mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Not picking either, because Stan wouldn't do it. - BearsnHawks
Probably right. Was just answering the posters question |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Rozy has to be through here, he was even worse than Leddy by the end of the season. IMO if all they do is move Rozy and Versteeg and sign a vet to cycle in with Dahlstrom/Rundblad as 6th/7th/8th, that wouldn't be a horrible offseason. A #2 center would be great, but it doesn't make a lot of sense IMO to deal an almost PPG winger in Sharp for any of the .5 PPG centers mentioned. I'm not sure any of those moves actually make the Hawks better, kind of treading water more at best. It seems like every center name I've read connected to the Hawks are either former stars in rapid decline or really #3 centers. The few young guys that sound promising are far less likely to actually be moved. I'm against trading Oduya unless he's replaced with a sound defensive veteran. I'd much rather trade Leddy, who should have a higher trade value for some teams as he is younger, currently cheaper, and still under team control in a year as an RFA. - Hemingways
They (frank)ing gave Rosy a.NMC |
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CBHawks88
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Location: Pallie Joined: 07.05.2012
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Hmm. He played the system fine for Canada. The whole Sharp doesn't play defense is BS. imo. - Elbows15
I was not impressed with Sharp at the Olympics, or the 2nd half of the NHL season... Offensively, or defensively. Just calling it how I see it. I don't see another reason why Q would keep him on wing and off the PK. |
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kissthecup22
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Location: The Meeting Of The Waters, IL Joined: 07.16.2010
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Glad to see that reason still rules at 1901 W. Madison. There is no way that I would include Saad in this deal or any other. Seebrook and Hammer need to be on this list too for us to have a chance for further cups.
Will miss Oduya but there is no way that we will be able to resign him next July with all of the other players that need to be resigned so we need to move him while we can get something back.
Bowman said a couple of years ago that the plan was to identify the core players and then bring along 2-3 new players each year to infuse new blood at lower cap hits. |
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kissthecup22
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Location: The Meeting Of The Waters, IL Joined: 07.16.2010
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- DDM-Coga
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BearsnHawks
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Location: TX Joined: 07.01.2012
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Is it a concern of Bowman how LA Kings in particular exposed chg weaknesses? JJ hints that a new #2 center will be in the lineup. Veteran or a better, highly offensive capable center might blow into the Windy City. You say no. Not a slam dunk guarantee no on this as has been the case as for legitimate #2 center acquisition for several years. - jhawk59
Yep, Handzus will not be back (new #2 center). I think the Hawks would beat the Kings if that Saad/Kane/Shaw line were in place at the beginning of the series. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Then the Hawks won't get Kesler. Why do Hawks need to win in next 2-3 years? Our bext players are 26 and 26. Top defensemen are in their 20's (besides Keith who is 30). The Hawks are built to win now and for the next 5-10 years. Our players to replace Sharp and Hossa are TT and Saad. That is why you are not getting them. - BearsnHawks
It will not be easy for any of the teams reportedly in the running for Kesler to fit him under their salary cap. The market price will come down. Vancouver is smart to ask for a top player and their trade partner is smartest to say, no. Vancouver may land a good haul but some GM looks foolish if he surrenders a top player. This should end your Kesler comments. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Glad to see that reason still rules at 1901 W. Madison. There is no way that I would include Saad in this deal or any other. Seebrook and Hammer need to be on this list too for us to have a chance for further cups.
Will miss Oduya but there is no way that we will be able to resign him next July with all of the other players that need to be resigned so we need to move him while we can get something back.
Bowman said a couple of years ago that the plan was to identify the core players and then bring along 2-3 new players each year to infuse new blood at lower cap hits. - kissthecup22
Seriously , me included are all having wet dreams over the Saad Kesler Kane line... probably not going to happen..... I do feel like the Hawks will somehow FA or trade acquire 2 centers both better than Zus and then we'll see how that works out. Bowman has No history . Zero . With making huge newsworthy deals. We should stop expecting it . Hoping for it. Its probably going to be some out of the blue 3rd line center from a shifty team that will all of a sudden explodenplaying with Kane and Saad. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Some one post the god Dam sign. . Or is thAt Ogis job ? - mrpaulish
Has any Canuck fan come in here who wasn't a troll? |
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grand-magus
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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Oduya is a bargain next season for a team needing an experienced, descent to good offensive puck mover. Ideal for second pair. Suggested as possible salary cap casualty for chg. - jhawk59
Hmmm.
Maybe the Sabres need him then.
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mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Has any Canuck fan come in here who wasn't a troll? - Elbows15
Allmbumhole trolls....... |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Hmmm.
Maybe the Sabres need him then.
