It's one thing for a great team to make and offer sheet and potentially give up 3-4 1st round picks to get a player. But if Calgary does it, they are possibly giving up 3-4 top 5 picks to get him.
BIG DIFFERENCE

He took 1 penalty all year.

And had 60+ points.

You are incorrect.
- njdevils350

Led the league in Takeaways. 83 takeaways to 33 giveaways. Not a bad years work for a 2way player

Who cares he's not even that good.
- Mr_Smokey

Based on all of your other assessments and obvious lack of hockey knowledge I think I'll just ignore your dumbass posts from now on....

If the salary cap is $100M in year 6, guys making $8.4 will not be worth anywhere near the draft pick compensation. Basically renders the process useless.

Rates are good for next year, will go up with league salaries thereafter.
- Tumbleweed

Cap can also go down or stay the same. That can screw a team over. Nothing is sayign the Cap will continuelly rise every season. Its all about League Revenue,

Led the league in Takeaways. 83 takeaways to 33 giveaways
- DDM-Coga

Honestly, I don't understand it. If it were me I'd just buyout Parenteau and maybe Tanguay (if you're really worried about cap space down the road) and get him signed.

He's the kind of player I'm sure people will start to appreciate once he's gone.

Honestly, I don't understand it. If it were me, I'd just buyout Parenteau and maybe Tanguay (if you're really worried about cap space down the road) and get him signed.

He's the kind of player I'm sure people will start to appreciate once he's gone.
- njdevils350

Avs are shopping PAP according to McKenzie...that doesnt surprise me at all. And have 2.5m in healthy scratch Ryan Wilson. They will move that money around. They will keep Tangs, he has good value as long as he stays healthy

2nd contract squabble with a player who will be a UFA in 2 years?

Watch him walk after the arbitrator awarded 2 years contract.

2nd contract squabble with a player who will be a UFA in 2 years?

Watch him walk after the arbitrator awarded 2 years contract.
- StargateSG1

The sides havent even began talking yet, there isnt a second squabble. Both sides agreed to pick up talks this summer, Avs filed their rights as a safety net just in case since yesterday was the deadline for that. Sides are not fighting so Get the facts straight.

Cap can also go down or stay the same. That can screw a team over. Nothing is sayign the Cap will continuelly rise every season. Its all about League Revenue,
- DDM-Coga

true, up or down. The CBA was worded to be fluid and have fair compensation as the cap moves.

Sounds like big uptick coming if they account for the new Canadian TV deal this upcoming year.

The sides havent even began talking yet, there isnt a second squabble. Both sides agreed to pick up talks this summer, Avs filed their rights as a safety net just in case since yesterday was the deadline for that. Sides are not fighting so Get the facts straight.
- DDM-Coga

I just read today that Avs view ROR as a 5 million player.

Avs are shopping PAP according to McKenzie...that doesnt surprise me at all. And have 2.5m in healthy scratch Ryan Wilson. They will move that money around. They will keep Tangs, he has good value as long as he stays healthy
- DDM-Coga

Figured as much, looking at how their deals are spread out I really don't see much reason why they can't get O'Reilly, and MacKinnon signed for the next 7-10 years and have a core group in place. MacKinnon's entry level deal actually ends the same year as Tanguay's deal. So you're right, probably no need to buy him out.

Figured as much, looking at how their deals are spread out I really don't see much reason why they can't get O'Reilly, and MacKinnon signed for the next 7-10 years and have a core group in place. MacKinnon's entry level deal actually ends the same year as Tanguay's deal. So you're right, probably no need to buy him out.
- njdevils350

The 2.5m in Wislon, 4m in PAP, and 6.6m in Stastny. They can spread out 13m bw ROR and Stastny and not be adding on anymore Cap Space. Give them both 6m and they still come out ahead in my mind.

I just read today that Avs view ROR as a 5 million player.
- StargateSG1

you mean the 1 Dater tweet from last night that he was sort of Ranting having to tweet about it since hes on vacation?

You follow dater, hes the most knowledgeable but also most pessimistic guy regarding the Avs. No on really knows how the Avs value ROR, the only thing we know is that Roy loves him from talking about him non stop all season long. I wouldnt read much into Daters tweet

Why exactly are you hesitant to put miller anyways? It's gonna be a load of horsepoop anyways.

July 1st-July 5th he can be offersheeted. To make it anythign that the Avs wont match, you would have to be in this neighbourhood for compensation

Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd.

Bc The Avs filed team arbitration doesnt mean much, just gives them more power in their negotiations. Since it limits the offersheet window as well as stops him from being a summer/trainign camp hold out. Just business and a safety net if things go sideways with him.
- DDM-Coga

That is a lot to give up for RoR. It is definitely worth it if you make the conference finals both years and most likely worth it as long as you make the playoffs but without that guarantee it will be tough for Calgary, Toronto, or Carolina to give up those picks.

