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SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
Not really sure why this isn't talked about more.

Saad - Toews - Kane

Hossa - TT - Sharp

Bickell - Krugs - Shaw

Smith - Outsider not here yet / Rockford guy- Bollig

It would seem to work money wise, not a bad line up especially if that 4th line C can be a good PK guy.

- vabeachbear


You are missing Versteeg, and you have to fit all that under the cap. I assume then you are trading Oduya on the back end?
Hawks82
Joined: 05.13.2012

Jun 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
I loved Marty....
- SteveRain


He was pretty good until Kronwall effectively ended his career.

I'll never forget that hit.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
He was pretty good until Kronwall effectively ended his career.

I'll never forget that hit.

- Hawks82


Yep....I screamed out in vain and pounded 3 beers in between periods. That was a crazy game...hawks blew a huge lead, Builn rips his nut sack, Huet plays well, Pahlsson behind the back to Sharp for the winner, and I thought they had a chance.

Then Hossa ran a train on them in game 4.

Damn Marty was good that year. Sure it had nothing to do with being a UFA at years end.....
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 53s
Doug MacLean on FAN 590 "I, for some reason, have a funny feeling that Phaneuf ends up in SJ"
MacLean "SJ is desperate to make some moves, I keep hearing Thornton could end up in NY & Dion will end up in SJ"

- FourFeathers773

Why in the world would anyone take on the joke of a contract the leafs gave Phanuef, doesn't make any sense.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
Why in the world would anyone take on the joke of a contract the leafs gave Phanuef, doesn't make any sense.
- vabeachbear


Because Tallon only has two D men locked up, one of which is Jovanovski. He has five free agent D men due contracts for next season. Might just be looking for some stability on the blue line.
InvisibleOrange
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Shermer, IL
Joined: 08.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
Why in the world would anyone take on the joke of a contract the leafs gave Phanuef, doesn't make any sense.
- vabeachbear


I learned today that he might be the most underrated player in the league.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
You are missing Versteeg, and you have to fit all that under the cap. I assume then you are trading Oduya on the back end?
- SteveRain

Why would salary be an issue, no one except TT in who isn't on the team already.

TT makes less or about the same as Handzus. New 4th liner shouldn't be more than Brookbank made. Bollig's going to make more but isn't the cap going up some next year?

Personally I'd put Versteeg in the press box, or play him instead of Bollig.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
You know what really pissed me off to no end?

When Leino either got selected as rookie of the year or was at least in the running for it when he got traded to Philly.

I was so mad, because i had seen him play a bunch of games for the Redwings prior to that, and he was like 28 or something crazy. (frank) Leino and the Redwings.

And philly too haha (philly isnt so bad, I just get angry when i think about this for some reason)

EDIT: now that i think about it, he might have just been getting some paise about being a high scoring rookie in the playoffs (not rookie of the year). But still the guy was almost 30 or something AND he had played in the playoffs with the Redwings before. I could be wrong

- BlazinMike

Yeah I remember that, too during the philly series. Doc Emerick kept saying about the highest scoring rookie during the playoffs. Yeah he was at least 26 maybe 28 at the time
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 17 @ 4:55 PM ET
Because Tallon only has two D men locked up, one of which is Jovanovski. He has five free agent D men due contracts for next season. Might just be looking for some stability on the blue line.
- Return of the Roar

Are you forgetting Dylan Olsen
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
Why would salary be an issue, no one except TT in who isn't on the team already.

TT makes less or about the same as Handzus. New 4th liner shouldn't be more than Brookbank made. Bollig's going to make more but isn't the cap going up some next year?

Personally I'd put Versteeg in the press box, or play him instead of Bollig.

- vabeachbear


You only have about 4 million cap space to resign Smith, Morin, add in Teuvo's deal, sign a back up goalie AND add a veteran center.

Not a lot of room.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
He was pretty good until Kronwall effectively ended his career.

I'll never forget that hit.

- Hawks82


He's a walking injury list. I think he blew out an achilles jumping off the bench. That has nothing to do with Kronwall.

He got his pay day...and he has continually tailed off since
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
You only have about 4 million cap space to resign Smith, Morin, add in Teuvo's deal, sign a back up goalie AND add a veteran center.

Not a lot of room.

- SteveRain



My guess is that Stan makes some moves to free up cap space. I think Rozsival will be moved at the draft, maybe Morin too.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 53s
Doug MacLean on FAN 590 "I, for some reason, have a funny feeling that Phaneuf ends up in SJ"
MacLean "SJ is desperate to make some moves, I keep hearing Thornton could end up in NY & Dion will end up in SJ"

- FourFeathers773


It would be like Toronto to dump Phaneuf after paying him like he was a cornerstone of the franchise.

As far a Thornton....I hear the same.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
You only have about 4 million cap space to resign Smith, Morin, add in Teuvo's deal, sign a back up goalie AND add a veteran center.

Not a lot of room.

- SteveRain

ya 4.67 but true it isn't a ton. I'm not big on trading Oduya, but I wouldn't mind Rosy and Rundblah gone, that would free up 3 mill additional. You could get brookbank back cheaper and Dahlbeck should be cheap.

