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Ogilthorpe2
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Jun 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
So Iginla got a contract last year including a $3MM bonus for playing 10 games - which counts against this year's cap.

Certainly too simple but: why don't the boys sign $6MM contracts with $3MM in bonuses for each year?

Their first year cap hit would be only $6MM each; after that it would be $9MMeach year, but the cap would be going up after the first year too. They'd get hit with $3MM the year after they retire but who cares?

Must be some reason it would be disallowed - but if Iginla could do it....

- StLBravesFan

I think you can only have bonuses on entry level deals and 35+ deals or something along those lines.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
So Iginla got a contract last year including a $3MM bonus for playing 10 games - which counts against this year's cap.

Certainly too simple but: why don't the boys sign $6MM contracts with $3MM in bonuses for each year?

Their first year cap hit would be only $6MM each; after that it would be $9MMeach year, but the cap would be going up after the first year too. They'd get hit with $3MM the year after they retire but who cares?

Must be some reason it would be disallowed - but if Iginla could do it....

- StLBravesFan


Contracts with bonuses are only available to Entry Level deals and for players older than 35

DAMMIT OGI....let me have my moment!
StLBravesFan
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Jun 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
No, they do not have to change the logo - so since the Blackhawks are named after a military division, it is not the same.
- powerenforcer


Except, of course, for the Indianhead - which is not part of the division's logo.
Ogilthorpe2
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Jun 18 @ 1:08 PM ET
Contracts with bonuses are only available to Entry Level deals and for players older than 35

DAMMIT OGI....let me have my moment!

- eburgio



I'm off to work soon. Shine on
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:15 PM ET
Except, of course, for the Indianhead - which is not part of the division's logo.
- StLBravesFan

The Blackhawk Indianhead itself may not be an issue. My daughter teaches in a Native Community on the Western shore of James Bay, about 1,200 miles north of Toronto. The community has hockey and lacrosse teams for the kids in the community and every single team has the Blackhawk logo sewn onto different coloured sweaters. I also remember Everette Sanipass saying that the Mic Mac tribe across James Bay on the Eastern Side identified with the ‘proud Blackhawk logo’ , of course all it takes is one or two people to screech loud enough …..
Ogilthorpe2
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Jun 18 @ 1:17 PM ET
Wings use compliance buyout on Jordin Tootoo.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:19 PM ET
I would like Eller. I know he's been inconsistent, but I believe he could be a beast between Kane and Saad/Sharp.

53.2% at the dot last year too.

- Ogilthorpe2


Inconsistent in Montreal yes. I think that can change with Kane on his wing. His speed is what really intrigues me. Dude can fly and is still young.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:21 PM ET
The Blackhawk Indianhead itself may not be an issue. My daughter teaches in a Native Community on the Western shore of James Bay, about 1,200 miles north of Toronto. The community has hockey and lacrosse teams for the kids in the community and every single team has the Blackhawk logo sewn onto different coloured sweaters. I also remember Everette Sanipass saying that the Mic Mac tribe across James Bay on the Eastern Side identified with the ‘proud Blackhawk logo’ , of course all it takes is one or two people to screech loud enough …..
- paulr


Not to get too political, but...My issue around the native american imagery debate is the people that are starting it. If the Native American community outwardly opposes the logo, then change it. The fact is that it's these priveleged white bumholes in Congress that are so concerned about this issue and not focused on other issues. Kinda like the guys in Congress trying to get to the bottom of Roger Clemens' steroid scandal. Who gives a flying (frank) about that...fix the issues we face as a country. Dumb.

