Brookbank really stepped up during Seabrook's suspension. I think there's a good chance he'll return if Rozsival is dealt. But I agree that Dahlbeck and Rundblad could rotate as the 6th D, or I wouldn't be surprised if Stan signed another free agent on a 1 year deal.
- DarthKane

I understand Stan acquired him, but did I miss something when Rundblah played? He looked weaker and more timid than Leddy, and he doesn't have his wheels to use as an excuse to keep him.

I could see Rundblah as a #7, nothing higher.

I'd prefer Sharp for Neilsen. That leaves enough cap room to add a depth C for the bottom 6.

Bickell Toews Hossa
Saad Neilsen Kane
Morin FNG Shaw
Bollig Krüger Smith
- Ogilthorpe2

I'd rather not trade Sharp, but I know you would. New York would have to sweeten the deal a bit.

I'd prefer Sharp for Neilsen. That leaves enough cap room to add a depth C for the bottom 6.

Bickell Toews Hossa
Saad Neilsen Kane
Morin FNG Shaw
Bollig Krüger Smith
- Ogilthorpe2

nice use of the umlaut

Question if anyone can answer it, since we have Versteeg at half salary, if the team was so inclined to buy him out would the buyout be calculated from what we pay or his original contracts salary? and if the latter do we pay the full amount or does florida spot half?

Out of the blue question but was wondering if anyone on here knew

I'd rather not trade Sharp, but I know you would. New York would have to sweeten the deal a bit.
- DarthKane

Throw in a pick or prospect...done.

Question if anyone can answer it, since we have Versteeg at half salary, if the team was so inclined to buy him out would the buyout be calculated from what we pay or his original contracts salary? and if the latter do we pay the full amount or does florida spot half?

Out of the blue question but was wondering if anyone on here knew
- the_dough_boy

I think we have used both of our buyouts--last summer right?

I think we have used both of our buyouts--last summer right?
- fourfeathers

Used both compliance buyouts...the kind that don't count against the cap. They are still able to do standard buyouts, but there are cap implications.

I think we have used both of our buyouts--last summer right?
- fourfeathers

he's asking about a regular buyout, not a compliance

he's asking about a regular buyout, not a compliance
- FourFeathers773

Looks like a cap hit of 1.2M for the first two years and 1.5 for the next two years, if they used an ordinary buyout.

Kris Versteeg is 28 years old on the buyout date of June 30, 2014, setting the buyout ratio at 2/3 and the total buyout cost at $6,266,667 spread over 4 years. His contract was originally valued at $17,600,000 beginning in 2012 and ending in 2016, with $9,400,000 remaining from the buyout year forward. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit indicates a credit.

Please note, although we show the ordinary-course buyout calculation below, he is also eligible for a compliance buyout (CBO) in 2014 where — if the team buying him out has not reached its quota of two CBOs — he can be bought out without any cap charges. This is because he entered into his contract on or before Sept. 15, 2012, as per Transition Rule 53 of the 2013 NHL-NHLPA CBA. The "buyout" column below shows the amount in actual cash the player would be paid by year in the event of a CBO.


Kris Versteeg buyout from CapGeek.com

◦2014-15: $1,266,667
◦2015-16: $1,266,667
◦2016-17: $1,566,667
◦2017-18: $1,566,667

Looks like a cap hit of 1.2M for the first two years and 1.5 for the next two years, if they used an ordinary buyout.
- eburgio

Not worth it.

Not worth it.
- Ogilthorpe2

Nope and highly unlikely.

Something interesting for all you TT fans out there: Was at the Chicago LockerRoom store this afternoon, and found that you can now purchase your #86 tee shirt jersey in the mainstream stores.

Anyone want to doubt that TT will be in the lineup for the big club next year?

BTW: Love the conversations about Kane on here. Not sure where I fall on the "he deserves a good 2C" vs the "he's selfish" argument, but I have had thoughts along both lines.

My biggest concerns are still the cap and the cup. How do we keep our talent so we can win a cup and still stay under the cap? Jettisoning Sharp and/or Leddy/Oduya can only do so much... And some of the names being bandied about on here come with BIG price tags. Will Stan be able to make the moves to get us both under cap and winning a cup? I think this is the big question.

It's going to be one heck of an off season.
- fourfeathers

They've probably been selling those shirts since his debut.

Looks like a cap hit of 1.2M for the first two years and 1.5 for the next two years, if they used an ordinary buyout.

Kris Versteeg is 28 years old on the buyout date of June 30, 2014, setting the buyout ratio at 2/3 and the total buyout cost at $6,266,667 spread over 4 years. His contract was originally valued at $17,600,000 beginning in 2012 and ending in 2016, with $9,400,000 remaining from the buyout year forward. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit indicates a credit.

Please note, although we show the ordinary-course buyout calculation below, he is also eligible for a compliance buyout (CBO) in 2014 where — if the team buying him out has not reached its quota of two CBOs — he can be bought out without any cap charges. This is because he entered into his contract on or before Sept. 15, 2012, as per Transition Rule 53 of the 2013 NHL-NHLPA CBA. The "buyout" column below shows the amount in actual cash the player would be paid by year in the event of a CBO.


