
Ystoil is a cross between Bobby Clarke , JF jr. and Mike Milbury......
- Jeropotato

Damn sure glad he's not the Oilers GM.....
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:43 PM ET
I see. So you have to have only 1 year remaining.

Eff it then. No dice

- hugefemale dog77


But if you can swing Jordan too... there may be incentive. Especially if they realize how much of an improvement they would be here
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
Geez you always over pay by a mile.

Staal is good but man. 9.25 mill a year this year then 9.5 for next year. No way I give up that much for him.

- Iggysbff


cap hit is 8.25 tho?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
cap hit is 8.25 tho?
- ystoil


Well in THAT case.....
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
Ystoil is a cross between Bobby Clarke , JF jr. and Mike Milbury......
- Jeropotato


ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
Damn sure glad he's not the Oilers GM.....
- Iggysbff


I would be a hall of fame GM!
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
cap hit is 8.25 tho?
- ystoil

Correct. Carolina is bleeding money and wants to shed salary. So we are going to over pay them just for the pleasure of taking that salary off of them? For a guy thats declined and is a UFA in 2 years? Thats a great way to ensure the Oilers are bottom feeders again in a few years.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
Correct. Carolina is bleeding money and wants to shed salary. So we are going to over pay them just for the pleasure of taking that salary off of them? For a guy thats declined and is a UFA in 2 years? Thats a great way to ensure the Oilers are bottom feeders again in a few years.
- Iggysbff


Staal is an instant upgrade over Gagner

We have depth on left hand side of D

One first rounder won't kill us

With that trade we would be out of the basement so that pick wouldn't be top 5 IMO

Also, as easy as it is to discount Staal resigning here, we don't know for sure. If he does decide to walk, we'd likely have our 3rd overall pick ready and we move Staal for assets if we aren't in the playoffs.

Eric still put up 61 points it's not like he's Mike Richards playing 4th line minutes
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
Correct. Carolina is bleeding money and wants to shed salary. So we are going to over pay them just for the pleasure of taking that salary off of them? For a guy thats declined and is a UFA in 2 years? Thats a great way to ensure the Oilers are bottom feeders again in a few years.
- Iggysbff

Speaking of bleeding money anyone hear about SJ? Sounds like Bettman is stepping in to do some business talks for them. Arena needs upgrades and have a poopty tv deal. Maybe they end up like STL(during Pronger era) and make some drastic moves.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
Staal is an instant upgrade over Gagner

We have depth on left hand side of D

One first rounder won't kill us

With that trade we would be out of the basement so that pick wouldn't be top 5 IMO

Also, as easy as it is to discount Staal resigning here, we don't know for sure. If he does decide to walk, we'd likely have our 3rd overall pick ready and we move Staal for assets if we aren't in the playoffs.

Eric still put up 61 points it's not like he's Mike Richards playing 4th line minutes

- ystoil


Staal is undoubtedly an upgrade on Gagner. But to give up Marincin and 2015 first on top of that is ludicrous. Even with Staal there is no guarantee we are much better without improving our D and you just gave away our best possession Dman from last season and a young guy still improving at that!

Staal's 61 points for 9.25 mill and giving them that package is pure stupidity.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:01 PM ET
Speaking of bleeding money anyone hear about SJ? Sounds like Bettman is stepping in to do some business talks for them. Arena needs upgrades and have a poopty tv deal. Maybe they end up like STL(during Pronger era) and make some drastic moves.
- Lahey


Yeah they'll get something renegotiated. Only getting 7 mill per year for the next 14 years is ridiculous. They'll figure it out. Who ever signed that original deal should be hung though....lol.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
Staal is undoubtedly an upgrade on Gagner. But to give up Marincin and 2015 first on top of that is ludicrous. Even with Staal there is no guarantee we are much better without improving our D and you just gave away our best possession Dman from last season and a young guy still improving at that!

Staal's 61 points for 9.25 mill and giving them that package is pure stupidity.

- Iggysbff


I can get on board with this but defenseman learning curves are anything but linear. There is no guarantee he continues on that upward trend (I wouldn't bet against him)

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
Staal is an instant upgrade over Gagner

We have depth on left hand side of D

One first rounder won't kill us

With that trade we would be out of the basement so that pick wouldn't be top 5 IMO

Also, as easy as it is to discount Staal resigning here, we don't know for sure. If he does decide to walk, we'd likely have our 3rd overall pick ready and we move Staal for assets if we aren't in the playoffs.

Eric still put up 61 points it's not like he's Mike Richards playing 4th line minutes

- ystoil
Biggest issue for me is Staal's salary. That would add yet another large salary to out forward group.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
eric's real dollars don't matter to Edmonton.
only his cap hit. which is still a lot. but 8.25 is the only pertinent number to us, not the 9.25.



there's some drawbacks with erics contract and stuff. but I don't see how we can not strongly consider a center of his stature.
we're one of the worst teams in the league.
this isn't a 37 year old trying to cash in on the last couple years of his career that aint gonna do much for us. it's a 29 year old, who despite a down season for him, still has to be considered one of the elite players in the world.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
For our Homie Jero....whose fart gif finally did him in.....


HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
For our Homie Jero....whose fart gif finally did him in.....



- Iggysbff

for real? ??
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