I won't pretend to know what it's like to be a person of color and what comes with that. And I realize we live in a more politically correct world. There are some things that should be changed (Tomahawk Chop at braves games), but I think there are others that are lumped into that category unneccessarily
Cup-Bearer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:22 PM ET
I wonder if our new center has been under our noses the whole time. With 4.67 cap space 1.0-1.5 of that for a vet goalie we have LW locked up all but 1 RW filled (Smith or Morin 1.25 Bolig like number) We have 3 solid guys in the middle. I think TT will fill it but Rockford still has LEblanc, Danalt, Rasmussen we also have Nordstrum and Regin for choices. I think all of these guys are an upgrade to an aged Handzus. Brookbank is likely gone, Clendening takes that spot for .75
So as an insurance policy you have a tad over 1.1 million left for a vet center. There is not going to be a big name coming here. Our real question is who is our backup G? The rest of the team is solid enough for a cup
Ogilthorpe2
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Jun 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
Not to get too political, but...My issue around the native american imagery debate is the people that are starting it. If the Native American community outwardly opposes the logo, then change it. The fact is that it's these priveleged white bumholes in Congress that are so concerned about this issue and not focused on other issues. Kinda like the guys in Congress trying to get to the bottom of Roger Clemens' steroid scandal. Who gives a flying (frank) about that...fix the issues we face as a country. Dumb.

I won't pretend to know what it's like to be a person of color and what comes with that. And I realize we live in a more politically correct world. There are some things that should be changed (Tomahawk Chop at braves games), but I think there are others that are lumped into that category unneccessarily

- eburgio

Stop being so political
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
The Blackhawk Indianhead itself may not be an issue. My daughter teaches in a Native Community on the Western shore of James Bay, about 1,200 miles north of Toronto. The community has hockey and lacrosse teams for the kids in the community and every single team has the Blackhawk logo sewn onto different coloured sweaters. I also remember Everette Sanipass saying that the Mic Mac tribe across James Bay on the Eastern Side identified with the ‘proud Blackhawk logo’ , of course all it takes is one or two people to screech loud enough …..
- paulr



It's not just about the use of Native images or names, it's how they are used that's the key. There are many sports teams out there who's logo/name is derived from a certain culture/ethnic group. As long as it's done with dignity there shouldn't be an issue. From what I understand the Blackhawks have been involved with the Native community and have their support. Also, our logo is not offensive in any way, unlike the Cleveland Indians. Our name is not offensive either, unlike the Washington Redskins.

Anything is possible, one day we may have to change our logo but I certainly hope not. I think our name is safe though, I doubt that would have to be changed.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
find a way to trade him and bring back Brookbank for 750K. Would save about 1.5 on cap
- vabeachbear


I doubt Brookbank is taking a $500k pay cut to stay here.

Ogilthorpe2
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Jun 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
I wonder if our new center has been under our noses the whole time. With 4.67 cap space 1.0-1.5 of that for a vet goalie we have LW locked up all but 1 RW filled (Smith or Morin 1.25 Bolig like number) We have 3 solid guys in the middle. I think TT will fill it but Rockford still has LEblanc, Danalt, Rasmussen we also have Nordstrum and Regin for choices. I think all of these guys are an upgrade to an aged Handzus. Brookbank is likely gone, Clendening takes that spot for .75
So as an insurance policy you have a tad over 1.1 million left for a vet center. There is not going to be a big name coming here. Our real question is who is our backup G? The rest of the team is solid enough for a cup

- Cup-Bearer

Regin is gone.
Leblanc sucks.
Dannault's not ready.
Rasmussen is an unknown.
Brookbank, it was reported, might be back.
Clendening is not the top D prospect in RFD.

What else you got?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
Not being an aficionado of Sens Hockey, I've not seen Spezza play all that much except when he plays the Hawks, but it seems to me that Spezza and Hithcock would be like oil and water.
- Ogilthorpe2


And who wants to hang out with Oshie and Backes on purpose.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
Regin is gone.
Leblanc sucks.
Dannault's not ready.
Rasmussen is an unknown.
Brookbank, it was reported, might be back.
Clendening is not the top D prospect in RFD.

What else you got?

- Ogilthorpe2



Nielsen will be the next 2C!
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
The Blackhawk Indianhead itself may not be an issue. My daughter teaches in a Native Community on the Western shore of James Bay, about 1,200 miles north of Toronto. The community has hockey and lacrosse teams for the kids in the community and every single team has the Blackhawk logo sewn onto different coloured sweaters. I also remember Everette Sanipass saying that the Mic Mac tribe across James Bay on the Eastern Side identified with the ‘proud Blackhawk logo’ , of course all it takes is one or two people to screech loud enough …..
- paulr


If you are ever in New Brunswick in the spring where the Micmac First Nation Band resides you will see literally hundreds and hundreds of signs with the Indianhead prominently displayed and huge Go HAWKS GO messages.

