StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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I hope he gets paid. - UnnamedSource
15 goals 42 points in 81 games - 16 minutes per game (3rd line minutes?) - how much can he get? |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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I would trade sharp for Schenn+. Don't know if sharp fills a need there. Schenn definitely fits a need here, though. Besides the JVR-kadri package that won't happen, I wouldn't mind Sharp to Columbus for Anisimov and either their 1st or add a little something to get Kerby Reichel. He is going to be a good one - tomcat24
Why would the Hawks have to add anything to Sharp TC? The guy is a 1st line winger on just about every team in the league. |
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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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15 goals 42 points in 81 games - 16 minutes per game (3rd line minutes?) - how much can he get? - StLBravesFan
He was getting top 6 minutes at the end of the season. I would expect Frolik to get between $3-$4 million per season for 3-4 years. While I understand that he had to go it still sucks that Frolik left. He's an underrated forward and can bring a lot to a team. He can be a 20 goal, 40 assist guy and play on both special team units. He just didn't have a place on our team, especially at $4 million. |
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Morganskaner88
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 03.26.2013
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All these rumors are fun, and I enjoy all the proposed deals here especially anything with JVR+. That said in looking at UFA centers why do I have the feeling we are shopping at centers r us and getting Colin Fraser or Jake Dowell type guys? 500k types who are centers by definition but not really answers to any question other than who comprise the bottom half of the least deep 4 centers on an nhl roster? |
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mventres
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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Nice update, JJ. Thanks for everything.
It looks as if Benning has been infected with whatever Gillis carried. To ask for a PACKAGE including Saad for a 30 year old with recent injury issues and 2 years from UFA status.
Kesler is not worth Saad straight up. Not after this playoff and his last 2 years.
Maybe a TT package makes sense because he has not proven himself in the NHL but Saad is a proven commodity. Good to know that management recognizes this as a non starter.
Let Bob Murray overpay with Smith Pellie and a package. He can seed the Nucks future. Kesler on the Ducks should make for a very serious physical battle to get out of the Pacific for the new Kings "dynasty" being touted.
They will need every call McCauley and OHalloran can give them to make it there next year - as they did this year. - tredbrta
Agreed. Best they get from CHI is Sharp.
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Sutter Neal puloit and a first Kesler - Palmer117
Sounds like a deal to me. However, not a Canuck thread. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Dahlbeck sounds like the second coming of Hjalmarsson. Leddy playing next to Hammer may stabilize him. Then you sign at least one vet d-man for the 3rd pairing. - ikeane
Not the second coming of Hammer. Plays a similar game. |
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ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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Not the second coming of Hammer. Plays a similar game. - Elbows15
Thanks for the assist. Similar game is what the Hawks need IMO |
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Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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Looking at most of those drafts is like getting water boarded.
Players get moved here because they are overpaid or a cheaper replacement can be found...at least in theory. If you believe the Hawks will tie up $4-$5 million per year in #4 and #5 dmen over the next 4 years there is no reason to speculate on an Oduya and Leddy deal.
I don't believe they will both be here in 2 years... - Al
Al you don't believe a team, in this case the Hawks, can carry a top 4 D rotation with the #4 Dman making 4 or just over 4 million?
If not the template would be to have a 1st rate top 3 and shuttle guys in and out of the bottom 3 over the years as they reach free agency eligibility, and/or until your top 3 come off the books replaced by another top 3, and so on and so on?
I asked after the purge after the 1st cup, can a franchise play a puck possession system in a cap world? It takes skill to do so and skill is expensive and tough to keep together under a cap.
Now the Kings play a much more north-south slower pace style (in this case cheaper) and have won a couple cups too and will bring back nearly all those players with little cap worries with a helluva shot at another cup next year. In fact they can bring back a cup team next year with a 5 million dollar 4th line center!
Do you see the possibility that the cap will dictate the style of play a team can be constructed under or what kind of system can be played? |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Thanks for the assist. Similar game is what the Hawks need IMO - ikeane
From the limited viewings I have of Dahlbeck, he is the typical defensive version Swede. Solid positioning. Understands angles. Can be physical if needed. Uses his stick well. Has good feet. |
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tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL Joined: 06.04.2012
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Why would the Hawks have to add anything to Sharp TC? The guy is a 1st line winger on just about every team in the league. - Elbows15
Mainly the age difference. Damn I'm fine with sharp for anisimov and reichel and our team's flipping 1sts. It is funny to see how columbus fans feel on other boards. They like sharp but not for Anisimov alone let alone adding a prospect. |
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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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From the limited viewings I have of Dahlbeck, he is the typical defensive version Swede. Solid positioning. Understands angles. Can be physical if needed. Uses his stick well. Has good feet. - Elbows15
...and has no problem with laying down too block a shot. |
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tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL Joined: 06.04.2012
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All these rumors are fun, and I enjoy all the proposed deals here especially anything with JVR+. That said in looking at UFA centers why do I have the feeling we are shopping at centers r us and getting Colin Fraser or Jake Dowell type guys? 500k types who are centers by definition but not really answers to any question other than who comprise the bottom half of the least deep 4 centers on an nhl roster? - Morganskaner88
Yeah I wouldn't doubt that happens in the least. I do have a feeling he might trade one of our roster players soon, like sharp or leddy. But I wouldn't be surprised with only a 4th liner coming here |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Mainly the age difference. Damn I'm fine with sharp for anisimov and reichel and our team's flipping 1sts. It is funny to see how columbus fans feel on other boards. They like sharp but not for Anisimov alone let alone adding a prospect. - tomcat24
They're idiots then. Sharp would be their best winger. Horton is the only one close and let me know the next time he plays close to a full season. Ansimov is a 3rd line center with limited skating ability. Isn't great on FO and is a 35 points a year guy. |
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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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They're idiots then. Sharp would be their best winger. Horton is the only one close and let me know the next time he plays close to a full season. Ansimov is a 3rd line center with limited skating ability. Isn't great on FO and is a 35 points a year guy. - Elbows15
Isn't the knock on him consistency and commitment issues? |
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Sorry bud, no one on that team is worth Saad straight up. - blackhawk24
Must be the next coming of Gretzky |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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...and has no problem with laying down too block a shot. - EKolb13
I didn't want to sound like I wanted to marry the guy. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Must be the next coming of Gretzky - VANTEL
He's no Gaunce that is for sure. |
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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Isn't the knock on him consistency and commitment issues? - EKolb13
He has a certain charmin quality to him. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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I know you're holding out for Teuvo... - EKolb13
Speaking of soft. |
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He's no Gaunce that is for sure. - Elbows15
No he certainly isn't. He is in a mega world by himself according to you guys |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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No he certainly isn't. He is in a mega world by himself according to you guys - VANTEL
We don't have to take into account the stench of failure on Kesler. It decreases his value. |
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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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No he certainly isn't. He is in a mega world by himself according to you guys - VANTEL
I don't think it's that. It's more of the question of why trade away a guy who could be a very good top 6 power forward for the next decade in Chicago? Especially when he's going to be very affordable for the next 3-4 seasons. |
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tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL Joined: 06.04.2012
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Isn't the knock on him consistency and commitment issues? - EKolb13
Don't know about the commitment stuff, but he did have consistency issues. He was a lot more consistent this year, I thought. I'm sure with the talent here he will get a lot more than just 35 points |
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