Not saying they shouldn't go out and get a top Center, but mostly making a point about Kane getting to play with a real C and TT being somewhat protected with Sharp and Hossa.

I'm also trying to be real about the dollars and the cap.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:11 PM ET
It would be like Toronto to dump Phaneuf after paying him like he was a cornerstone of the franchise.

As far a Thornton....I hear the same.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al

Not to mention making him Captain and the face of the franchise!

I'm sure Shanny will fix this like he did with the cheap shots in the league
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:12 PM ET
ya 4.67 but true it isn't a ton. I'm not big on trading Oduya, but I wouldn't mind Rosy and Rundblah gone, that would free up 3 mill additional. You could get brookbank back cheaper and Dahlbeck should be cheap.

Not saying they shouldn't go out and get a top Center, but mostly making a point about Kane getting to play with a real C and TT being somewhat protected with Sharp and Hossa.

I'm also trying to be real about the dollars and the cap.

- vabeachbear



Rundblad isn't going anywhere, Stan just acquired him. Rozy will likely go however.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 17 @ 5:15 PM ET
Upon closer review though, his issues are more cerebral than orthopedic. Can't blame bad passes and turnovers in the offensive zone on the knee. If you can trade him you trade him. I'm not a Zawaski fan, nor as insistent about Versteeg as he is, but I just think the team would have been better off with the next best option at the time, Morin, playing for him.
- Return of the Roar


For $2 million Versteeg isn't a huge issue...He could be traded if all else fails.

If his mobility was limited it's hard to say what total affect that had on his game.

He seemed to press and the Hawks really didn't have a 4th line for most of the playoffs and that wasn't all on Versteeg.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:17 PM ET
Rundblad isn't going anywhere, Stan just acquired him. Rozy will likely go however.
- DarthKane


That tweet earlier about Brookbank perhaps coming back is interesting. The 6/7 figure to be Brookbank, Rundblad and Dahlbeck. That is one too many, unless Dahlbeck rides the Rockford Express every time he doesn't play. Smells to me that Leddy or Oduya are gone; Brookbank, Dahlbeck and Rundblad are 5/6/7.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:20 PM ET
That tweet earlier about Brookbank perhaps coming back is interesting. The 6/7 figure to be Brookbank, Rundblad and Dahlbeck. That is one too many, unless Dahlbeck rides the Rockford Express every time he doesn't play. Smells to me that Leddy or Oduya are gone; Brookbank, Dahlbeck and Rundblad are 5/6/7.
- mohel

Leddy for Nielsen
fourfeathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Catch you on the fly
Joined: 04.25.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
Something interesting for all you TT fans out there: Was at the Chicago LockerRoom store this afternoon, and found that you can now purchase your #86 tee shirt jersey in the mainstream stores.

Anyone want to doubt that TT will be in the lineup for the big club next year?

BTW: Love the conversations about Kane on here. Not sure where I fall on the "he deserves a good 2C" vs the "he's selfish" argument, but I have had thoughts along both lines.

My biggest concerns are still the cap and the cup. How do we keep our talent so we can win a cup and still stay under the cap? Jettisoning Sharp and/or Leddy/Oduya can only do so much... And some of the names being bandied about on here come with BIG price tags. Will Stan be able to make the moves to get us both under cap and winning a cup? I think this is the big question.

It's going to be one heck of an off season.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:23 PM ET
That tweet earlier about Brookbank perhaps coming back is interesting. The 6/7 figure to be Brookbank, Rundblad and Dahlbeck. That is one too many, unless Dahlbeck rides the Rockford Express every time he doesn't play. Smells to me that Leddy or Oduya are gone; Brookbank, Dahlbeck and Rundblad are 5/6/7.
- mohel


Brookbank really stepped up during Seabrook's suspension. I think there's a good chance he'll return if Rozsival is dealt. But I agree that Dahlbeck and Rundblad coudl rotate as the 6th D, or I wouldn't be surprised if Stan signed another free agent on a 1 year deal.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:25 PM ET
Leddy for Nielsen
- UnnamedSource



Done and Done.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:32 PM ET
Wilson has already told Havlat he's not returning to San Jose next season. The Sharks have both their Compliance Buyouts and I doubt he'll find a trading partner to take Havlat. Marty will be bought out but he'll find employment somewhere.
- DarthKane

The KHL is expanding. Marty will meet their criteria of playing at least 5 games a season before going on IR.
Topshelf2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
Yep....I screamed out in vain and pounded 3 beers in between periods. That was a crazy game...hawks blew a huge lead, Builn rips his nut sack, Huet plays well, Pahlsson behind the back to Sharp for the winner, and I thought they had a chance.

Then Hossa ran a train on them in game 4.

Damn Marty was good that year. Sure it had nothing to do with being a UFA at years end.....

- SteveRain

besides the UFA, he was playing with more confidence and a man possessed as he seemed to be a little hesitant after shoulder surgery. Which messed up the previous season.
That line was fun to watch.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
Done and Done.
- DarthKane

I'd prefer Sharp for Neilsen. That leaves enough cap room to add a depth C for the bottom 6.

Bickell Toews Hossa
Saad Neilsen Kane
Morin FNG Shaw
Bollig Krüger Smith
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