Kris Versteeg buyout from CapGeek.com

◦2014-15: $1,266,667
◦2015-16: $1,266,667
◦2016-17: $1,566,667
◦2017-18: $1,566,667
- eburgio

Is there anything in the CBA about retained salary and buyouts?

They've probably been selling those shirts since his debut.
- Hawks82

I saw them at D!ck's the same week he made his debut.

Nope and highly unlikely.
- Al

Vertseeg may have stumbled during the last part of the season and playoff, but there is value is giving him another shot given his cap hit. If Versteeg turns things around then he will be a valuable part of a deep playoff run or two.

Looks like a cap hit of 1.2M for the first two years and 1.5 for the next two years, if they used an ordinary buyout.

Kris Versteeg is 28 years old on the buyout date of June 30, 2014, setting the buyout ratio at 2/3 and the total buyout cost at $6,266,667 spread over 4 years. His contract was originally valued at $17,600,000 beginning in 2012 and ending in 2016, with $9,400,000 remaining from the buyout year forward. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit indicates a credit.

Please note, although we show the ordinary-course buyout calculation below, he is also eligible for a compliance buyout (CBO) in 2014 where — if the team buying him out has not reached its quota of two CBOs — he can be bought out without any cap charges. This is because he entered into his contract on or before Sept. 15, 2012, as per Transition Rule 53 of the 2013 NHL-NHLPA CBA. The "buyout" column below shows the amount in actual cash the player would be paid by year in the event of a CBO.


Kris Versteeg buyout from CapGeek.com

◦2014-15: $1,266,667
◦2015-16: $1,266,667
◦2016-17: $1,566,667
◦2017-18: $1,566,667
- eburgio

Page 274, E - "In the event that a Retained Salary SPC is "bought out" or
terminated, the resulting obligations (both Averaged Amount and
Salary and Bonus) shall be divided as between the Clubs party to
the Retained Salary Transaction(s) for that SPC on the same
percentage basis as originally agreed upon in the Retained Salary
Transaction."

In other words, it would cost the Hawks this:
◦2014-15: $633,334
◦2015-16: $633,334
◦2016-17: $783,334
◦2017-18: $783,334

JJ - Your blog about Patrick Kane today is exactly on the money. If he doesn't get the center he thinks will get him a few individual awards, he will be looking elsewhere. Does he want a few more Stanley Cups to his name? Sure he does, but he already has two at the age of 25, a Conn Smythe and the Calder. A Hart or two and Art Ross would complete the package. Unless the Hawks secure that 2C, don't count on hearing his signing anything by the Convention.

Not worth it.
- Ogilthorpe2

Not when you have to replace him on the roster.

Best bet: hope he comes back to some semblance of the player he was - as I've said before, he's only 28.

Vertseeg may have stumbled during the last part of the season and playoff, but there is value is giving him another shot given his cap hit. If Versteeg turns things around then he will be a valuable part of a deep playoff run or two.
- DarthKane

I agree.

Lots of people saying that they don't buy the knee excuse because most of his problems appeared to be between his ears. Thing is, if he's not 100% physically, that can effect him mentally. If he's not completely confident he can trust his knee to hold up, then he's likely unable to completely concentrate mentally on just playing hockey.

Don't underestimate the symbiotic relationship between physical and mental aptitude.

JJ - Your blog about Patrick Kane today is exactly on the money. If he doesn't get the center he thinks will get him a few individual awards, he will be looking elsewhere. Does he want a few more Stanley Cups to his name? Sure he does, but he already has two at the age of 25, a Conn Smythe and the Calder. A Hart or two and Art Ross would complete the package. Unless the Hawks secure that 2C, don't count on hearing his signing anything by the Convention.
- Hawksnbears

How about a little "IMHO" (or even a "IMO") attached to that.

Unless, of course, you know him and have discussed it with him.

As long as there's a defensive presence, I think TT will flourish with just about any combo of guys in our Top 6. Plus, there's really no evidence to suggest Teuvo isn't a competent defensive player to begin with.

The best part about TT is that he'd probably force Q to reunite Toews with Kane...just as God intended in the beginning.
- HB_Stinks123

Sharp is being traded. Pay attention.

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- jimmc7722

Keep him. Send Strome instead. We will even take Bailey off your hands. You can have Leddy and Versteeg.

I'd prefer Sharp for Neilsen. That leaves enough cap room to add a depth C for the bottom 6.

Bickell Toews Hossa
Saad Neilsen Kane
Morin FNG Shaw
Bollig Krüger Smith
- Ogilthorpe2

Eh, I could live with Sharp for Neilsen only if the Isles are including Okposo.

Keep him. Send Strome instead. We will even take Bailey off your hands. You can have Leddy and Versteeg.
- Elbows15

Bailey over Neilsen? Check your temperature, you make be ill.

Edit: I'd take Strome though....he's from my home town.

Sharp is being traded. Pay attention.
- Elbows15

Draft day trade I'm betting on.