- grand-magus
Oduya is the pizza man. No one wants him. Lets get real |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Is it a concern of Bowman how LA Kings in particular exposed chg weaknesses? JJ hints that a new #2 center will be in the lineup. Veteran or a better, highly offensive capable center might blow into the Windy City. You say no. Not a slam dunk guarantee no on this as has been the case as for legitimate #2 center acquisition for several years. - jhawk59
Didn't take a genius to figure out the Hawks weakness. Handzus. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Yep, Handzus will not be back (new #2 center). I think the Hawks would beat the Kings if that Saad/Kane/Shaw line were in place at the beginning of the series. - BearsnHawks
Maybe. But Kings might have risen to the challenge. The condition of Chg top five dmen had a lot to do with the ouster. So I cannot say I agree with you, just maybe.and then the NYR would have crushed the stumbling Blackhawks. Chg blue line corps would have been shredded. Lots of injuries, players gased on chg defense in last game. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Hmmm.
Maybe the Sabres need him then.
- grand-magus
Maybe they'll give us their #1 for Bickell |
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Yep, Handzus will not be back (new #2 center). I think the Hawks would beat the Kings if that Saad/Kane/Shaw line were in place at the beginning of the series. - BearsnHawks
Maybe...but probably not with LA winning 70% of the FO's. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Seriously , me included are all having wet dreams over the Saad Kesler Kane line... probably not going to happen..... I do feel like the Hawks will somehow FA or trade acquire 2 centers both better than Zus and then we'll see how that works out. Bowman has No history . Zero . With making huge newsworthy deals. We should stop expecting it . Hoping for it. Its probably going to be some out of the blue 3rd line center from a shifty team that will all of a sudden explodenplaying with Kane and Saad. - mrpaulish
That candidate most likely is Neilsen. Johnson might work, but he is smallish center.
Leave it to beaver....er ...Stan....with input from staff and dad...to not screw up. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Glad to see that reason still rules at 1901 W. Madison. There is no way that I would include Saad in this deal or any other. Seebrook and Hammer need to be on this list too for us to have a chance for further cups.
Will miss Oduya but there is no way that we will be able to resign him next July with all of the other players that need to be resigned so we need to move him while we can get something back.
Bowman said a couple of years ago that the plan was to identify the core players and then bring along 2-3 new players each year to infuse new blood at lower cap hits. - kissthecup22
If he trades Oduya, they are going to need someone to replace him IF they want to contend next season. There is no one on the roster currently who can replace his minutes or play the role he did.
Something to think about. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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That candidate most likely is Neilsen. Johnson might work, but he is smallish center.
Leave it to beaver....er ...Stan....with input from staff and dad...to not screw up. - jhawk59
So is Nielsen. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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That candidate most likely is Neilsen. Johnson might work, but he is smallish center.
Leave it to beaver....er ...Stan....with input from staff and dad...to not screw up. - jhawk59
I'm cool with Nielsen but the pure fact that he is a logical solution at the cost of Morin and a pick meansnsomeone else will be the solution |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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I'm cool with Nielsen but the pure fact that he is a logical solution at the cost of Morin and a pick meansnsomeone else will be the solution - mrpaulish
Dont know why its underlined |
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So is Nielsen. - Elbows15
Nielsen is 6-1. |
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kissthecup22
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Location: The Meeting Of The Waters, IL Joined: 07.16.2010
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If he trades Oduya, they are going to need someone to replace him IF they want to contend next season. There is no one on the roster currently who can replace his minutes or play the role he did.
Something to think about. - Elbows15
You're right, with him we have the best top 4 in the league and the part of me that wants to win it all next year says to keep him and then either let him walk for nothing or hope he resigns at a lower cap hit for a couple more years. Tough call to make. |
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tomcat24
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Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL Joined: 06.04.2012
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If he trades Oduya, they are going to need someone to replace him IF they want to contend next season. There is no one on the roster currently who can replace his minutes or play the role he did.
Something to think about. - Elbows15
Yeah that would be pretty tough.definitely don't want to trade Oduya. But. Maybe instead of just putting leddy there, maybe they just re-do the pairs? Of course that kills the chemistry of both your top 2 pairs, but keith-hammer and seabrook-leddy? Get someone solid for the 3rd pair and just play them somewhat evenly? I still would rather just trade leddy |
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BearsnHawks
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Location: TX Joined: 07.01.2012
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Maybe...but probably not with LA winning 70% of the FO's. - Hawks82
The first game vs the Kings we won because they were more tired than the Hawks (after just finishing their 2nd 7 game series). The next 3 games the Kings won because of our defense and not being able to score enough goals. When our 2nd line changed we were able to sore again. It took Quick playing very well in the last game for us to lose (from a scoring aspect). Not to mention, once Leddy was moved away from Roszival out defense started playing better too. |
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