As a gamble I would be open to offering RoR less than $6.725M per year so that all you give up is a single 1st depending if the team doing it truly believes they will be a playoff team.

It would be very tough for Colorado to match if they re-sign Stastny, could get this young stud for cheap.

Maybe someone can convince him to sign a one year $6.725M contract with a $6 signing bonus then if Colorado doesn't match he immediately signs an extension worth $5.75M per year. Lock him up long term at a great deal and give him huge cash up front. You can front load the extension too to balance the drop.

What do the Leafs, Canes, & Flames fans think?

Oh I had no idea about the 1 penalty, you're right!

- Mr_Smokey

plays 1st line on the 3rd best team in the league through 82 games. ya he's poop

That is a lot to give up for RoR. It is definitely worth it if you make the conference finals both years and most likely worth it as long as you make the playoffs but without that guarantee it will be tough for Calgary, Toronto, or Carolina to give up those picks.

As a gamble I would be open to offering RoR less than $6.725M per year so that all you give up is a single 1st depending if the team doing it truly believes they will be a playoff team.

It would be very tough for Colorado to match if they re-sign Stastny, could get this young stud for cheap.

Maybe someone can convince him to sign a one year $6.725M contract with a $6 signing bonus then if Colorado doesn't match he immediately signs an extension worth $5.75M per year. Lock him up long term at a great deal and give him huge cash up front. You can front load the extension too to balance the drop.

What do the Leafs, Canes, & Flames fans think?
- Steven_Dean

why would RoR ever do this? not like he's aching to get out of Colorado - they're going to be good for a long time. He just wants to get paid for long term. It's the exact opposite of what he wants.

you mean the 1 Dater tweet from last night that he was sort of Ranting having to tweet about it since hes on vacation?

You follow dater, hes the most knowledgeable but also most pessimistic guy regarding the Avs. No on really knows how the Avs value ROR, the only thing we know is that Roy loves him from talking about him non stop all season long. I wouldnt read much into Daters tweet
- DDM-Coga

-Would you read something into McKenzie?

- If the club takes O'Reilly to arbitration, the arbiter will award O'Reilly a choice of 1 or 2 year contracts. After that, he will be a UFA and you can bet your ass that after 2 embittered contract battles he will be looooooong gone.

-Would you read something into McKenzie?

- If the club takes O'Reilly to arbitration, the arbiter will award O'Reilly a choice of 1 or 2 year contracts. After that, he will be a UFA and you can bet your ass that after 2 embittered contract battles he will be looooooong gone.
- StargateSG1

No not really, bc if McKenzie tweeted it, he probably got it from Dater. They are tweeter buddies. Avs have been a very tight lipped organization from the get go bc of Lacroix. Its very rare to get any true insder information out of them. Like the Johnson and Varly trades, they came out of no where. No one had any idea they were shopping.

They are working on signing him long term, they havent started or broken off contract talks, so the 1-2 year RFA/UFA status is a mute point at the moment. Until it goes to a hearing, its nothign to worry about. Avs want him long term, ROR has said he wants to be long term but paid farily. They will find the middle ground.

One of the first things Roy and Sakic said and did when they took over was look into the last round of talks with ROR. Roy came out and said its a fresh slate bw them. That was the old management ways of doign thing, and is in the past.

That is a lot to give up for RoR. It is definitely worth it if you make the conference finals both years and most likely worth it as long as you make the playoffs but without that guarantee it will be tough for Calgary, Toronto, or Carolina to give up those picks.

As a gamble I would be open to offering RoR less than $6.725M per year so that all you give up is a single 1st depending if the team doing it truly believes they will be a playoff team.

It would be very tough for Colorado to match if they re-sign Stastny, could get this young stud for cheap.

Maybe someone can convince him to sign a one year $6.725M contract with a $6 signing bonus then if Colorado doesn't match he immediately signs an extension worth $5.75M per year. Lock him up long term at a great deal and give him huge cash up front. You can front load the extension too to balance the drop.

What do the Leafs, Canes, & Flames fans think?
- Steven_Dean

This make Zero sense....

Brad Richards is bought out from New York...saw that coming

Brad Richards is bought out from New York...saw that coming

In my opinion if i was colorado i would do whatever it took with in reason to resign this guy he may not put a ton of points up but hes a great 2 way hockey player and i think only gonna get better as he gets older players of his kind are very hard to find

As a gamble I would be open to offering RoR less than $6.725M per year so that all you give up is a single 1st depending if the team doing it truly believes they will be a playoff team.
- Steven_Dean

Apparently its not that simple. Dave Pagnotta at the 4th period said last night that the new CBA has a provision that the total value of 6 and 7 year offer sheet deals are divided by 5 years when determining the draft pick compensation, just not the cap hit. Basically anything over $33.625M, regardless of years, will put him in that bracket. Anything lower and COL is matching immediately.

Nothing on the Rome buyout, I thought that would be worthy if it's own article.