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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:33 AM ET
I would think so!? That's A LOT for a guy who has pending concussion issues...

Great player, but I don't trust his health long-term to give up on Schenn and a first.

- Flyers_V88


I actually thought the offer was lite on the Flyers side. Josi had 13 goals and 40 points while playing over 20+ mins per game. He is also only 24.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
I love Coburn, but I think he is going to be the target for most teams also looking for D, ala Edmonton and the like.

My first objective is trading Vinny though. I feel bad for him, but he was never going to a be a good fit here long-term anyhow, too many centers already. Maybe package him, Laughton, the 17th, and maybe Grossmann for the 1st and minor assets in return? lol.

- Flyers_V88


I think he would have had better season with Lavi system. Plus he had old man back problems. I feel bad for him too bc I was so excited when we signed him
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
This and JMatchett's were funny. Sorry for not supplying the laugh it deserved until now.


- PhillySportsGuy



All your laughs are belong to me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
I actually thought the offer was lite on the Flyers side. Josi had 13 goals and 40 points while playing over 20+ mins per game. He is also only 24.
- mickel25


I think it's about in line. B Schenn (assuming you meant him) gives them some sorely-lacking offensive pop up front and gives them 2 first-round picks in a pretty decent, level draft. Josi's good, but the backbone of their defense is gonna be (presumably) Weber and Jones.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
I actually thought the offer was lite on the Flyers side. Josi had 13 goals and 40 points while playing over 20+ mins per game. He is also only 24.
- mickel25


He did play with Weber though. Carle played those kind of minutes and had 35 points while with Pronger.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
All your laughs are belong to me.
- Tomahawk


I challenge you to a swordfight for his laughs.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:37 AM ET
I challenge you to a swordfight for his laughs.
- jmatchett383



You're making me blush.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:38 AM ET
I challenge you to a swordfight for his laughs.
- jmatchett383


PhillySportsGuy of Troy
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Jun 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
I was unaware of a chronic concussion issue. He played in 72 games last year and all 48 the year before.
- mickel25

I remember him having issues in 2012, and in Europe. All I'm saying is that's a lot to give up for someone who may or may not be a hit away from missing time due to a concussion.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
HE HATH SPOKEN
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:40 AM ET
He did play with Weber though. Carle played those kind of minutes and had 35 points while with Pronger.
- PhillySportsGuy


Do you think Coburn and Josi would make a legit top pairing?
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Jun 17 @ 11:40 AM ET
I actually thought the offer was lite on the Flyers side. Josi had 13 goals and 40 points while playing over 20+ mins per game. He is also only 24.
- mickel25

While I think Josi is a great player with tons of upside, I personally think Schenn could/will offer up much more than Josi will. Josi can put up numbers, but can he be a shut-down man as well?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Do you think Coburn and Josi would make a legit top pairing?
- mickel25


Oui. Not one of the best, but definitely respectable.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
At least we don't have to talk about potential Yakupov scenarios anymore...
- Tomahawk


I'm waiting for those to happen
FlyerAdam30
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sewell, NJ
Joined: 04.15.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
What about BSchenn and our 1st for Shattenkirk instead of Josi. Would that be enough for both sides?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
I'm waiting for those to happen
- ob18


Youaremistaken
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
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Jun 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
What about BSchenn and our 1st for Shattenkirk instead of Josi. Would that be enough for both sides?
- FlyerAdam30


It may perk up the ears of the Blues, but I think you'd need to add a prospect to make that happen. A legit prospect like Laughton, Ghost or Morin

Edit: I don't see why the Blues would be trading him. He's the type of guy you'd need to overpay for because they have no need to move him.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
I'm waiting for those to happen
- ob18

Yakupov for 2014 4th, 2015 5th, 2016 6th, 2018 conditional 7th (the condition contingent on number of takeaways...could turn into a 2017 7th)
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
It may perk up the ears of the Blues, but I think you'd need to add a prospect to make that happen. A legit prospect like Laughton, Ghost or Morin

Edit: I don't see why the Blues would be trading him. He's the type of guy you'd need to overpay for because they have no need to move him.

- PhillySportsGuy

Sort of like all the "legit top pair defensemen" in the NHL?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Yakupov for 2014 4th, 2015 5th, 2016 6th, 2018 conditional 7th (the condition contingent on number of takeaways...could turn into a 2017 7th)
- Giroux_Is_God



... 'cuz Giroux needs a sniper.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
... 'cuz Giroux needs a sniper.
- Tomahawk

YVES ANDERCAINE
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
But our three favorite curmudgeons say we are in cap hell.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
While I think Josi is a great player with tons of upside, I personally think Schenn could/will offer up much more than Josi will. Josi can put up numbers, but can he be a shut-down man as well?
- Flyers_V88


That is the question. I got to watch the Preds about 10 times last year and that guy seemed to be omnipresent.

I would make the trade as is. I feel Josi is more valuable than B. Schenn and a 1st rounder and hope his defense is respectable.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
Sort of like all the "legit top pair defensemen" in the NHL?
- Giroux_Is_God


Pretty much. The Ducks had incentive to move Pronger (age, FA in a year, team rebuild) and they still garnered a large haul.

The only young, #1 defenseman I see being available is Subban because he'll want to break the bank. Even that's unlikely.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
An interesting note on Spezza. The Sens blog is saying that NSH is on his no trade list. To me I like that because if Vinny is willing to go to NSH is keeps one player from NSH trying to aquire Spezza. So then maybe Vnny can become an option for them. i know, just a theory.
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