And right beside those are plenty of "F$CK THE HABS" signs. The Chicago Blackhawks are closely followed in the Maritime provinces. The Indianhead on the jersey is sacred down there.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
Not to get too political, but...My issue around the native american imagery debate is the people that are starting it. If the Native American community outwardly opposes the logo, then change it. The fact is that it's these priveleged white a$$holes in Congress that are so concerned about this issue and not focused on other issues. Kinda like the guys in Congress trying to get to the bottom of Roger Clemens' steroid scandal. Who gives a flying phuck about that...fix the issues we face as a country. Dumb.

I won't pretend to know what it's like to be a person of color and what comes with that. And I realize we live in a more politically correct world. There are some things that should be changed (Tomahawk Chop at braves games), but I think there are others that are lumped into that category unneccessarily

- eburgio

I just wonder how many people actually know the real history behind their name.

This is a slippery slope. If the NFL franchise caves into this, each and every major league team will be faced with similar pressure.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
I wonder if our new center has been under our noses the whole time. With 4.67 cap space 1.0-1.5 of that for a vet goalie we have LW locked up all but 1 RW filled (Smith or Morin 1.25 Bolig like number) We have 3 solid guys in the middle. I think TT will fill it but Rockford still has LEblanc, Danalt, Rasmussen we also have Nordstrum and Regin for choices. I think all of these guys are an upgrade to an aged Handzus. Brookbank is likely gone, Clendening takes that spot for .75
So as an insurance policy you have a tad over 1.1 million left for a vet center. There is not going to be a big name coming here. Our real question is who is our backup G? The rest of the team is solid enough for a cup

- Cup-Bearer



I think we should move on Dominick Moore
He was great in NY and great on the PK

I like Reimer or Bradeur as the #2 Goalie

I still will not be surprised to see Sharp to Vancouver with a prospect for Kesler
I see the Kane Kessler connection as the reason why and at 5 million it's a great contract for what he brings


Ogilthorpe2
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Jun 18 @ 1:32 PM ET
I just wonder how many people actually know the real history behind their name.

This is a slippery slope. If the NFL franchise caves into this, each and every major league team will be faced with similar pressure.

- blackhawk24

Schneider should keep the name and change his logo to a big red potato...just for fun.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:33 PM ET
I think we should move on Dominick Moore
He was great in NY and great on the PK

I like Reimer or Bradeur as the #2 Goalie

I still will not be surprised to see Sharp to Vancouver with a prospect for Kesler
I see the Kane Kessler connection as the reason why and at 5 million it's a great contract for what he brings

- PEIHawkFan



Vancouver wouldn't do this, if they are rebuilding they have no use for Sharp. The Canucks will want top prospects and/or top picks. Plus, I doubt Sharp waives his NTC for Vancouver.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
Stop being so political
- Ogilthorpe2


Noted!
Ogilthorpe2
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Jun 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
I gotta jet, but I want to see three fresh, legit proposals out of you guys by close of business today. Get on it.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
Vancouver wouldn't do this, if they are rebuilding they have no use for Sharp. The Canucks will want top prospects and/or top picks. Plus, I doubt Sharp waives his NTC for Vancouver.
- DarthKane

If they plan to move Sharp, he will be given a couple of options. Just like Brian Campbell when the rumour came out that he was being traded to Columbus.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
I gotta jet, but I want to see three fresh, legit proposals out of you guys by close of business today. Get on it.
- Ogilthorpe2



YES SIR!!!
StLBravesFan
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Jun 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
I just wonder how many people actually know the real history behind their name.

This is a slippery slope. If the NFL franchise caves into this, each and every major league team will be faced with similar pressure.

- blackhawk24


They would certainly have a much better case if their nickname wasn't as historically offensive as N-word, or kike, or wop or something similar.
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