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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:28 AM ET
i dont really like him, but man did he come up with some huge shot blocks/clears this postseason.
- stayinthefnnet


Check your PMs.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:28 AM ET
Whether or not he "should" win the Hart, he won't.
- jmatchett383

I agree. No Flyers player is ever going to get a sniff at that trophy.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:29 AM ET
You'd better pray that he drops AND that the Flyers pick him. With your luck he'd drop and we'd choose someone else!

- FlyersGrace



Olli Maatta 2014
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 16 @ 11:29 AM ET
You'd better pray that he drops AND that the Flyers pick him. With your luck he'd drop and we'd choose someone else!

- FlyersGrace



I mean the hockey gods weren't that nice when they gave Chacago Kane. I am hoping since the draft is in PHilly they say "40 years? Guess we should throw them a bone"
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:30 AM ET
And look how well that turned out! I also don't think they drafted him.
- FlyersGrace

no, they didnt.

and i think that falls more on the player than the organization. he had talent, and was given a legitimate chance. it was just meh.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
He, Dorsett, and Carcillo are the 3 Rangers I hate the most.
- jmatchett383

ah yeah. dorsett. that guy i hate.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 16 @ 11:32 AM ET
FWIW:

•David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Staple’s looks at Mark Spector’s suggestion that the Oilers could look at trading for Braydon Coburn again. The Flyers have $27 million committed to six defenseman next season, with $4.5 million going to Coburn (two years left). Staples wonders if the Oilers would offer Martin Marincin or Oscar Klefbom for Coburn. Would the Oilers offer to take on Vincent Lecavalier in a deal?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
I hate PK Subban but would love the Flyers to get him. I could care less as long as they can help the team. I am a Flyers fan not a "insert name" fan.
- J35Bacher


PK Subban is an elite superstar talent with small immaturity issues. Brian Boyle is a gutless coward who plays on the 4th line. There's a difference.
PhiFaninEdm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 11.21.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
I keep going back to the Hextall presser when he said he likes young players and draft picks. I can see a couple scenarios:

- Trade down to acquire additional picks based on organizational player ranking
- Make the pick if one of their players is at 17

If what Hextall said is true, I expect less of the win now moves and more future based strategy.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
Great blog and great insight into more prospects. There seems to be a lot of interesting guys that could be available at 17. I'd actually be an advocate of trading down and acquiring more picks.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:34 AM ET
FWIW:

•David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Staple’s looks at Mark Spector’s suggestion that the Oilers could look at trading for Braydon Coburn again. The Flyers have $27 million committed to six defenseman next season, with $4.5 million going to Coburn (two years left). Staples wonders if the Oilers would offer Martin Marincin or Oscar Klefbom for Coburn. Would the Oilers offer to take on Vincent Lecavalier in a deal?

- J35Bacher


I'll gladly take Justin Schultz and Jordan Eberle for Coburn and Lecavalier. No? Then no thanks.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:34 AM ET
And look how well that turned out! I also don't think they drafted him.
- FlyersGrace

They didn't. Columbus
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:34 AM ET
PK Subban is an elite superstar talent with small immaturity issues. Brian Boyle is a gutless coward who plays on the 4th line. There's a difference.
- jmatchett383


But not including all the stupid bull poop that you don't like about Boyle. He would be a solid upgrade to our fourth line, based on his hockey skills.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
From WPG Blog:

I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.

— Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) June 16, 2014


So would you include Coburn and Schenn to WPG for Bogosian and maybe pick?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
I agree. No Flyers player is ever going to get a sniff at that trophy.
- FlyersGrace

Clarke (3) and Lindros
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:36 AM ET
But not including all the stupid bull poop that you don't like about Boyle. He would be a solid upgrade to our fourth line, based on his hockey skills.
- FlyersSteve118


Yes, he'd be a solid upgrade. That said, much like Billy Tibbetts and Ulf Samuelsson, I refuse to root for some players even if they're on the team. You can add Jesse Boulerice to that, too.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:36 AM ET
From WPG Blog:

I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.

— Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) June 16, 2014


So would you include Coburn and Schenn to WPG for Bogosian and maybe pick?

- J35Bacher


Why trade two pieces for one piece when the guy we are getting back is just as good as one of the guys we are sending? I would actually prefer Coburn over Bogosian.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:36 AM ET
FWIW:

•David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Staple’s looks at Mark Spector’s suggestion that the Oilers could look at trading for Braydon Coburn again. The Flyers have $27 million committed to six defenseman next season, with $4.5 million going to Coburn (two years left). Staples wonders if the Oilers would offer Martin Marincin or Oscar Klefbom for Coburn. Would the Oilers offer to take on Vincent Lecavalier in a deal?

- J35Bacher



Marincin is already a hell of a player... I'd think hard about that one.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:37 AM ET
Why trade two pieces for one piece when the guy we are getting back is just as good as one of the guys we are sending? I would actually prefer Coburn over Bogosian.
- FlyersSteve118


Agreed. Bogosian has really fallen off. Now, if it were Trouba...
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:37 AM ET

I don't think Hextall wants to be tarred and feathered at his first draft.

- FlyersGrace

Never really thought about it until reading a current novel set during the American Revolution. But people died of being tarred and feathered. The tar causes third degree burns wherever it lands. It seems in popular culture we've made it a funny thing. But it was deadly serious at the time.

Back to hockey.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
Marincin is already a hell of a player... I'd think hard about that one.
- Tomahawk


Was it his 6 assists in 44 NHL games that blew you away, or his 7 points in 24 AHL games last year?
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
Yes, he'd be a solid upgrade. That said, much like Billy Tibbetts and Ulf Samuelsson, I refuse to root for some players even if they're on the team. You can add Jesse Boulerice to that, too.
- jmatchett383


I just care about the cup. B. Boyle would make us a better team and that's all there is to it.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
Whether or not he "should" win the Hart, he won't.
- jmatchett383

I think the slow start really hurts him. Some people voting will say "he couldn't even make the Canadian Olympic team," too.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
I just care about the cup. B. Boyle would make us a better team and that's all there is to it.
- FlyersSteve118


I don't want his name engraved into the Cup. Ever.
PhiFaninEdm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 11.21.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
FWIW:

•David Staples of the Edmonton Journal: Staple’s looks at Mark Spector’s suggestion that the Oilers could look at trading for Braydon Coburn again. The Flyers have $27 million committed to six defenseman next season, with $4.5 million going to Coburn (two years left). Staples wonders if the Oilers would offer Martin Marincin or Oscar Klefbom for Coburn. Would the Oilers offer to take on Vincent Lecavalier in a deal?

- J35Bacher


Marincin had a good season in 40+ games with them last season and Klefbom was considered an untouchable at one point.
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